hahah thats awesome. So when is the version with the bugs fixed going to be out? Or will that be extra and down the line after all those other models?

It was supposed to be very impressive at the Bristol FS show!Not my type of aircraft but for those who are into military hardware why not wait to see the responses or a review before you buy.As aircraft in general are becoming more and more complex with the inevitable bugs and patches maybe holding back could be good advice whatever you purchase.Peter

>As aircraft in general are becoming more and more complex with>the inevitable bugs and patches maybe holding back could be>good advice whatever you purchase.>>PeterBut if I don't buy it right out of the gate, who will do the "final final final" testing for Captain Sim??

:-)Allcott

I bought the 104 along time ago and never was able to find support for it. Did Capt Sim ever open up a support forum?

Someone has to buy it and let us know all the problems with it, other wise we won

>I bought the 104 along time ago and never was able to find>support for it. Did Capt Sim ever open up a support forum?Foolish mortal... of course! Didn't you get the Loyalty Oath package via e-mail? :)

You gotta be kiddin me! Still no support forum. I have freeware planes that have support forums......

Not bad for a single Beta session!By "final testing" I would presume they meant to say that after they sold the Beta to unsuspecting users for "final testing".I can see the 707 all over again.Cheers,JohnBoeing 727/737 & Lockheed C-130/L-100 Mechanic

On 15 Oct 05 they announced the C-130 is in beta...on 18 Oct 05 they announce it's being uploaded for final release. Both announcements are still on the current Avsim home page right now.Decide for yourself what that might mean...1. Caveat Emptor2. Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it.3. There's one born every minute.Bob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Santiago de Chile

>On 15 Oct 05 they announced the C-130 is in beta...on 18 Oct>05 they announce it's being uploaded for final release. Both>announcements are still on the current Avsim home page right>now.>>Decide for yourself what that might mean...>>1. Caveat Emptor>2. Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it.>3. There's one born every minute.>>Bob Scott>ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300>Santiago de ChileHi Bob,I was on the beta team so I know it means the 707 all over again.Poeple, do yourselves a favour and hold off on this one until the reviews come in. And I mean user reviews who know something about the C-130 and not the five star obligatory ones. You'll be glad you did.Cheers,JohnBoeing 727/737 & Lockheed C-130/L-100 Mechanic

>Someone has to buy it and let us know all the problems with>it, other wise we won’t be able to flame captain sim and>criticize the plane pieces .I will wait for one of you>Independently wealthy guys to pay the $54 for it before I>spend my hard earned money on a captain sim product. Well, I just spent $90 on Ariane's BBJ, so maybe I could be persuaded to throw another large chunk of money down the (Captain Sim) drain and test this piece of beta-ware.My question is: where are all the people going to post their complaints, since CS (wisely, in their mind) decided to nix their forum?this should be fun.ricardo

I personally can't wait for it to come out...all the discussion makes for very entertaining reading. What a sad, sad company.

Big Al,I too was wondering when they were going to give the Beta team another crack at the many faults we pointed out to them . . . Oh, that's right, we're dealing with CS here, I guess the beta IS the final release.Sorry to sound that way however I have been on too many great beta teams and seen how they operate and don't for a minute understand how CS expects an aircraft as complicated as the 130 to get fixed with just one beta offering.scratching my old head,Clayhttp://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...ers/Dopke01.jpgClayton T. Dopke (Clay)Major, USAF (retired)"Drac"

>Sorry to sound that way however I have been on too many great>beta teams and seen how they operate and don't for a minute>understand how CS expects an aircraft as complicated as the>130 to get fixed with just one beta offering.>>scratching my old head,>Clay>>>Clayton T. Dopke (Clay)>Major, USAF (retired)>"Drac"You and me both, Clayton...ChuckC-130E/H/H1 Flight EngineerDyess AFB, TXAMD 64 3700+ | ASUS A8V Deluxe | Antec TruePower 480 PS | 1.0 gig DDR400 Corsair TwinX 3200XLC2Pro | WD 120 gig HDD | WD 80 gig HDD | Twin WD 160 gig SATA HDDs | SB Audigy 2 | ATI Radeon 9800Pro 128 | CH Products USB Yoke | CH Products USB Pedals | Nostromo n52 ] Windows XP Pro SP2[/bhttp://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/747400.jpg