June 25, 201510 yr Hi chaps, The 777 and 737 came with outstanding authentic documentation but I'm just wondering if it would be impossible to include an MEL with the new jumbo, or whether that would be an unreasonable request. I'm getting into service based failures now but notice that the FAA lists available online aren't terribly complete and it would be great to have one that covers EICAS status messages and all the various SB items that can crop up. A
June 25, 201510 yr Commercial Member The 777 and 737 came with outstanding authentic documentation but I'm just wondering if it would be impossible to include an MEL with the new jumbo, or whether that would be an unreasonable request. The 744 documentation shouldn't be too entirely different from the 777 and 737. As far as the MEL goes, that's an operator document. You create one as an operator and get it approved. That being said, apart from the FAA base, there's no globally applicable MEL that we could give to you. B744 MMEL (FAA): http://fsims.faa.gov/wdocs/mmel/b-747-400_r29.htm MEL Approval Process: http://fsims.faa.gov/PICDetail.aspx?docId=D2EBA8E1812972BC8525734F00766629 Kyle Rodgers
June 25, 201510 yr Author Thanks Kyle I'm quite surprised that Boeing don't make their own base MEL - I could have sworn that Airbus do for their aircraft. It sounds pathetic but I only say this because I got a STANDBY INVERTER status message on the EICAS in the 77W recently but couldn't find it in the FAA base document and thought 'If PMDG had made this doc, everything would be in it!' A
June 25, 201510 yr Hi guys, Boeing does have a MMEL which is the Master MEL which is approved from the FAA or in my case the german Authority ( LBA ).The Operator can create, based on this MMEL, his own but It can't be less strict on the applicable systems for example.Then it will be approved by the authorities. I worked for different airlines now and the MEL's are quite different.... Greetings Sven Sven Wendel
June 26, 201510 yr Pretty much any regulatory authority's website will have MMEL's for a barrage of aircraft types: Transport Canada : http://wwwapps2.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/2/MEL-LEM/m_e_l_s.aspx?lang=eng FAA: http://fsims.faa.gov/PICResults.aspx?mode=Publication&doctype=MMEL EASA: https://easa.europa.eu/document-library/master-minimum-equipment-lists MEL's are operator specific, but the MMEL is the basis for these documents. The MMEL occasionally has even more information then a specific MEL, as the MMEL may include multiple options and variants in one document. Patrick Houghton
June 29, 201510 yr What is MEL?!? Mel Brooks? Mel Gibson? Wich one? Artur MunteanuThe secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made!
June 29, 201510 yr Author Minimum Equipment List. If the 744 V2 comes with Mel Gibson, I'm not buying it. A
June 29, 201510 yr Minimum Equipment List. If the 744 V2 comes with Mel Gibson, I'm not buying it. LOL. Ah ok. Artur MunteanuThe secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made!
June 29, 201510 yr What is MEL?!? Mel Broks? Mel Gibbson? Wich one? It stands for Minimum Equipment List - basically stuff that is not working on the aircraft, certain things have to be working (obviously) but an aircraft can be dispatched with less important kit not functioning (ie a strobe light out) - I cant remember off the top of my head but there is a certain amount of time on certain items when they have to be repaired. Hope that helps - although while typing this I see 2 replies have popped up so someone has probably answered already! Cheers, Or you were taking the Mick...I mean MEL! Anthony Milner
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