Now, I`m currently doing ZSPD-EDDM with Air China -300ER, so far six hours, so far so good. Will let you know, whether I successfully completed the flight...

 

Update from me - the aforementioned flight was successfully completed - 11 hours, with ORBX Global, Vector and new LC.

Strange...

hi ,

 

i never had oom before until today ,

 

i did a fligth from EHAM to KIAH  and was cruising over the ocean .I was in the kitchen making a sandwich when suddenly i heared bling bling ...

Went to the pc and it was the oom warning .

it was touching 3.8GB... cruising at 34000 feet  between Iceland and Greenland ...The only airports active in the scenery library were EHAM and KIAH , i m on DX10...never ever had a problem with the 777 before sp1 only on approach to CYVR with high cloud setting in REX but when i reduced the clouds to 512 everything was fine until today ...

The most strange about this is yesterday i completed a flight OMDB KIAH OMDB in one time , without shutting down fsx or the computer .

 

 

1 hour ago after the oom i restarted my pc and programmed the EHAM KIAH flight again with the same route the same dep runway etc...

 

Just before taking of runway 36L at Eham my vas was 2.8gb ,  after Climbing out at 5000 feet it reduced to 2.3Gb

At time of writing i am about half an hour into flight at 40 miles before GOW at 34000 feet with nasty weather and the vas is 2.6 GB, private bytes (???? don't know what this is )1.9 and working set (???) 2.0

 

so why and when did my vas increasde in the first flight , i didn't changed the setings and was just as now cruising at 34000 feet  only this time just before GOW and the first flight between Iceland and Greenland but hut cruise over the atlantic..

 

Yesterday a flight from KLAX to YBBN and went to sleep , when i woke up only a message ..oom !!!!

 

I have made several long flights with the 777 sp1 and 777-300  and never ever had a vas problem .

The only thing i changed is that i downloaded and reinstalled the full version  from the pmdg webstore while my previous flights were made using the 777RTM and a manual update to SP1 

 

Best regards ,

 

Gérard

Gerard,

 

Funny, it is EHAM to KIAH that finally caused me to make my OP.  I have only had real problems in the last 5-6 weeks (pre SP1).  The VAS is so incredibly high.  I tried to be detailed in my OP so that any aspect of my setup might be spotted.

 

I was running the Orbx Global/Vector fairly well before too.

 

I am vexed.

Disable any payware airports or high detailed airports that are not in use. I used to VAS out and adopted this technique. No more issues

 

For a long flight I will likely have my ALTN's at destination and a minimal number enroute.

Try sceneryconfigeditor v1.1.2. Allows you to make all of these changes quickly rather than launching fsx or manually changing the cfg file.

 

My 2 cents but solved my VAS problems.

 

Rodney Aylmore.

Hi Rodney,

 

I appreciate your input, but I am indeed using scenery config editor now.  I think some recent addon changed something internal to FSX and it is not just memory leaking.  I think it is in my autogen setup.  I can't deal with it now as I am about to travel for a bit, so I'll have to try again in late Aug.

 

Thank you for your reply.

Hi Jeff ,

 

my third flight EHAM KIAH in a row and again oom , second flight i had to divert to BGSF because my VAS was so high that i nerver was going to reach the east coast so decided to divert , there is nothing more frustrating than a flight wich ends in oom.

I m going to reinstall windows 7 and fsx and only instal the 777 without other addons .

 

Like i said i never had any problems with VAS , 3 4 days  before i completed a  nonstop flight  with the 777-300 SP! OMDB KIAH OMDB  , did allready LTBA RJAA  and NZAA KLAX without restarting fsx or the pc in KIAH and without any problems .

When i think about it the problems did start after i updatet the pmdg operation center so maybe this is something to think of. , on the other hand i can't imagine because when fsx is running i don't think the operation center is running in the background one or the other way .

What i do notice is about a year ago when the 777 came out my settings were to high and on approachto CYVR  i was running out of memory causing my pc to automatically shut down .

The last times when i ran out of memory i only get the ding dong warning and a message on the screen when fsx is still running  telling me that fsx quits but it doesn't shuts down automatically  . i have to force fsx to stop  but can't do it using the normal way , by pushing the red cross in the corner of the screen . when i shut down fsx in that way the fsx welcome screen appears in the lower right corner and freezes ....and i have to go into  CTR ALT DELETE for quiting fsx , i never ever had that before

 

i m going to reinstall windows and fsx and try again .

 

 

Best regards ,

 

 

Gérard 

Hi Jeff,

 

if you still follow this topic i can tell you that after a lot of flights myVAS seems to be ok again , just completed YSSY OMDB  real time..YSSY was default fsx scenery and OMDB was flytampa .

My settings were all maxed out except autogen was normal and water was mid 2 .Took off YSSY and VA was 2.3, and decreased after take oft to 2.1 , the whole flight VAS never increased until landing , at that point VAS increased to 2.3 ...

 

This is my 6 flight in a row wich i completed succesfully with VAS never exceeding 2.4. i mainly fly from addon airports because i like the candy as well .

 

I must say that after my first succesful flight i istalled FTX global and my VAS in the 777-300ER was rising immediately so i think in my case that that might be something to look further into ,and i know i also had FTX global installed before my problems started .

 

After advise from ROB i installed Windows on a fresh formatted drive and made a image file just in case , installed fsx on a seperate drive  and updated it to SP2 .

 

Installed flightbeam KIAD and FLY TAMPA LOWW , installed only a fresh downloaded  777-200  file with included SP1 from the pmdg site  and completed KIAD LOWW fot the first time in days   and wrote time the different VAS usage at different stages of the flight and landed LOWW with VAS usage of 2.4 so 1.6 free .

Over the Atlantic my VAS was maxing out at 2.25 and stayed until the TOD

 

I did use the build in weather engine from fsx with clouds settings broken at 1500 and overcast at 5000 feet wind 292 at 7 , just for trying te recreate the same flight ROB has done and and to compare my VAS usage with the same flight he did .

 

Next flight was exactly the same flight , but i installed ASN  and used real weather  to see if it made a difference , it didn't .

 

Next flight i switched to DX10 and noticed my vas decreased with .2 and maxed out at 2.05 in flight and 2.2 landing at fly tampa LOWW .

 

Next flight , again the same flight but installed with the 777-300ER and flew the same flight with the 777-300ER and noticed my VAS was about .1 higher than it was with the 777-200

 

Every flight i m installing something more into FSX so i can see when my VAS is going to increase .

 

Like you i too had FTG global installed but i m also  a heavy iron flyer  and sure it is a nice view if you are approaching CYVR and you have FTX PNW and FTX global installed but at the same time it is so frustrating that at the end after enjoying the views you get ..ding ding ding and the OOM .

I enjoyed the FTX view also at take of and landing but really noticed them at 38000 feet so for me if i have to make the choice installing FTX GLOBAL  and have the chance for OOM or not installing them and have a nice flight  i choose the last one .

 

I do use addon airports to have some candy in FSX and i like these views more than the FTX global if i have to choose between them  , the 777 is a plane wich uses a lot of VAS but it seems controllable if you know what you are doing with yor FSX settings  , i think we all  ( including me )  want to throw in much more everytime  into FSX ,  just for the looks  , we all get a better computer and thinking FSX can handle it better and sure the frames are 30 rock stable , so with a better pc the frams are going up   but if we are installing to much  another problem  comes into play wich in this case is  VAS , even if we have the best computer system VAS is something we never think of but we are starting to think of if we hear the ding ding sound ..

 

For me i can overclock my system to 5.0 rockstable for FSX but always leave it at a comfortable 4.7 and since the last time i installed everything it is still at defaut speed 3.9 which give me at this time 30 frames rock stable at landing and taxing at OMDB LOWW KIAD KIAH and so on but i notices also that i don't even have a stuttering and a fsx pauze or freeze anymore ...even not when i m taxing or landing at high demanding airports .

 

Maybe you should try it this way too and install evertime somthing more into FSX and notice your VAS usage  and eventually if your VAS is under control  installing FTX global  because i think ( at this moment ) this is a big VAS user , ( in my case ).

 

This is the way i m doing it now and my VAS is never exceeding 2.4 even not at fly tampa's OMDB with settings in FSX maxed out , DX10 and for settings in nvidia inspector i use the manual included in the DX10 fixer as an example because i don't know either what all the settings are meaning so maybe i can gain some performance from that too if my settings are ok , and maybe if i m happy with my FSX than the last part i m installing FTX global again ,

 

Like i said i did use FTX GLOBAL before my problames began but there's nothing more frustrating if you can't complete a flight and i m tuning my FSX now for the last week and by doing it this was it shows me when my VAS is increasing to much and if it does  i have the choice  of installing or uninstalling the last program wich gives me the problems ,

 

Just completed YSSY OMDB  ,  Emirates 415 ,777-300ER ,way over 1315 hours ..no problems VAS max at 2.4 and this was while taxing at fly tampa s OMDB

 

Good luck ,

 

Gérard

Fixer is off the market for

 

Why is that?

Why is that?

 

Not sure why. If you look in the DX10 Fixer forum you will see that Steve posted that ti is off the market, I do not know if there was a reason given.

 

Jordan. 

 

 

eventually if your VAS is under control installing FTX global because i think ( at this moment ) this is a big VAS user , ( in my case ).

 

Please remember that the texture sheets used in FTX Global are more heavily annotated with autogen than the default FSX textures. So, say you are VAS stable without FTXG installed, at an autogen density setting of "dense", if you then install FTXG you will see a VAS hit at the same autogen density setting of "dense". Trick is to drop the autogen setting down a notch, say from "dense" to "normal", and the VAS hit will not be as severe, neither will you miss a lot of eye-candy. If you are really loading the system with heavy add-on airports you may even have to drop from "normal"  (default FSX land textures) to "sparse" autogen if using FTXG.

 

I am able to fly at autogen settings of "dense" around South Africa with FTXG and complex addon landclass vectors, with VAS-heavy NMG-Trading add-on airports, and keep VAS at 2.5GB, rising to just under 3GB on approach. Flying YMML (ORBX addon) to VTSB (TIC add-on and VAS heavy), I am still OK (3.1Gb used at arrival gate).

 

I have knocked my cloud textures down to 512 as well, and limit ASN to 3 layers of cloud.

 

I am running 50% WOAI airline traffic. I think we also need to bear in mind that 50% AI traffic over Africa / Asia / Australia <> 50% AI traffic over Europe / North America. :o

 

Rob

Thanks for replies.  Sucks that I can't get DX10 fixer.  I really did suspect FTX Global and Vector as culprits, but I was using those mostly fine prior to July 1.  In any case, I still won't be near my sim for several weeks, so I just read these topics.

 

Does anyone think nVidia Inspector might cause it too?

 

In any case, I'll continue to dial things down.  I meant to do some imaging in my last reinstall (over 4th July weekend), but didn't.

 

I do use somethings that add to load:

Pilots Terrain Product

FTX Global

FTX Vector

ASN

tons of add-on airports.

 

I will re-seek a combo that allows me to fly my beloved 777F again.  

 

Question on re-download of a 777 with SP1, do I need to purchase extended download or something to get that?

 

Thanks again for everything,

 

Jeff

Hi jeff ,

 

i think for redownload the 77 you need to buy the extended download , .

 

At this moment my VAS is stable and on approach to FS DREAMTAEM KDTW is max 2.6 after a 12 hour flight from RKSI ...

 

Everything is installed at this moment except for FTX GLOBAL wich i want to install in just a few hours ..

 

Rob , GEOLPILOT and others , do you think dat with my VAS at this moment , MAX 2.8 at FLY TAMPA s OMDB , gives enough room for installing FTX GLOBAL and -or with  FTX VECTOR without getting OOM problems again .

 

Thanks for the help ,

 

Gérard 

I do not have anything from FTX.

 

I use UTX and GEX.

And they add a lot of VAS as well.

So if FTX is similar in VAS usage then you will be cutting it close I think.

 

If you are willing to completely shut down AI if necessary, then you would have even more room to play with....like 200MB or so (and a lot of FPS extra too).

Thanks Rob ,

 

then i stay away from reinstalling FTX global again ,

 

 

Gérard

I think the issue is the PMDG 777.  I have yet to make a successful flight between two payware airports without OOM.  Yesterday flew EGLL to LLBG.  My remaining VAS was 1300 leaving EGLL and over the 5 hour flight steadily dropped until on approach I hit the OOM.  I rebooted and started from a flight I saved when I was on approach and in the danger zone.  Remaining VAS after restart was 1600.  Something is not quite right with this bird and for now I think the only option is to save your flight somewhere in the cruise and restart.

 

I should point out that I have DX10 Fixer installed, I have done all of the suggested optimizations and I have Scenery manager to turn off all unused sceneries.

 

 

GEOLPILOT and others , do you think dat with my VAS at this moment , MAX 2.8 at FLY TAMPA s OMDB , gives enough room for installing FTX GLOBAL and -or with FTX VECTOR without getting OOM problems again .

 

I really would not give up on FTX Global. If you drop autogen one notch as I suggested in my previous post you should be OK. If not you can always turn it off for PMDG 777 flights via FTX Central, and still have it installed to turn for your other simming.

 

I cannot comment on FTX VECTOR as I do not have that product yet (thinking of buying it for testing). There is a complex interaction between vector landclass, textures loaded, and hence autogen volumes. Sometimes it can help (for example reducing tree counts in areas depicted in FSX-default as forested, but with more accurate, updated landclass are now deforested grasslands). Sometimes it can increase VAS load, as when larger urban areas now replace out-dated, default FSX un-urbanised areas.

 

Where you fly to, from and around/over has an incredible affect on this whole VAS issue, in part because of the landclass - texture - autogen interplay.

 

Rob

Hi Mark ,

 

i had the same issues as you  describe AFTER the first week  , the first week i didn't had any problems  , completed flight OMDB KIAH OMDB without restarting FSX , no problems whatsoever until out of the blue i had a OOM  and the problems began , I don't know how it could be but i couldn't even completed a flight from EHAM to KIAH , with only fsx fresh installed , WIndows reinstalled settings minimum ( to the LEFT in FSX ) and only the 777with SP1 installed , departed EHAM with 1.6 VAS to spare  but after 4 hours i got a OOM , if you know that 5 minutes after departing EHAM the only thing you see is the northsea and the Atlantic en no other scenery than it is really strange , , The strange thing about is when i used the Original 777 file without the SP1 i didn't had any problems .

 

With  help from Rob 777 simmer i did the same flight he had done , ( after reinstalling windows and fsx again )  KIAD LOWW , same weather inside fsx  and , compared my VAS with the VAS he had seeing and i didn't had any trouble since  , and allready completed long haul flights , YSSY to fly tampa OMDB more than 14 hours without any problems , settings all maxed out and MAX VAS at landing and taxiing in spot view was 2.7-2.8 ..a few hours agp completed RKSI FSD KDFW  , VAS MAX  2.6 and frames 30 rock stable with my processor not even overclocked , default speed 3.5 I7 3770K , with GTX680 video card,,

 

Maybe you should try this flight too with the settings and examples from Robso you can compare them  , it worked for me .

 

Gérard  ...

Hi GEOLPILOT ROB ,

 

i thought that you can't turn down FTX global in FTX central , if you own other regions you can swith it to hybrid mode or the full region if you stay in that region but completely turning of and load the default FSX  textures is  not possible  ( i thought )  , i do had FTX  before problems with OOM began , and at that time didn't had troubles with VAS , even when using the 777-300 until about 1 week after 773 release , suddenly problems began and at dthat time i allready made long hauls without problems , and i must say textures are very nice but if i get prblems when running global than for me it is not wort it .

 

Gérard

 

 

i thought that you can't turn down FTX global in FTX central

 

Hi Gerard

 

I stand corrected. Just had a look at FTX central, and you are quite right, you cannot simply turn it off. One would have to take all the back-up textures from the directory you saved them to when doing the first FTXG install, and overwrite the ORBX textures again, or do a complete uninstall. All a bother, if you just want to fly safely without OOM / upsetting a working installation.

 

Thanks for putting me right on this.

 

Rob