December 4, 201510 yr Commercial Member Yes, I have not changed anything in the bios and in fact set bios to default a few days ago. I will make a short video showing what happens. Paul Grubich 2017 - Professional texture artist painting virtual aircraft I love. Be sure to check out my aged cockpits for the A2A B-377, B-17 and Connie at Flightsim.com and Avsim library
December 4, 201510 yr Commercial Member Mines the opposite, just slightly slower to reach unblack plane with no AM, took a second longer to get weather in, and longer to close by about a second. After a few more swapovers...with 340 the weather is there with the plane from the unpause. There's possibly a slight delay with the clouds popping in with no AM, but there's no differences really at all otherwise.As it happens I gave someone an AM to use 5 cores of a 6 core just yesterday, because they asked about photoscenery and the possibility of different loading strategy within the sim threading. I've not heard back but some have said more threads can help in those cases. Worth checking at least, but from the many tests I've made there's no difference allowing all the cores to run the sim, 6(12) or 8(16), the chip just gets hotter and eats VAS without the AM, that's a certainty. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
December 4, 201510 yr Commercial Member What number should I use to help with this problem? Six core 5930k currently at 340. Paul Grubich 2017 - Professional texture artist painting virtual aircraft I love. Be sure to check out my aged cockpits for the A2A B-377, B-17 and Connie at Flightsim.com and Avsim library
December 4, 201510 yr Commercial Member you can try other AMs, like 4 cores HT enabled 340 or 680 5 cores HT enabled 1364 or 2728 6 cores HT enabled 1365 or 2730 then you can try doubling up secondary threads per core like 6 cores HT enabled 4085 or 4090 4072=(11,11,11,10,10,00) might be worth a try. When doubling up threads like that on an HT enabled system, the threads, often only at 30%, can better utilise the core at 60% with two. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
December 4, 201510 yr Hi Steve, LOL, you don't give up, do you?! Don't worry, I fully intend to explore this further once I start overclocking. I will be aiming for 4.0-4.5GHz and that should be achievable with the Corsair Hydro Series™ H110i GT 280mm cooling the CPU. So far, CPU temps have not risen above 35degrees C. Rest assured I will be keeping your helpful suggestions in mind. I appreciate your persistence and the time spent trying to keep us all on the straight and narrow. I suspect that, for all its might, my 5960X at BCLK currently may be bottlenecking the two STRIX GTX 980s in P3DV3. We shall see. I've been interested in Flight Simulation since those heady days of FSII and Bruce Artwick. Over the past few years, while I always seem to be able to extract quite decent performance from each system build, nevertheless it was evident that my hardware choices have been less than optimal and I was always playing catchup. This will likely be my last rig and I was determined that things would be different and so I resolved to build a high spec system which, hopefully, will last a few years and, possibly, beyond. It was always intended primarily for flight simulation and gaming. Prepar3D V3, MS Flight, Skyrim (heavily modded), The Witcher 3, Elite Dangerous, X-Rebirth, GTA and Project Cars are all handled with aplomb with bags of headroom to spare, so I am pretty confident that this time around I have made the right choices. The build and software installation has been relatively straightforward with very few problems encountered along the way. Windows 7 64bit sits on its own SSD drive and appears rock solid stable. Once again, many thanks for all your help and guidance. Regards, Mike
December 4, 201510 yr Commercial Member It's all for fun. Mostly the performance is the same. With a mega airport and complicated aircraft and crushing settings, 3960x+GTX680, no improvements with texture loading time AM 340 and no AM. Maybe slightly worse rotating the outside view with no AM, but could be subjective. Those guys with four core CPUs need not worry, you'll get practically the same performance with three cores if need be, just share out 4 LPs to avoid maxing terrain loading as shown with 116. It's all in the mind, get on and fly. :smile: Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
December 4, 201510 yr Author Steve, Last week I switched from 1392 to 340 and it flies great. However, on my server I also need to run : Project Magenta MCP , SIOC, Cockpitsonic tq, Opus ( buttkicker ) and Fiber Accelerator. Will they be devided over all cores automatically or do they all want to be on core 0 ? Is AM with the above still good enough ? Thanks, Gerard 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
December 4, 201510 yr Commercial Member Hey Gerard, Well unless they have a routine that starts them up on certain LPs, and few do, the jobscheduler will take good care of them and if they stop and start they may come back on little used LPs anyway. So many prefer to utilise an AM to mask off one or more core of the CPU from the sim, leaving them free of the sim to soak up other tasks. With 340 you've got a core free in front and behind the four cores running the sim, so these two spare cores should have plenty of bandwidth to soak your addons up. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
December 4, 201510 yr Author Thanks Steve. 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
December 5, 201510 yr Your blurry textures may be something else like mesh resolution eats away at LOD. Steve just curios about what this means? Thanks, gb. YSSY. Win 10, [email protected], Corsair H115i Cooler, RTX 4070Ti, 32GB G.Skill Trident Z F4-3200, Samsung 960 EVO M.2 256GB, ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger, Corsair HX850i 850W, Thermaltake Core X31 Case, Samsung 4K 65" TV.
December 5, 201510 yr Commercial Member Hi gboz, if you install a high res mesh, it uses up resources of the sim and the effective LOD is reduced and in the worst cases can be seen with mountains popping up easily in view. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
December 5, 201510 yr Commercial Member you can try other AMs, like 4 cores HT enabled 340 or 680 5 cores HT enabled 1364 or 2728 6 cores HT enabled 1365 or Steve, I just recently installed an i7 4790K and with all of the discussion about turning off hyperthreading, would it make sense to exchange is for an i5 4690K? REX AccuSeason Developer REX Simulations
December 5, 201510 yr Commercial Member Not really, I would go for i7. The spin about turning off HT is because the HT on situation is not fully understood. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
December 5, 201510 yr Commercial Member Not really, I would go for i7. The spin about turning off HT is because the HT on situation is not fully understood. Thanks for the response. So if it seems best to turn off HT, what benefit would an i7 have over an i5? REX AccuSeason Developer REX Simulations
December 5, 201510 yr Commercial Member If HT is best turned off, why do you think it costs more? Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
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