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Thinking Of Switching to SSD

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I am looking at this SSD.... Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB,Internal,2.5" (MZ-75E500B/AM)

 

Question.

 

I have just build a new PC with the following components.

 

AMD 4.2 GHZ Vishera CPU

8gb DDR3 1600  Ram

NVidia EVGA 970 (pn#3975)

 

 

So the question is. How much additional performance in terms of FPS and smoothness will a SSD get me. Currently with my system with all sliders at an average of 66% of max performance I am getting 28-34 FPS on FSX (non Steam)

 

I have heard that SSD improve FPS and game performance. Is this True. I would be cloning my cuurent 1TB SATA drive.

 

Thanks

 

Randy 

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Your fps will not change..

 

Everything will load faster and appear smoother.. and much quieter  :wink:

 

Go for it!

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Your fps will not change..

 

Everything will load faster and appear smoother.. and much quieter  :wink:

 

Go for it!

Smoother in what way with FSX?

Also Bert.

 

I got the 970 and yes, it is a sweet card.

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The only difference you will see is on the loading screen, that will be a lot faster. Besides that, nothing will change, you won't see any improvements in flight.

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I spend my $$$ on a new 27 inch monitor. I don't mind waiting 35 seconds for loading.

 

Randy

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I spend my $$$ on a new 27 inch monitor. I don't mind waiting 35 seconds for loading.

 

Randy

 

That's a good choice, I think you'll get more enjoyment out of the monitor ;)

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The only difference you will see is on the loading screen, that will be a lot faster. Besides that, nothing will change, you won't see any improvements in flight.

 

I'm not so sure about that...  when you traverse areas with detailed scenery, or you approach a detailed airport, your sim may hesitate for a fraction of a second... an SSD will be better than a hard drive in that situation.

 

These things happen as you fly.. just pay attention..

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I'm not so sure about that...  when you traverse areas with detailed scenery, or you approach a detailed airport, your sim may hesitate for a fraction of a second... an SSD will be better than a hard drive in that situation.

 

These things happen as you fly.. just pay attention..

 

Not really Bert. Unless you are flying a fighting jet or something of the sort, the reading velocity of a mechanic HDD is more than enough to load everything in normal flight. If you fly GA or commercial jets, I guarantee that those "hesitations" have nothing to do with the HD.

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Lets agree to disagree on this...

 

We are not talking about reading velocity, but random access to a big blob of data, in real time.

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Large amount of excess RAM available to OS for use as a disk read cache would be even faster, and shift the bottleneck to CPU speed.

 

Confirmed that by observing blurry ground texture and little disk activity when running with unlimited FPS during flight, and no additional disk activity when shifting view, with 16GB of RAM but a relatively slow(2.9GHz i7-3632QM) and non-overclockable mobile CPU.

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Hi Folks,

 

I just bought the Samsung 850 Pro 512GB for my initial foray into P3D - which hopefully I'll install this weekend... I already have two 256GB SSD's... I like Samsung and SSD's seem like the only way to go... Of course I have some big mechanical storage for programs that don't require fast load times and bulk storage...

 

Regards,
Scott

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Before I moved to 3x 24" Dell ultrasharps I had a single LG27" and it was also very nice. So get the monitor NOW, but with the SSD prices falling I would pick one of those up real soon, If you use a lot of ORBX scenery you will love the increased load times.

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hey guys, i currently have a 500gb hard drive with windows, FSX and everything installed in there (i don't have any partitions). Im thinking about buying an SSD but i need your help:

First, do i need to check any compatibility issues with the motherboard or the processor or anything like that?

Second, i already read a lot of times that you shouldn't install everything in the ssd (because it is a waste of the speeds it allows). So what should be installed in the SSD and what should stay in the HDD?

Thanks for the help!!

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Depends on the size of the SSD...

 

In my case:

 

120 GB SSD with Windows 7

 

256 GB SSD with FSX

 

2 TB HD with everything else

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I keep bulk storage (i.e. downloaded installers) and backups on a conventional HDD (a 1.5 TB WD Caviar Black).  Win7 and system stuff sits on a 256GB Samsung 850 Pro, and FSX/P3D share a 1TB Samsung 850 Pro.

 

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that using SSDs also eliminates the need for defragging your OS and FS hard drives, which is a real time saver on the maintenance end.

 

Regards

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I keep bulk storage (i.e. downloaded installers) and backups on a conventional HDD (a 1.5 TB WD Caviar Black).  Win7 and system stuff sits on a 256GB Samsung 850 Pro, and FSX/P3D share a 1TB Samsung 850 Pro.

 

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that using SSDs also eliminates the need for defragging your OS and FS hard drives, which is a real time saver on the maintenance end.

 

Regards

 

Since Windows 7, if I'm not mistaken, defragging is done in the background by the OS itself. It's one of those things that was really important but that nowadays no one should worry about.

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For me SSD was the best PC upgrade I ever did.

It's like a whole new computer. Dunno if it helps with FSX but once your system starts for the first time you will ask yourself "why did I wait that long?".

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Do you need an ssd for the os. Was thinking of getting one for now and using it just for fsx. Also was thinking of just creating an image of my fsx HD and dumping it on the new ssd so I don't have to reinstall everything. Anyone think there would be any issues with that.

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You can do that, that is how I did it.

 

Some addons may complain, so you selectively re-install those.

 

Having the OS on an SSD will give you better PC performance overall, however..

 

:wink:

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 An SSD for the OS is essential. For FS or P3d it's more or of a nice to have thing. Load times will go down but that's where the performance gains end. Newer SSD's that run off of the PCIe bus will bring much much faster speeds than current SSD's and maybe with those we'll see actual performance gains.

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Since Windows 7, if I'm not mistaken, defragging is done in the background by the OS itself. It's one of those things that was really important but that nowadays no one should worry about.

 

No, I think you're confusing defragmentation with the automatic background TRIM passes done on SSDs by Win 7 and later. 

 

I have several Win7 machines that still use hard disks, and they definitely exhibit fragmentation with use, and they still require periodic use of a defrag utility to keep disk I/O from slowing down.

 

Regards

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Actually there's a disk defrag built in Windows (dfrgui) I believe since Vista. Never used it myself and I have no idea if it works well or not. And of course an SSD should never be defragged

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Since Windows 7, if I'm not mistaken, defragging is done in the background by the OS itself. It's one of those things that was really important but that nowadays no one should worry about.

You are mistaken. Windows has had it's own defrag utility for many years. Now, in Windows 7 [certainly after XP] you can schedule a defrag for a particular date and time. That's the only difference. Or you can defrag manually. So yes, for a mechanical hard drive you should still consider it and either defrag yourself or set up a schedule.

 

Incidentally, I have always used the Windows defrag, I have never used any kind of third party defrag utility. The Windows defrag does the job fine.

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You are mistaken. Windows has had it's own defrag utility for many years. Now, in Windows 7 [certainly after XP] you can schedule a defrag for a particular date and time. That's the only difference. Or you can defrag manually. So yes, for a mechanical hard drive you should still consider it and either defrag yourself or set up a schedule.

 

Incidentally, I have always used the Windows defrag, I have never used any kind of third party defrag utility. The Windows defrag does the job fine.

 

Well, I never defrag my drives, and always when I analyze them they are at 0% defragmentation, using both windows and third party tools. So I guess the magic faeries are doing it when I'm not looking.

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