Aircraft moves when RCv4 started, no display window

[mfy1989 1]

Hi there - I'm really hoping someone can help with this as I've tried everything to no avail. Basically I'm completely unable to use RCv4, because every time I start it, my aircraft is moved to a different location on the airfield, and there is no RC display window visible. In fact, there is no evidence that RC4 has actually started, other than that my aircraft has shifted several yards across the airfield.

 

This behaviour happens when using both addon and default airports, and with addon or default aircraft. I've tried running the rebuild scenery DB from radar contact, and this made no difference. I've tried reinstalling FSX completely, which took hours, and exactly the same thing occurred when I'd reinstalled it.

 

Clearly something is amiss somewhere, but I'm at a loss as to what to try next - if anyone has any ideas, I'd be really grateful. In desperation, I've tried looking at other ATC addons, but nothing really comes close to RC for me, so I'd really like to get it working again.

 

Just for info in case it's helpful:

 

OS: Win7 64 bit

Platform: FSX Gold Edition (FSX + Acceleration pack)

Running in DX10 preview mode

 

It may or may not be relevant but the flight plan I'm using is a .pln file created by PFPX.

 

Regards,

 

Tim

[Ray Proudfoot 8,979]

Tim,

 

Another user had a similar problem. It was related to the version of FSUIPC4 he was running.

 

Please confirm the version number you have in the modules folder.

[mfy1989 1]

Hi Ray, thanks for the response - I'm currently using Version 4.9.3.4, dated 9th May 2014 - this was the latest version available. Could this be the cause of the issue?

 

Really appreciate your help,

 

Regards,

 

Tim

[Joe L 62]

What do you use to flight plan?  I used to have the issue you describe, but, haven't seen it for some time.  

 

I did a google search "radar contact moves aircraft fsx" and it brought up some other threads in AVSIM.  One seemed to key on FSBuild, which I use to create my RC4 plans to this day (after creating in PFPX).  

[Ray Proudfoot 8,979]

Tim,

 

That version of FSUIPC4 is fine so we can eliminate that. I feed plans created by PFPX into FSX so that can be discounted.

 

Check the version of MakeRwys you have. The current one is 4.675. If yours differs try the latest and rebuild your database.

 

http://fsuipc.simflight.com/beta/MakeRwys.zip

 

Can you attach a plan that's causing you problems? One from a default airport would help. Could you create Helsinki-Heathrow? That's EFHK-EGLL. I'll see what happens when I load it.

[mfy1989 1]

Hi Ray,

 

Thanks again for the help, really good of you to take the time. As you suggested, I planned a HEL-LHR flight, and oddly enough RC4 has loaded up normally, without any problems! Very peculiar.

 

The FP I'm using for this flight is

 

EFHK DCT NUKSI N872 TEB N623 BEDLA N866 RAM N581 EVAKI N866 UPGAS UN866 TIPAN UM185 DIGSU UN866 BPK L10 LAM STAR EGLL

 

I don't have any addon scenery installed for HEL so this is a default airport at the mo.

 

An example of a flight where RC4 didn't work was:

 

EGLL DCT DVR UL9 KONAN UL607 KOK FERDI BUPAL REMBA SPI PELIX MATUG AMASI UM149 DETEV UL603 DINKU UQ305 BIBAG UL605 ESEGA VELOM ALMER GAMLI DIVAL UL606 SASAL UZ21 SOGMO BABIT UN739 LULIK NIVIS BEO OKLOP UM19 ETIDA M19 ADVER PENEV LETVA ADORU UL614 ENESU DCT LTBA

 

Although this flight was departing from an addon airport, I did also try starting a flight from Farnborough, for which I don't have any scenery installed, and the same problem persisted.

 

If you have any ideas I'd be grateful - thanks again Ray for your help,

 

Regards,

 

Tim

[Ray Proudfoot 8,979]

Tim,

 

Sorry, I meant the actual saved plan that you would load into FSX. That way I can emulate your actions. The EFHK-EGLL one will do.

 

Open it with Notepad and copy and paste into your reply please.

[mfy1989 1]

Oops, sorry about that - here is the contents of the .pln file:

 

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?>

<SimBase.Document Type="AceXML" version="1,0">
    <Descr>AceXML Document</Descr>
    <FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
        <Title>EFHK to EGLL</Title>
        <FPType>IFR</FPType>
        <RouteType>HighAlt</RouteType>
        <CruisingAlt>35000</CruisingAlt>
        <DepartureID>EFHK</DepartureID>
        <DepartureLLA>N60° 19' 02.00",E024° 57' 47.99",179</DepartureLLA>
        <DestinationID>EGLL</DestinationID>
        <DestinationLLA>N51° 28' 39.00",W000° 27' 41.00",83</DestinationLLA>
        <Descr>EFHK to EGLL created by PFPX - Professional Flight Planner X (http://www.flightsimsoft.com/pfpx)</Descr>
        <DeparturePosition>22R</DeparturePosition>
        <DepartureName>VANTAA</DepartureName>
        <DestinationName>HEATHROW</DestinationName>
        <AppVersion>
            <AppVersionMajor>10</AppVersionMajor>
            <AppVersionBuild>61472</AppVersionBuild>
        </AppVersion>
        <ATCWaypoint id="EFHK">
            <ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N60° 19' 02.00",E024° 57' 47.99",+000179.00</WorldPosition>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>EFHK</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="NUKSI">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N60° 18' 27.99",E024° 37' 28.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>NUKSI</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="RUNEN">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N60° 15' 26.99",E024° 04' 54.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N872</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>RUNEN</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="OXOLA">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N60° 06' 54.99",E022° 40' 40.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N872</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>OXOLA</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="OSMIN">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N60° 01' 20.99",E021° 51' 52.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N872</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>OSMIN</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="RUNGA">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N59° 44' 58.99",E019° 43' 27.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N872</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>RUNGA</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="XILAN">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N59° 39' 33.50",E019° 04' 33.79",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N872</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>XILAN</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="NAXEL">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N59° 34' 09.10",E018° 27' 17.89",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N872</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>NAXEL</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="TEB">
            <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N59° 31' 54.10",E018° 12' 11.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N872</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>TEB</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="ARS">
            <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N59° 35' 10.30",E016° 39' 01.39",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N623</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>ARS</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="BEDLA">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N59° 37' 44.19",E016° 13' 30.09",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N623</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>BEDLA</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="TABUT">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N59° 31' 09.00",E015° 55' 01.50",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N866</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>TABUT</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="DEPEX">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N59° 11' 30.99",E015° 01' 20.90",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N866</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>DEPEX</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="LAPSI">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N58° 55' 13.90",E014° 18' 19.70",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N866</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>LAPSI</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="MOXAM">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N58° 31' 52.89",E013° 18' 50.10",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N866</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>MOXAM</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="NEGIL">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N58° 15' 04.79",E012° 37' 31.19",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N866</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>NEGIL</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="INVOL">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N57° 39' 16.00",E011° 13' 16.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N866</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>INVOL</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="DETNA">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N57° 35' 15.40",E011° 04' 08.60",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N866</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>DETNA</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="AAL">
            <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N57° 06' 13.38",E009° 59' 44.08",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N866</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>AAL</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="KEMEG">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N56° 43' 14.99",E008° 52' 21.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N866</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>KEMEG</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="RAM">
            <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N56° 28' 42.13",E008° 11' 14.50",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N866</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>RAM</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="EVAKI">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N56° 14' 22.00",E007° 28' 51.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N581</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>EVAKI</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="AMRAM">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N55° 56' 37.00",E006° 38' 03.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N866</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>AMRAM</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="GOLUM">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N55° 27' 00.00",E005° 16' 59.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N866</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>GOLUM</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="UPGAS">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N55° 14' 40.99",E005° 00' 00.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>N866</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>UPGAS</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="TIPAN">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N54° 35' 53.99",E004° 23' 56.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN866</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>TIPAN</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="ADGEG">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N53° 13' 42.99",E002° 19' 05.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UM185</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>ADGEG</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="DIGSU">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N52° 01' 25.99",E000° 38' 04.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UM185</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>DIGSU</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="BPK">
            <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N51° 44' 59.05",W000° 06' 24.24",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN866</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>BPK</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="LAM">
            <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N51° 38' 45.69",E000° 09' 06.13",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>L10</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>LAM</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="EGLL">
            <ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N51° 28' 39.00",W000° 27' 41.00",+000083.00</WorldPosition>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>EGLL</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
    </FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
</SimBase.Document>
 

[Ray Proudfoot 8,979]

That plan loaded fine in my RC4. Can you locate the data folder where you have RC4 installed. Right-click a4.csv and choose Open with. Select Notepad.

 

Search for EFHK. You should have an entry like this...

 

EFHK, , 60.3204 , 24.9523 ,-6 , 179 , 11260

 

Can you paste your entry please.

[mfy1989 1]

Hi Ray, sorry just to check you'd understood my previous message - this flightplan worked fine with RC4 for me as well, to my surprise - would it be more useful to send you the .pln contents of one of the plans that didn't work?

 

If so, it follows after message.

 

As per your request, the entry for EFHK in the csv file is as follows:

 

EFHK, , 60.3204 , 24.9523 ,-6 , 179 , 11260

 

The entry for EGLL, which is the start point of the problem flight, reads:

 

EGLL, , 51.47116 ,-0.4611247 , 1.3 , 83 , 13160

 

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?>

<SimBase.Document Type="AceXML" version="1,0">
    <Descr>AceXML Document</Descr>
    <FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
        <Title>EGLL to LTBA</Title>
        <FPType>IFR</FPType>
        <RouteType>HighAlt</RouteType>
        <CruisingAlt>35000</CruisingAlt>
        <DepartureID>EGLL</DepartureID>
        <DepartureLLA>N51° 28' 39.00",W000° 27' 41.00",83</DepartureLLA>
        <DestinationID>LTBA</DestinationID>
        <DestinationLLA>N40° 58' 34.00",E028° 48' 51.00",163</DestinationLLA>
        <Descr>EGLL to LTBA created by PFPX - Professional Flight Planner X (http://www.flightsimsoft.com/pfpx)</Descr>
        <DeparturePosition>27R</DeparturePosition>
        <DepartureName>HEATHROW</DepartureName>
        <DestinationName>ATATURK</DestinationName>
        <AppVersion>
            <AppVersionMajor>10</AppVersionMajor>
            <AppVersionBuild>61472</AppVersionBuild>
        </AppVersion>
        <ATCWaypoint id="EGLL">
            <ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N51° 28' 39.00",W000° 27' 41.00",+000083.00</WorldPosition>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>EGLL</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="DVR">
            <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N51° 09' 45.43",E001° 21' 32.72",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>DVR</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="KONAN">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N51° 07' 50.99",E002° 00' 00.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL9</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>KONAN</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="KOK">
            <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N51° 05' 41.00",E002° 39' 06.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL607</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>KOK</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="FERDI">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N50° 54' 44.99",E003° 38' 13.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL607</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>FERDI</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="BUPAL">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N50° 43' 23.00",E004° 36' 03.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL607</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>BUPAL</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="REMBA">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N50° 39' 44.00",E004° 54' 51.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL607</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>REMBA</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="SPI">
            <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N50° 30' 52.99",E005° 37' 24.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL607</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>SPI</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="PELIX">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N50° 29' 48.99",E005° 45' 44.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL607</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>PELIX</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="MATUG">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N50° 25' 00.00",E006° 22' 10.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL607</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>MATUG</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="AMASI">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N50° 14' 24.99",E007° 36' 21.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL607</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>AMASI</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="BOMBI">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N50° 03' 24.00",E008° 48' 00.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UM149</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>BOMBI</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="DETEV">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N49° 49' 25.00",E009° 32' 31.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UM149</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>DETEV</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="DINKU">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N49° 14' 09.99",E010° 22' 59.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL603</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>DINKU</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="BIBAG">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N48° 23' 49.37",E012° 44' 59.21",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UQ305</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>BIBAG</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="ESEGA">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N48° 17' 47.00",E013° 10' 52.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL605</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>ESEGA</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="VELOM">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N48° 13' 15.95",E013° 29' 57.86",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL605</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>VELOM</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="ALMER">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N48° 01' 06.60",E014° 19' 55.85",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL605</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>ALMER</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="GAMLI">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N47° 54' 23.99",E014° 46' 43.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL605</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>GAMLI</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="DIVAL">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N47° 33' 17.67",E016° 07' 46.71",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL605</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>DIVAL</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="SASAL">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N47° 17' 05.38",E016° 28' 27.54",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL606</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>SASAL</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="SOGMO">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N46° 36' 37.00",E017° 41' 03.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UZ21</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>SOGMO</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="BABIT">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N45° 55' 53.90",E018° 55' 44.30",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UZ21</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>BABIT</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="LULIK">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N45° 31' 35.89",E019° 26' 39.40",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN739</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>LULIK</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="NIVIS">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N45° 15' 08.99",E019° 47' 14.10",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN739</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>NIVIS</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="BEO">
            <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N44° 48' 25.30",E020° 20' 05.80",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN739</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>BEO</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="OKLOP">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N44° 10' 59.49",E021° 19' 53.60",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN739</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>OKLOP</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="ETIDA">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N43° 41' 08.99",E022° 25' 04.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UM19</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>ETIDA</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="ADVER">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N43° 25' 19.99",E022° 59' 12.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>M19</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>ADVER</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="PENEV">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N43° 01' 53.99",E023° 48' 33.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>M19</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>PENEV</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="LETVA">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N42° 50' 59.99",E024° 11' 03.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>M19</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>LETVA</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="ADORU">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N41° 52' 17.99",E026° 34' 05.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>M19</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>ADORU</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="ENESU">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N41° 28' 31.45",E027° 19' 49.81",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL614</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>ENESU</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="LTBA">
            <ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N40° 58' 34.00",E028° 48' 51.00",+000163.00</WorldPosition>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>LTBA</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
    </FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
</SimBase.Document>
 

[Ray Proudfoot 8,979]

Tim,

 

My mistake. Your coordinates for EFHK are okay. What scenery do you have for EGLL? Mine is Aerosoft Mega Airports. If yours is UK2000 it may be better to use another 3rd party airport where you get a problem.

 

I do have UK2000 Gatwick, Manchester, Glasgow, Stansted. if you can create and supply a plan that causes the aircraft to move from one of those that would help.

[mfy1989 1]

No probs Ray - thank you for your help and patience with this. I do use UK2000 Heathrow, so I've tried a plan departing from Gatwick, which I also have UK2000 scenery for. Just verified that this plan suffers from the same problem. Before I paste the .pln contents, this is the entry for EGKK in the data csv:

 

EGKK         51.14822    -0.188976    -1.7    196    10952

 

And now the flight plan (EGKK-LEMH):
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?>

<SimBase.Document Type="AceXML" version="1,0">
    <Descr>AceXML Document</Descr>
    <FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
        <Title>EGKK to LEMH</Title>
        <FPType>IFR</FPType>
        <RouteType>HighAlt</RouteType>
        <CruisingAlt>37000</CruisingAlt>
        <DepartureID>EGKK</DepartureID>
        <DepartureLLA>N51° 08' 53.00",W000° 11' 25.00",203</DepartureLLA>
        <DestinationID>LEMH</DestinationID>
        <DestinationLLA>N39° 51' 44.99",E004° 13' 06.99",302</DestinationLLA>
        <Descr>EGKK to LEMH created by PFPX - Professional Flight Planner X (http://www.flightsimsoft.com/pfpx)</Descr>
        <DeparturePosition>26R</DeparturePosition>
        <DepartureName>GATWICK</DepartureName>
        <DestinationName>MENORCA</DestinationName>
        <AppVersion>
            <AppVersionMajor>10</AppVersionMajor>
            <AppVersionBuild>61472</AppVersionBuild>
        </AppVersion>
        <ATCWaypoint id="EGKK">
            <ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N51° 08' 53.00",W000° 11' 25.00",+000203.00</WorldPosition>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>EGKK</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="BOGNA">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N50° 42' 07.00",W000° 15' 06.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>BOGNA</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="BENBO">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N50° 27' 05.00",E000° 00' 37.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN615</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>BENBO</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="DRAKE">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N50° 12' 33.99",W000° 04' 33.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UY47</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>DRAKE</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="SITET">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N50° 05' 59.99",E000° 00' 00.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL151</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>SITET</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="ETRAT">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N49° 41' 00.00",E000° 09' 47.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN859</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>ETRAT</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="DVL">
            <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N49° 18' 38.69",E000° 18' 45.79",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN859</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>DVL</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="LGL">
            <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N48° 47' 26.20",E000° 31' 49.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN859</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>LGL</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="SORAP">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N48° 31' 19.99",E000° 38' 07.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN859</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>SORAP</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="BENAR">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N48° 15' 11.00",E000° 44' 40.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN859</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>BENAR</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="VANAD">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N47° 50' 14.00",E000° 54' 25.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN859</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>VANAD</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="AMB">
            <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N47° 25' 44.10",E001° 03' 51.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN859</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>AMB</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="BALAN">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N46° 30' 57.99",E001° 01' 59.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN859</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>BALAN</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="BEBIX">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N45° 56' 56.99",E001° 23' 58.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN859</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>BEBIX</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="VEGOB">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N45° 34' 46.00",E001° 28' 46.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN859</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>VEGOB</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="TUGLI">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N45° 22' 37.99",E001° 31' 28.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN859</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>TUGLI</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="TUSAK">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N44° 39' 02.99",E001° 40' 33.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN859</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>TUSAK</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="NARAK">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N44° 17' 42.99",E001° 44' 56.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN859</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>NARAK</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="GAI">
            <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N43° 57' 14.60",E001° 49' 27.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN859</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>GAI</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="PPG">
            <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N42° 45' 01.70",E002° 52' 01.70",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UP84</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>PPG</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="KANIG">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N42° 28' 49.09",E002° 58' 59.40",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN855</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>KANIG</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="BGR">
            <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N41° 56' 51.70",E003° 12' 31.90",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UN855</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>BGR</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="DALIN">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N41° 44' 01.60",E003° 21' 28.40",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL16</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>DALIN</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="AGENA">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N41° 32' 41.30",E003° 29' 18.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL16</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>AGENA</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="VERSO">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N41° 09' 10.70",E003° 45' 25.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL16</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>VERSO</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="TOSNU">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N41° 00' 55.00",E003° 48' 24.80",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL16</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>TOSNU</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="SARGO">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N40° 30' 00.00",E003° 59' 30.69",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
        <ATCAirway>UL16</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>SARGO</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="LEMH">
            <ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N39° 51' 44.99",E004° 13' 06.99",+000302.00</WorldPosition>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>LEMH</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
    </FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
</SimBase.Document>
 

[Ray Proudfoot 8,979]

Thanks Tim. I'll try this later tonight or tomorrow and get back to you.

[mfy1989 1]

Cheers Ray, I'm in Farnborough all day tomorrow so may not respond straight away but will as soon as I can. Thank you again for your time,

 

Kind regards,

 

Tim

[norman s 15]

Hi,

 

I have both the UK2000 versions of EGLL and EGKK and these are my entries.

EGKK, , 51.14875 ,-0.1924818 , 3 , 196 , 10352

 

EGLL, , 51.47122 ,-0.4608005 , 3 , 83 , 12786