Miguel you are 100% right!Bruce... What is wrong with your 744?I have no problems and there for I think it is quite strange!!Loads of stuff can occur, when you are dealing different system setups and so on, but again I have NO problems!I do not think all fps issues are to be blamed on the creator of the plane, but sometimes they can, in this case how ever, there was a leak, and they fixed it in the first update.There are still issues, I guess, but I have not been botheres by any issues, not now and not before the first patch! That's the truth, now, I read stuff like your post and it will make me jump in my seat, cuz I cannot see or understand how two persons can have the EXCACT opposite view on this.Boaz...

A similar thread was started on the PMDG forum about the Avsim review by me and has since been deleted.Don't let it happen on here guys?Dave T. .........On the lovely warm Devon Riviera and active 'FlightSim User's Group' member at http://www.flightsimgrpuk.free-online.co.uk/

Write your>own review of this product and we will be able to read it and>take it apart too.>>>Michael J.>WinXP-Home SP2,AMD64 3500+,Abit AV8,Radeon X800Pro,36GB>Raptor,1GB PC3200,Audigy 2>http://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/747400.jpg>http://www.hifisim.com/images/asv_beta_member.jpgWell, If PMDG had of taken the trouble to respond to my application to write a review, I would have done it.Getting a product for

>A similar thread was started on the PMDG forum about the>Avsim review by me and has since been deleted.>-i guess the thread about the AVSIM review has been deleted as a lot of users were saying that it didn't mention any problems with the aircraft, but on the PMDG front product page they advertise quite openly the fact that the 747 has been awarded an AVSIM gold medal! also several threads about refund policy have also gone, PMDG seem to be good at reading posts and zapping them but very rarely do the development team reply to a thread, i know there are literally hundreds of posts, but their absence is conspicuous, especially when so many users have issues. They do however seem to like to make users aware of exactly what can and cannot be said in their forums by issuing numbered rules and regulations in sticky for all to read lol. Just my observations as a 737NG user, and i haven't got the 747!

You're spot on with that one.Jeff

Just noticed that PMDG have amended the 747 product page with new higher specifications for best performance:Requirements: PIV 1.8GHz, 512MB RAM, 64MB Graphics Card | For best performance: PIV 3.0GHz, 1GB RAMFrom memory the best performance figures have been increased from PIV 2.4GHz, 512MB RAMNow why didn't they specify the higher spec from release day?

>Now why didn't they specify the higher spec from release day?Why? Is it really so hard to understand? Since when the "minimum specs" has been an exact science? It is such a nebulous area that two people may completely disagree what the minimum specs should be and they will disgaree by factor of 100% rathern than paltry 25% in CPU speed.Michael J.WinXP-Home SP2,AMD64 3500+,Abit AV8,Radeon X800Pro,36GB Raptor,1GB PC3200,Audigy 2http://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/747400.jpghttp://www.hifisim.com/images/asv_beta_member.jpg

>>>Now why didn't they specify the higher spec from release>day?>>Why? Is it really so hard to understand? Since when the>"minimum specs" has been an exact science? It is such a>nebulous area that two people may completely disagree what the>minimum specs should be and they will disgaree by factor of>100% rathern than paltry 25% in CPU speed.>i wasn't really talking about the 'minimum' spec to run the model, the fact is that PMDG have increased the 'best performance' spec - that is what the developer considers is necessary for best performance - from that originally published on release. Therefore my point is that the developer obviously now considers this model requires more horsepower to run than was first specified on initial release + best memory requirements increased by 50% !i think it looks a great model but just can't take the risk to try it out and hope it will run ok on my system, not at $55. with no money-back guarantee, especially when many users have reported problems, but maybe that will change with the service release.:)

>- i wasn't really talking about the 'minimum' spec to run the>model, the fact is that PMDG have increased the 'best>performance' spec -makes no difference. Minimum spec or "best performance" spec - they all have been very controversial. No two people would agree what it really means since there are so many variables. By the way, they should have never stated what "best" performance specs are - clearly you get the best performance when you buy the BEST computer TODAY. Michael J.

>PMDG seem to be good at reading posts and zapping them I don't see it this way. They zap very few threads. Overall they still have a fairly liberal forum policy with plenty of freedom and no pre-screening of posts like other developers do.Michael J.

Hey Michael - so have you got the PMDG 747 and how is it on your system? and do you recommend it?:)

>so have you got the PMDG 747 but of course>and do you recommend it?>but of course :) Michael J.WinXP-Home SP2,AMD64 3500+,Abit AV8,Radeon X800Pro,36GB Raptor,1GB PC3200,Audigy 2http://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/747400.jpghttp://www.hifisim.com/images/asv_beta_member.jpg

Just completed a RJAA - VHHH - KSFO in a total of more than 16h flight, with a reload of the panel at VHHH to change livery, almost full load pax and cargo, fuel at the top, and....5 out of 5 :) :)Only thing noticed: after empty the center tanks, and "balanced" the wing tanks, and closed the cross valves, somehow the engine n

>Just completed a RJAA - VHHH - KSFO in a total of more than>16h flight, with a reload of the panel at VHHH to change>livery, almost full load pax and cargo, fuel at the top,Congratulations Miguel on your superb airmanship :)You are one of the few who completed such a long haul flight without running out of fuel. ;)This is another example how complex this product is and how easy it is to blame your own user errors on PMDG. Many folks have basic problems with understanding how to manage systems, fuel, performance to complete such long haul flights without having to look for emergency landing.Michael J.

> Hi, After reading some concerns about the review, I jumped>back in time and noticed that 'way back when', PSS released>the 747-400 it too was given 5/5 stars. Sure there are>limitations, but this is an addon that I still use in FS2k2.>Perhaps the ratings don't reflect perfection, but reflect how>far the boundries have been pushed within the limits of the >PC platform.> Cheers! Thanks, you got it exactly right! As noted elsewhere in this thread 100% bug-free performance is an unrealistic expectation, especially in a product of the 747's complexity and within the 1st month of its release. Consider (as I pointed out in my review) that essentially all the aircraft systems code is new (as I understand it, not based on underlying MSFS code), the flight dynamics software is conceptually new (requiring entirely new code as well), and that the VC's code design is original enabling amazingly smooth-flowing instrument updating as well as fully interactive operation. All that and I didn't encounter any problem affecting either the aircraft's or my computer's operation. In view of the development team's innovative thinking and willingness to undertake more extensive software programming than ought to be expected of a commercial product, I and my colleagues at Avsim stand behind our judgment that this product has indeed "raised the bar" for future reviews of products of this genre.Yes, we awarded PSS' 747-400 for FS2002 5 stars and our AoE--in December, 2000. PMDG's 747-400 has indeed pushed the Air Transport genre to the limits of FS2004 (actually, beyond those limits) running on today's personal computer systems. That PMDG accomplished this without compromising framerate performance (as long as users tune its options to their particular system) is, I think, remarkable.Clearly, some have experienced stutters they don't experience with other products. I didn't, so as a reviewer I won't speculate about what others have seen. I can only point out that I bought the high-end system on which I reviewed this product so I could also enjoy today's detailed airport scenery, a variety of weather conditions, with a reasonable AI computer workload as well--but I deliberately conduct test flights with default airports, fair weather conditions and around 50% AI (Ultimate Traffic). My FS is set at 30 fps, and that's what I got throughout with the PMDG 747-400 using default options and with the DXT3 texture livery.