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Since I installed sp1b, when I disconnect the AP, I can't get the horn wailer to shut off.  I have to land and quit FSX.  Any ideas?

I went thru the updated manual, nothingthere.

 

Gnacino

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Are you following the instructions on page 0.00.37 of the PMDG 777 Introduction and using the button on the control wheel and pausing about 2 seconds between first and second press?

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It may be that he does follow the correct procedure and it worked before SP1b but now it doesn't.

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That's correct. was working before, pressing  my AP button on my yoke twice.  After the sp1b it doesn't.  However, if I use the keyboard, (Z), it shuts it off.  My yoke turns off the AP with one push, but the second doesn't do anything.  It's a CH yoke and I will check it further.

 

Gnacino

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Have you set the fmc option  auto pilot disconnect?  cant remember  the correct option but its in your option

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There are a few options in the FMC, like single click, double click and then the option for wailer/siren.

 

I am not sure if this is still the case in SP1b but maybe you have to wait a second after the first click (if you have setup for double click)

So click to disengage AP....wait 1 sec.....click to silence the wailer.

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That's correct. was working before, pressing  my AP button on my yoke twice.  After the sp1b it doesn't.  However, if I use the keyboard, (Z), it shuts it off.  My yoke turns off the AP with one push, but the second doesn't do anything.  It's a CH yoke and I will check it further.

 

Gnacino

FMC/CDU > MENU > PMDG SETUP > AIRCRAFT > EQUIPMENT > Page 10 /13 > Resettable Siren > YES !

 

But posted by one of our veteran member 

 

That's actually not at all the right answer, actually...

 

The correct answer is to hit the autopilot disconnect a second time.  This is the correct response regardless of the resettable siren option.

 

And I know this is going to come off as overly harsh, but this is precisely the reason I tell people to always refer to the manuals.  The manuals will always have the proper procedures.  People here might not.  Situations here describe exactly why: someone who doesn't have a firm grasp on the correct answer, or proper procedures, attempts to be helpful.  The incorrect answer is then seen as "correct" and the person receiving that answer now goes and tells someone else.  Rinse, repeat: perpetuation of bad info.

 

Again, I know that'll come off as harsh, but this is why there's no harm in referring people to the manuals.  Further, this is why people should read them (themselves) in general.  The answer wouldn't have even asked, so the incorrect answer would not have been given.

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Please - both of you - go read the intro manual.

 

Edit  just realised  this is  a quote from Kyles previous post on this subject :P

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Both?

just edited. copied best answer from one of the member to help other  spreading the message. 

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And I know this is going to come off as overly harsh, but this is precisely the reason I tell people to always refer to the manuals.  The manuals will always have the proper procedures.  People here might not.  Situations here describe exactly why: someone who doesn't have a firm grasp on the correct answer, or proper procedures, attempts to be helpful.  The incorrect answer is then seen as "correct" and the person receiving that answer now goes and tells someone else.  Rinse, repeat: perpetuation of bad info.

 

Again, I know that'll come off as harsh, but this is why there's no harm in referring people to the manuals.  Further, this is why people should read them (themselves) in general.  The answer wouldn't have even asked, so the incorrect answer would not have been given.

I agree......some questions are such obvious signs of not having read anything that you're like "duh..."........but most questions around would have required some thourough reading of them what.......1000+ pages of the 777 manuals, and not everybody has that time. Besides, then what would we talk about if everybody knew everything, lol....?

 

If the answere to allmost every question regarding the PMDG777 operation is going to be:" look it up in the manual!" then this forum would get quite boring real quick.

 

Hey, how does the AP work?......read the OMB

Hey, I dont understand Lnav or Vnav?.....read the OMB

Hey, I cant land my 777......read the FCTM

Hey I have VAS problems........read the intro guide

Hey I dont know the difference between Cat I and Cat II.......Google it.

etc etc

 

Ofcourse if the wrong answere is given and marked as the best answere then that screws things up a bit. But just like today.....someone will come around and correct things usually.

 

What bothers me more is when we get into more general FSX and Performance related problems. (stutters, best hardware, .cfg tweaks, etc). Here the wrong answere can very often NOT be looked up in some official document and I think it would help if we had some kind of way to identify where the answere comes from.

As in; hardware pro specialist, software pro specialist, just an experienced FSX user, experienced user with some understanding of programming, a newbee, etc.

But I know this will never happen.

 

So in the end all I can advice is.......make a backup before you try some elses fix!

 

(and just for the record, before I get into trouble for pretending to be something I am not again......I am not a PC or Software or FSX specialist! Experienced user at best).

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Thanks all for the feedback.  I solved the problem.  I unplugged my CH yoke and replugged it into the USB and that seemed to fix the issue.  Apparently something must have been going on with the yoke.  I've had it now for over ten years and I guess I'm looking for a reason to buy Goflights' yoke.

 

Gnacino

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If the answere to allmost every question regarding the PMDG777 operation is going to be:" look it up in the manual!" then this forum would get quite boring real quick.

 

Eh...I've seen this defense time and time again, and I can't say I agree.  If you look at things like Yahoo Answers versus actual dedicated message boards, you'll see a very different picture.

 

Yahoo Answers is somewhat like grade school.  People ask some pretty simple questions, and everyone who is on there is pretty much tasked with answering a bunch of low-level, simple stuff, with the occasional tough and interesting question/answer.

 

A Dedicated Message Board is essentially (often) university and higher.  People already know 2 + 2 = 4 because they spent some time learning, so they don't need to bombard the forum with "what does 2 + 2 equal?!?"  This frees everyone up to discuss more high level stuff.  Instead of "I can't get the parking brake to come off," we could be talking about the finer points of RNAV implementations, or why ATC does X/Y/Z.  Sure, we do some of that now, but it could be better if people could come in here with a little more information under their belt.

 

Is there something wrong with asking simple questions?  I'd argue no.

Is it wrong to get upset about the same question being asked so many times when it's clearly been discussed (and therefore, the information is available)?  I'd argue no.

 

So who's right?  Well, nobody is.  We're all kinda losing here.  It could be a lot better, though, if people spent just a few minutes investing in themselves, which is an investment in the community.

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