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Hello, today i maked a flight and during landing on KPHL-27L the PMDG plane landed with ILS 109.30/267

but must be 109.30/265

My current AIRAC cycle is 1603

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There is something i can do?

 

Regards, Jaap Mooijer

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Most likely you have configured the NGX to use the FSX LOC CRS.

 

Update the scenery and  magvar table.

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In one of the pmdg options menus in the fmc make sure that the option about confirming headings to fsx or something similar is not enabled. Also isn't there a v3 of the navdata are you using the latest update?

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Hello, today i maked a flight and during landing on KPHL-27L the PMDG plane landed with ILS 109.30/267

but must be 109.30/265

My current AIRAC cycle is 1603

ScreenHunter_603Mar.2522.29.png

 

ScreenHunter_603Mar.2522.28.png

 

There is something i can do?

 

Regards, Jaap Mooijer

Also SunSkyJet have a free KPHL. It's not as friendly fps wise as default but give it a try!  http://www.sunskyjet.com/

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Thank you all for replying to me!

 

 


Update the scenery and magvar table

I have performed this afternoon Hervé Sors Magnetic Variation Update

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Also SunSkyJet have a free KPHL. It's not as friendly fps wise as default but give it a try!

I've downloaded scenery KPHL, and also installed, beautiful scenery.
But Heading on runway now is 268 degree

ScreenHunter_603Mar.2620.43.png

 

 

 


In one of the pmdg options menus in the fmc make sure that the option about confirming headings to fsx or something similar is not enabled.

CORRECT LOC CRS TO FSX = OFF now, before it was ON!

Is this what you mean? I have not been trying it!

ScreenHunter_603Mar.2620.49.png

 

 

 


Also isn't there a v3 of the navdata are you using the latest update?

I've installed Herve Sors FSX/P3D Navaids latest update 1603?

 

Now, after making all the changes I've made the trip again.

Landing on runway 27L looking good for me now!!

 

Because an error appeared during the landing and just for the runway i've to try again.

 

Regards, Jaap Mooijer

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I've made a new flight KWRI 06 - KPHL 27L Landing on the new scenery of Philadelphia, but the heading is still 267 degree, en must be 265
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Regards, Jaap Mooijer

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Hello Jaap,

 

The 777 generates it's own data file located in the PMDG/NAVDATA folder called ARPT_RWY.dat.

 

With the sim closed backup and delete this file. Run makerwys.exe whilst your at it, then try the flight again, the 777 will regenerate ARPT_RWY.dat file.

 

If I get chance I'll test the route myself.

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Not sure why you would be using that for this issue.

 

The SunSkyJet scenery has a runway heading of 255, the mag var is -10deg giving the 265 front-course. The ILS of 27L is setup for the same.

 

The Navigraph AIRAC has the correct 265 entry.

 

It's possible the ARPT_RWY.dat file which should automatically update on scenery change has not done so and contains the 267 heading that your seeing.

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Run makerwys.exe whilst your at it, then try the flight again, the 777 will regenerate ARPT_RWY.dat file.

First i've renamed ARPT_RWY.dat in ARPT_RWY.dat.bak

 

Then i tryed to find "MakeRwys.exe" and then i came to "AF_cleanner.exe"

 

It is sufficient to simply rename, then FSX and PMDG 777-200LR / F to boot, so that a new "ARPT_RWY.dat" file is placed?

 

​Regards, Jaap

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That should be sufficient to update the file according to scenery/airac.

 

Makerwys is used by the inbuilt RAAS, it should be located and run the flightsim root folder, the latest version available from Pete Dowson

 

Makerwys.exe should be run after any scenery update.

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Here is my approach to 27L, KPHL_Sunskyjet scenery, magnetic variation updated by Herve Sors, Navigraph 1603.

 

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Hello Stephen, thank you very much.

 

After StartUp for a new PMDG 777 flight, this new file appears: 

ScreenHunter_603Mar.2716.55.png

 

< magnetic variation updated by Herve Sors, Navigraph 1603 >

This all i've done as well...

 

Now i will try again flight KWRI 06 - KPHL 27L, i'm very curious what will happening.

 

Anyway, this is a VERY good sign:

ScreenHunter_603Mar.2717.12.png

 

Regards, Jaap

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Hello Stephen, here the result during approach 27L. Strange, the heading of the plane is still 267 degree?

ScreenHunter_603Mar.2717.41.png

 

FSX-SE map

ScreenHunter_603Mar.2717.45.png

 

Before the flight i've updated AirAc 1603 again.

 

Maybe i've to place the "magnetic variation updated by Herve Sors" again as well?

 

Regards, Jaap

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If you compare your initial NAV radio entry of course 267 to your last having applied the mag-var update you'll see it is now correct at 265.

 

You need to check for AFCAD conflicts, possibly with incorrect information.

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You need to check for AFCAD conflicts, possibly with incorrect information.

I've checked NAVIGRAPH AIRAC Data settings 1603 in FSX-SE

Perhaps there is an error in the PATH where NAVI GRAPH updates should be installed?

ScreenHunter_607Mar.2719.21.png

 

Regards, Jaap

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Thank you, i've done it a moment ago again.

ScreenHunter_607Mar.2720.15.png

and placed in:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\scenery\BASE\Scenery

 

I've to leave now, tomorrow morning i will try again.

 

Regards, Jaap

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Bear in mind that the charts and AIRAC data do not reflect the magnetic declination year on year. The AIRAC and approach charts are using a 10deg variation whereas now in 2016 and with Herve's update the figure for KPHL is 12.1deg.

 

The heading of 267 that your seeing is actually correct.

 

The FAA ground chart indicates the 12.1 deviation and runway headings of 267.6 ( 267 ), yet the approach plates haven't caught up.

 

Your 777 is indicating the correct published approach course now at 265, the indicated heading of 267 is correct as of today.

 

What doesn't look correct is your LOC offset to the right of the runway, compared to my straight in approach which is why I suggest checking for another scenery AFCAD.

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Thank you Stephen, i've switched off SunSkyJet Sceneries in FSX-SE Library

ScreenHunter_607Mar.2723.36.png

 

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The plane is now to much on the left side off the runway

 

 

Maybe PMDG menu, CORRECT LOC CRS TO FSX = OFF must be ON again?

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Good Grief! That is way below minimums?  Fly the plane, land the plane.

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Good Grief! That is way below minimums?  Fly the plane, land the plane.

+1

 

Learn how to land the plane or take up golf.

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+1

 

Learn how to land the plane or take up golf.

 

That is in my humble opinion (IMHO) a poor suggestion (in jest), but I honor your intent.  Cannot succeed in golf if you cannot hit the green!  Believe you and I both understand that golf GPS might provide the distance and direction to the pin for the shot to the green, but it will not hit the shot for you!  So you and I are playing the same club! LOL! 

 

So without question we agree! Time to learn to fly the plane yourself and land it!  Otherwise play a game.

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That is in my humble opinion (IMHO) a poor suggestion (in jest), but I honor your intent.  Cannot succeed in golf if you cannot hit the green!  Believe you and I both understand that golf GPS might provide the distance and direction to the pin for the shot to the green, but it will not hit the shot for you!  So you and I are playing the same club! LOL! 

 

So without question we agree! Time to learn to fly the plane yourself and land it!  Otherwise play a game.

He's doing a test to find why the airplane is not correctly tracking the localizer. Your comment is off topic and has no place being here. If you want to rant about people using too much automation there are other forums for that. Lots of it on pprune and a.net. The mods on a.net will back you up by temp banning anyone telling you to get off your high horses and quit using hyperbole.

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Good Grief! That is way below minimums?  Fly the plane, land the plane.

+1

 

Learn how to land the plane or take up golf.

 

These comments are out of place. The OP is trying to correct an issue with his sim which has nothing to do with being able to hand-fly the aircraft or not.

 

He's doing a test to find why the airplane is not correctly tracking the localizer. Your comment is off topic and has no place being here. If you want to rant about people using too much automation there are other forums for that. Lots of it on pprune and a.net. The mods on a.net will back you up by temp banning anyone telling you to get off your high horses and quit using hyperbole.

+1

 

I'm becoming somewhat fed-up with people on this forum always trying to prove to others what great pilots they are.

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