July 15, 201510 yr As an owner of the 777 for both FSX and P3D, I have an interesting opinion of its performance in FSX/FSX:SE when compared against the P3D version. I'm interested to hear if others have noticed (or not noticed!) any differences in the overall performance/capability of their sims when using the 777 across the different platforms. There are of course no "correct" answers here, only your observations. I'd politely ask that only those who have actually used the 777 on both platforms weigh in, as I'm interested in seeing if my observations are shared by others. Do you have any thoughts to share? -Greg
July 15, 201510 yr Commercial Member Do you have any thoughts to share? To me, most of the "differences" come from variables in the sims themselves. As an example, the settings in P3D do not match up exactly with FSX, which means you cannot compare them 1:1. Sure, you can get the renderings close between the two, but it will not be exact. Moreover, people can also either use past experience to make the new sim better looking, or succumb to the laziness of having expended all that effort on the last sim. As an example, scenery-wise, my P3D only has a few payware airports, and no other scenery in it, simply because I couldn't be arsed to expend the extra effort getting all that scenery into the sim. In addition to the different settings issue, having more/less add-ons will cause the performance to vary. Interestingly enough, despite my laziness in adding scenery into P3D, I was up until 0100 this morning downloading and updating scenery in X-Plane. Human motivation is a curious beast... Any time someone suggests that performance is wildly better, I usually have my doubts as to their claims. People are very subject to what the auto-modding world calls the "butt dyno bias," or the "thought that something is better simply because you changed it, without verifiable proof" (in this case, a dynamometer, or dyno). Kyle Rodgers
July 15, 201510 yr I'm just happy, and satisfied that I have at least one PMDG aircraft that works smooth and reliable in FSX;SE now! lol I'd chatted up Kyle about an issue I had with the 737, but that was taking into account running the nortorious GSX with it...caused everything to crash after exit. I ran the Lucky 7 last night and exited during the flight and the FSX menu came back and I could exit without a crash, but that was with GSX uninstalled. lol I did have P3D reinstalled about a week ago to see what performance gains I might get but oddly enough, it ran about the same as FSX:SE would and considering all the hoops and extra cash I'd have to put down for P3D versioned products, it wasn't financially prudent for me right now. I'm happy I have a rig to run the pristine PDMG aircraft now. Steady frames, good response but it took a little work and some concessions on my end through settings and such. As Kyle pointed out with his statements above, allow me to retort with this: Your mileage may vary. -Jim Engage, research, inform and make your posts count! -Jim Morvay Origin EON-17SLX - Under the hood: Intel Core i7 7700K at 4.2GHz (Base) 4.6GHz (overclock), nVidia GeForce GTX-1080 Pascal w/8gb vram, 32gb (2x16) Crucial 2400mhz RAM, 3840 x 2160 17.3" IPS w/G-SYNC, Samsung 950 EVO 256GB PCIe m.2 SSD (Primary), Samsung 850 EVO 500gb M.2 (Sim Drive), MS Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit
July 15, 201510 yr Opinions are like, well... bellybuttons. Everyone has one. I have FSX/FSXSE, P3D and XPlane and for the foreseeable future all my non-Beta activity is exclusively P3D. If I shared my reasons there's be heated discussion and I don't want to go there so we'll just leave it here. I really like P3D, performance and beauty. Dan Downs KCRP
July 15, 201510 yr Commercial Member Opinions are like, well... bellybuttons. Everyone has one. I have FSX/FSXSE, P3D and XPlane and for the foreseeable future all my non-Beta activity is exclusively P3D. If I shared my reasons there's be heated discussion and I don't want to go there so we'll just leave it here. I really like P3D, performance and beauty. I had the same thought, but I'm now getting slightly attached to the visuals in X-Plane now that we have the 6 to go beat up on in that platform. I've been tweaking some of the effects and adding terrain, and the results are incredible. ...then again, I guess this thread is just FSX/FSX:SE and P3D. Kyle Rodgers
July 20, 201510 yr Author Following up - I saw a few threads from this past February which asked/answered this very question... At that time, most seemed to think FSX had better FPS with the 777 than P3D. That said, a common theme was that P3D had an intangible smoothness and consistency to the framerate which lent itself very well to the flying, despite being lower than FSX's capability. Since then, the "OPTIMIZE PARTS" tweak has come to P3D, and that probably gives Prepar3D the edge in both rights at this point. It certainly does push the P3D frames up from where they would have been in February. As July 29th fast approaches, my "Flight Sim ADHD" is strong when it comes to A.) Wanting a clean, one-sim installation, and B.) Trying to decide which one to install when the machine gets wiped and starts fresh under Win10. There's more to it than just the 777's performance - such as availability and performance of other airplanes, different utilities, and other things... Thanks, and we'll see what happens... -Greg
July 20, 201510 yr Commercial Member A.) Wanting a clean, one-sim installation While I can understand the mental obsessive compulsion in that regard, it's a huge misconception in this community that re-imaging "cleans" the PC to the point that you're going to get better performance. If you're getting poor performance off of your HD, you have bigger issues to handle. Sim performance is all about the GPU and CPU (more the latter for P3D and FSX). The HD cleanliness only affects initial load times, really. Kyle Rodgers
July 20, 201510 yr Author While I can understand the mental obsessive compulsion in that regard, it's a huge misconception in this community that re-imaging "cleans" the PC to the point that you're going to get better performance. Oh, I get that and agree - entirely! Over the past several years with Win7, it really is more of a OCD thing than a performance-driven thing... I've rebuilt my machines even if the simulations were performing top notch. That said, even though Windows 10 seems to do a far better job with an in-place upgrade than its predecessors, I'm still not convinced it's the right way to go when the time comes. That will be a crisp, clean reinstall with the hopes I can decide once and for all which platform I'm going to cozy up to.... at least until the next reinstall a few months down the road... -Greg
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