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Hello, this is my first support post regarding the 737NGX since I have had it since Nov of 2013, Thus far, I have had zero issues with the model and no Out Of Memory Errors until after I installed SP1D. I am at a loss as to what is going on but I can say that the issue is occuring at the end of flights between KCLT to KMIA (as well as the same trip back to KCLT) and that there is both an audible and visual warning from windows when the OOM occurs. My KCLT scenery is freeware but my KMIA/Miami area is Miami City 2012 X. Drzewiecki Design. Knowing that the latter scenery is considerably large and takes a good bit of VAS, I have tested the NGX, MD-11, and Aerosoft A319 on the same and similar distance routes and and around Miami with no OOM issues. This issue so far as I can tell is specific to the NGX post SP1D

 

Just to clarify, my LOD_Radius and Texture Max Load settings are totally stock, no modifications.

 

My systems specs are as follows:

 

Intel i7-3770 @ 3.40Ghz

16gb RAM

W7-64

GPU - Radeon HD7770 2gb

 

Again, others may not be experiencing what I am but I am just curious if anyone might be seeing this with the current update? BTW, everything works systems wise and runs smoother than the previous version.

 

Regards,

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Lower settings nothing to do with the update.

 

Also you will have a better response if you post it on the CTD forum

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Hi!

 

Its not just you. I'm noticing crazy VAS usage now. OOMed on a short trip from Bergen X to Gardemoen X, a trip taking 45 min. Tried to do the same in the PMDG 777 and landed with 400MB left. I'm also using the Steam Edition and it handles VAS much better for me. After departure, VAS usually drops for about 200-300 MB in either the PMDG777 or Aerosoft Airbus. The NGX (SP1D) eats it all up. I don't know why...

 

But I have noticed that when I press the FS2Crew panel, VAS usage jumps about 300 MB. How is this even possible? I don't want to jump to conclusions, but something is eating up the virtual adress space. Maybe the weather radar? When I use it with ASN, it takes like 5 min before it shuts down with an error.

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Jeeso! Well thats why i haven't installed SPD1 i'm letting the dust settle. Plus i have the DVD lol

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FS2Crew adds nearly 200 MB to the VAS footprint, but you probably had used FS2Crew already with SP1c, hadn't you?

 

So the question is, how has the NGX VAS usage changed from SP1c to SP1d, other things being equal?

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SP1d has the terrain sweep and weather radar (WX radar is a small image file being loaded up that is continually updated and consumes VAS).  The update probably notchs it up slightly enough to push you over the edge compared to the "c" version. 

 

You might have been on the precipice with the "c" version and the extras in the "d" version pushed you over.

 

Only solution is to lower the settings.

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I use FSUIPC to monitor VAS so i'll keep an eye on that once i install the update. But i'll hold off.

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SP1d has the terrain sweep and weather radar (WX radar is a small image file being loaded up that is continually updated and consumes VAS).  The update probably notchs it up slightly enough to push you over the edge compared to the "c" version. 

 

You might have been on the precipice with the "c" version and the extras in the "d" version pushed you over.

 

Only solution is to lower the settings.

 

That sounds about right! But - When I use the WX radar in the PMDG 777, VAS usage is steady and predictable.

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That sounds about right! But - When I use the WX radar in the PMDG 777, VAS usage is steady and predictable.

 

The image is small...in comparison to the whole enchilada!!  But I suspect the OP has his settings a "tick" too high.

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Well, I'm now 100 % certain that VAS is leaking somewhere with this update! 

 

Just "completed" a flight I've probably done like 50 times with the standard NGX in boxed FSX edition, which is from Gardemoen X (ENGM) to Arlanda X (ESSA). I NEVER had VAS problems on this short trip but today the game crashed when taxiing to gate. So increadibly frustrating to have waited so long for the FSX:SE update just to get lots of OOMs already. 

 

I had 1100 MB VAS left when starting my approach, then I activated the WX radar. From there, it all went downhill. Something is definitely not right, at least on my rig. Maybe I have to try a fresh install...

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Thanks for the replies, now I feel a bit better in thinking there's an issue. Anyhow, FYI, I did lower my scenery settings as A cross-check and it seemed to help a little but the OOM still occurred on final approach but the key difference between the different scenery level settings was that with the higher settings I would suffer OOM well before the final approach but with the settings turned down, I could actually land and the OOM would CTD the sim as I began to taxi. 

 

Driver170 & Admins, my mistake/appologies posting this issue here as I wasn't aware there was a separate CTD forum section. Admins, if possible would you move/merge this post to the appropriate area?

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Glad i ain't installed the update! Have you sent a ticket?

 

No. I figured more people should report issues before they take me seriously. 

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I too would like to report this issue.

 

Flew from DTTJ (Aerosoft) to LSGG (FS DreamTeam) and back and FSUIPC's VAS alarm was going when on approach back at DTTJ.

 

And I'm running DX10!!!!!! First time I've heard that alarm since going DX10.

 

So there must be a problem with SP1D.

 

Martin. 

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Driver170, on 08 Mar 2015 - 8:47 PM, said:

Glad i ain't installed the update! Have you sent a ticket?

 

No. I figured more people should report issues before they take me seriously.

 

Yeh you need more cases i suppose eh

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Over 50 hrs of testing on sp1d and I never encountered an OOM situation.

 

I really think you have an issue with your setup.  Perhaps a scenery is really gobbling up your VAS, i would look there first.  Try turning a few things off and watch your load at that time.  If your using WX generation and texture lower the resolution and compression.

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That is very interesting.

 

1-Did you fly with PMDG 777 during your 50  hours testing?

 

2-What  was your settings?

 

Thanks

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I very, very seriously have concerns about the use of "must be" when asserting that there are issues with SP1d. First, DX10 isn't a supported use. Second, I highly doubt there's any semblance of scientific method being used here.

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That is very interesting.

 

1-Did you fly with PMDG 777 during your 50  hours testing?

 

2-What  was your settings?

 

Thanks

 

He's an NGX Beta Team Member, so I'm sure he has many hours with the NGX in testing.

 

Since you asked about the 777, I have nearly 175 hours in the 777 SP1d on FSX-SE...but VAS is managed much better in FSX-SE.

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To be clear, prior to installing SP1D, I had flown the NGX on a good number of long routes with scenery settings almost maxed out  (and most of those routes included HD type scenery) and not a single OOM has ever occurred. I'm going to perform some more testing with different distances and scenery density level settings and see if there are any correlations/repeat OOM issues and report back.

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See what you can do to isolate it, controlling variables where you can; disabling other add ons. (Similar to what a group of us are doing in the most recent 777 VAS thread.)

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Okay, the issue persists regardless of lowering the scenery settings as well as disabling/removing some scenery.  Luckily I kept my original installer and am going to roll back to that one and continue running a series of tests an keep notes while trying to isolate the issue based on what's installed or not. Will report back in a day or two.

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I very, very seriously have concerns about the use of "must be" when asserting that there are issues with SP1d. First, DX10 isn't a supported use. Second, I highly doubt there's any semblance of scientific method being used here.

 

 

Well no of course, its a game, but monitoring VAS usage and comparing it to previously known values is as far as we can get. And, A VAS leakage doesn't necessarily occur for everyone, which is very strange I give you that. But it would be nice if we were to be believed at least. Somethings wrong when I can complete a flight from EGLL-ENGM with the PMDG777 with both FTX Norway and England installed but not ESSA-ENGM with the NGX. 

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He's an NGX Beta Team Member, so I'm sure he has many hours with the NGX in testing.

 

Since you asked about the 777, I have nearly 175 hours in the 777 SP1d on FSX-SE...but VAS is managed much better in FSX-SE.

 

Second that! Was testing this last night... 

 

Quite a significant improvement in VAS management in FSX:SE ... 

 

Completed a flight from UK2000 EGKK to FlyTampa Copenhagen... VAS usage was around 2.1 GB at takeoff, 1.2 GB during cruise, and 2.2-2.4 GB when landing in Copenhagen (has never seen VAS usage drop like that) ... was using PMDG 737NGX SP1D ... 

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(has never seen VAS usage drop like that)

 

lol!  It is crazy to see what FSX-SE does with VAS compared to what we're used to with FSX-MS, but that VAS drop is crazy! 

 

I can usually shed between 400MB-900MB in a flight using the 777 and have completed every flight I've had.  I've seen the same with the NGX SP1d in my limited flying with it so far.

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