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Hi guys ,

 

just installed the V3 version and trying to get the AA settings right,

 

In the past i used nvidia inspector for this but don't know if i still need it or should the settings be made within P3D .

My system is a 4790K at 4.7 , with a GTX980 lightning card so performance shouldn't be a problem ,

 

Can someone give me some advice  wich settings i need to change , in P3D or in inspector or in both  to get the best AA,

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Best regards,

 

Gérard van Veldhoven

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It doesn't appear any changes were made to the AA settings for v3 so I would recommend using at least 4x SGSSAA through NI.  In v2.5 I used 4x SGSSAA in NI and 4x MSAA in P3D with FXAA off and that gave me the best results.  I tried these settings last night with v3 and it still appears to be the case.  

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It doesn't appear any changes were made to the AA settings for v3 so I would recommend using at least 4x SGSSAA through NI.  In v2.5 I used 4x SGSSAA in NI and 4x MSAA in P3D with FXAA off and that gave me the best results.  I tried these settings last night with v3 and it still appears to be the case.  

 

It stopped using NI after I switched from FSX to P3D v2 (the day it was released) so I am a bit out of the loop: I do remember a few other settings had to be changed in NI in order to get 4x SGSSAA to work: is that still the case or can I simply install NI, change the setting to 4x SGSSAA and that's it? Or do I really have to alter some more settings? I am thinking about giving it a try because I am getting a bit tired of the jagged edges after some two years LOL

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You can get away with only 2xSGSS in NI, it removes almost all flicker on my lowly GTX 670.

Of course, if you have the horsepower, crank it up. :smile:


It stopped using NI after I switched from FSX to P3D v2 (the day it was released) so I am a bit out of the loop: I do remember a few other settings had to be changed in NI in order to get 4x SGSSAA to work: is that still the case or can I simply install NI, change the setting to 4x SGSSAA and that's it? Or do I really have to alter some more settings? I am thinking about giving it a try because I am getting a bit tired of the jagged edges after some two years LOL

You need to change two settings for SGSS to happen Jeroen.

First set Antialiasing->"Antialiasing - Mode" to "Enhance the application setting" (default setting "Application controlled".).

Then you can set Antialiasing->"Transparency Supersampling" to whatever you want. :smile:

 

- JP

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There is another setting that I change to "Enhance the Application Setting".  I can't remember the name of the setting but I can report back when I get home this evening.  Those are the only two I change and get beautiful results.  

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Hi,

 

Thanks all ,

 

@ ryan ..gonna try the same settings as i had in 2,5 wich are the same as yours,

 

Thanks again

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You need to change two settings for SGSS to happen Jeroen.

 

First set Antialiasing->"Antialiasing - Mode" to "Enhance the application setting" (default setting "Application controlled".).

 

Then you can set Antialiasing->"Transparency Supersampling" to whatever you want. :smile:

 

- JP

 

I must try that JP,    In NI now days i change "adaptive power to High performance"  and  "Single display mode"  i don't know if this actually does anything but sure i change it anyway  :smile:

 

I use 4/8 SGSG on top of that,  this for me is great, settles down all the rattling  

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Word of warning, If you run with inspector and find you have FPS drops when flying though clouds you know why. :wink:

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Word of warning, If you run with inspector and find you have FPS drops when flying though clouds you know why. :wink:

LOL Yes, I know but I am willing to give it a totally free try with v3. Maybe this version's optimizations will do wonders when using NI and flying through clouds.

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Word of warning, If you run with inspector and find you have FPS drops when flying though clouds you know why. :wink:

 

Well obviously David yes of course we do,   actually i haven't got a clue really.   Is that just heaver usage through clouds and that ?? 

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I'm pretty sure you already use those settings I posted Elaine, except you use better supersampling than 2xSG on your fancy hardware. :smile:

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Look forward to your reports.

 

Well obviously David yes of course we do,   actually i haven't got a clue really.   Is that just heaver usage through clouds and that ?? 

Its because the clouds get AA so you can be fine untill you fly thought them and the heavy load of AA on them all kicks in.

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 JP  :smile:

 

@David

 

Yes im still finding my feet AA/performance balance wize,  will have to do some proper testing over the weekend 

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Word of warning, If you run with inspector and find you have FPS drops when flying though clouds you know why. :wink:

 

Well, I did a very thorough test this morning with Inspector and after 15 seconds I decided to forget about NI LOL. An fps drop from +30 to around 15 isn't worth it. ;)

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Hi Jeroen,

 

just took off from kiad  and in the climb i had some  heavy clouds and had the same ,  heavily reduced frames ,  so next flight i m gonna try without ni.

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Yes, well, NI with 4xSSGMSMSSAAAAA or whatever the abbreviation was is of course a lot better looking but the drop in fps is way too much. I will have to stick with the not too good P3D AA.

 

I am btw thinking about upgrading my GTX 780 to a GTX 980 Ti. That might help a little (?).

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:Tounge:  :spiteful:  :P

Told you  :lol: , joking aside...

 

O well no harm trying, well sad really, was hoping you would say all is fine now Dave....O well.

 

J you have a 6GB card like me if I remember right? I have no FPS problems, think your fine, try 8 withing v3

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:Tounge:  :spiteful:  :P

Told you  :lol: , joking aside...

 

O well no harm trying, well sad really, was hoping you would say all is fine now Dave....O well.

 

J you have a 6GB card like me if I remember right? I have no FPS problems, think your fine, try 8 withing v3

 

LOL

 

Yes, I have a 6GB card indeed (good memory, Dave! (EDIT Talking about your own memory here, not the GPU's memory...) Better than mine!) and already have 8 within v3. Still see very obvious jaggies on gauges. I am running at 1920x1080 though. Maybe I should get a higher res monitor too: that would help also, I guess (though at the cost of performance once more, I suppose. Although not with a 980 Ti, I guess...) (EDIT Sorry for all the guessing and supposing...)

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A "warning" from me ... lol

 

One shouldn't decide too fast whether not using SGSSAA and should decide it by self testing, not by recommendations!

 

It's the balance between having ALLWAYS very shimmering/flickering, especially in the instruments (and if you use the instruments, you know what i mean) or on the other side having a (nearly) crisp visual with (nearly) no shimmering when using 4*SGSSAA (some are good with 2*SGSSAA, but again - YOU decide for youself whats good enough) at the "cost" of some fps-lost in clouds (where you don't see much at all..).

 

As a mark, you definitely can use it with a GTX660 (2 GB), if you balance the other settings in P3D - and if you do it right there is nearly no loss in fidelity. (I tested it now with my new GTX970 in P3D v3 with my prefered settings and didn't see any loss of fps - other than in P3D v2.5 where i saw a major loss of fps too - but this is another theme). So its definitely worth to do some good testing!

 

You don't destroy anything testing it....

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 if you balance the other settings in P3D

 

Of course. But I rather have extremely dense detail in my sim and jaggies than no jaggies but 'normal' detail. Obviously you can make 4xSGSSAA work without fps dipping into the teens by lowering settings in P3D, but that's a choice everyone has to make.

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Isn't it great we have a / the choice ?  :smile: 

 

@wizzards: (too ?) much choices in NI - but not for SGSSAA - you need exactly 1  (on the other hand: aren't we simmers fiddlers?..)

 

DSR: it's worth testing since it became very easy to activate (not as easy as SGSSAA with NI !). Interestingly on my 3 rigs it always was more fps-hungry and more forcing stuttering than SGSSAA - if it was set to have nearly the same (it didn't reach the same) quality as SGSSAA. But nice to have and independent from personal likings, on screens with other resolutions and dimensions than mine (27' 1920*1080) it may be a totaly different experience.

 

@Jan: i have all terrain, detail and special effects sliders to the max. water medium. traffic all 10%. shadowquality low and only for the plane and clouds. volumetric fog, detailed clouds and maximum cloud coverage density. 4*MSAA + 4*SGSSAA, 16*Aniso, tesselation on, texture 1024.

So the only things i reduced are the shadowquality (because i dont see any benefits from higher quality shadows) and the traffic. In vanilla P3D v3 i see no fps hit anymore in the clouds and have a smooth sim (with 4*SGSSAA! and 4*MSAA locked at 30fps). I will do more testing - of course ;)) and the dropdown may come with addons, but so far i miss no detail  :Tounge: 

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DSR has very little hit on fps here. Sometimes its bad on my old eyes. :Tounge:

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