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Hello,

After many many months of research, I finally decided to change from FSX to P3d. I bought it yesterday the Academic license of P3D V3.2. I just finished downloading and installing.

 

It seems that this isn't as user friendly as FSX to me. First of all, I couldn't find where the Settings are. When I load the game, it always shows Scenario Setup. I cannot find the settings. To go to settings, I always have to start the game and then go to Settings.

 

Secondly, I installed FlyTampa Dubai. It completed the installing but then got a message saying Unable to add it to scenery and to add it through the game or something which I have no idea how.

 

Third, I tried installing PMDG 737 and it says FSX installation folder not found.

 

I am deeply confused with the procedure and I am not an expert messing with the files. Is there are a good easy solution to this? 

 

In addition to that, I find p3d takes some time after loading to load the scenary and aircraft. if I pause the game and resume, aircraft is sometimes invisible. 

 

 

 

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It seems that this isn't as user friendly as FSX to me. First of all, I couldn't find where the Settings are. When I load the game, it always shows Scenario Setup. I cannot find the settings. To go to settings, I always have to start the game and then go to Settings.

 

There is an option within settings to display the scenario setup screen on login.

 

 

 


Secondly, I installed FlyTampa Dubai. It completed the installing but then got a message saying Unable to add it to scenery and to add it through the game or something which I have no idea how.

 

Sometimes happens when the Airport isn't entirely compatible.  Normally you can manual add it within the scenery manager.  Just select the install location and order correctly.

 

 

 


hird, I tried installing PMDG 737 and it says FSX installation folder not found.

 

Bad news, unless you have the P3D NGX you aren't going to get this working.  Sorry you need to buy the aircraft again for P3D and you'll be pleased to hear, it's a little more expensive. :mad:  

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Sorry, I couldn't find it? Or I don't get it? The problem is, I can't go to "Settings" page right after opening P3D. I want to be able to see the settings before I start the flight.

 

Where can I find the scenery manager? 

 

And to buy PMDG again is very disappointing as I've already spend hundreds of dollars for addons and computer parts. :(

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And to buy PMDG again is very disappointing as I've already spend hundreds of dollars for addons and computer parts. :sad:

 

They burned a lot of trust with me on that one as well.  I didn't repurchase and may never.  Going the Airbus route instead.

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Sorry, I couldn't find it? Or I don't get it? The problem is, I can't go to "Settings" page right after opening P3D. I want to be able to see the settings before I start the flight.

 

My fault for not being clear.  I am not in front of my PC.  If you want to go to the settings i.e. graphics, sounds, controls etc...  You have to start a flight.  If you want the main page to be the Select Scenario then you can enable that option within the menu option Settings > General Simulation Settings > Scenario startup screen.  

This page details those options, again sorry for not being able to provide any screen shots, not at home.

http://www.prepar3d.com/SDKv3/LearningCenter/settings/simulation/general_simulation_settings.html

 

 

 

Where can I find the scenery manager? 

 

In the options menu at the top then select "world" then "Scenery Library".  After that, it should just be "Add Area".  Select the installation directory of the scenery you want to add.

 

And to buy PMDG again is very disappointing as I've already spend hundreds of dollars for addons and computer parts.

 

Well i find myself a little conflicted about this.  While i agree with Gregg above to some extent i also understand that P3D is an entirely different sim, i think it would have been perhaps a little fairer if PMDG had charged an upgrade fee rather than full price.

 

As Gregg above says, if you have the Aerosoft Airbus that product will work in both FSX and P3D.  Any A2A products will also need repurchasing and in fact A2A are stricter than PMDG in that they care about the type of P3D license you have.

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In PMDG's defense, they did offer discount for a several weeks. Flight 1 are not shy either in charging premium pricing for P3D. Milking it ?

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After many many months of research, I finally decided to change from FSX to P3d. I bought it yesterday the Academic license of P3D V3.2. I just finished downloading and installing.

Looks like that your research wasn't quite deep enough.

Spirit

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Having to start a flight in order to alter the scenery lineup is one of the few things about the P3D UI I find inconvenient. Is there a way to access this before you fly (like FSX) or a good add-on to deal with this?

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I too view this as an irritation.  For example, if you plant your aircraft into the ground [aka crash!], you have absolutely no option but to sit back and wait for P3D to reload the default flight, which for the vast majority will be the F22 standing at RWY threshold at Eglin Air Force base. I wish that such an event would take you back to the scenario planning window rather, like when first starting the sim.

 

I recon it does not help the VAS situation either to be doing it this way, unnecessarily loading aircraft and scenery. Not that I ever crash of course.... :P

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Thank you for the replies. 

 

WotanUK. I followed your steps, thank you, it got FlyTampa Dubai working. 

 

 

Looks like that your research wasn't quite deep enough.

Spirit

Yes. I focused mainly on the game play and how it will handle on Windows 10 as I have been unable to solve FSX randomly closing on Windows 10.

 

 

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Now I am having another problem with p3d. I have an old Saitek controller. I am unable to set the throttle of it to work. All other buttons works fine and some of them I even customized. But no way was I able to make the throttle to work. And it's not a problem with the controller because it works with FSX. I hope my explanation is clear? 

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Looks like that your research wasn't quite deep enough.

 

A little unfair, some companies (Aerosoft for example) didn't charge any additional fees; others such as A2A went overboard and even charge differently for different versions of P3D.

 

 

 


Is there a way to access this before you fly...

 

You can manually edit the scenery.cfg file in notepad.  I am not sure, but perhaps something like "SimStarter" will also do allow for modifications.

 

 

 


I recon it does not help the VAS situation either to be doing it this way, unnecessarily loading aircraft and scenery. Not that I ever crash of course....

 

Yeah, i always reboot the sim after making any changes for this reason.

 

 

 


Thank you for the replies. 

 

My Pleasure. 

 

 

 


I am unable to set the throttle of it to work.

 

Have you set this within the Axis functions of P3D, so in the controls area, then select the Throttle, then axis commands, double click on the Throttle (not Throttle 1 or 2) then simply move the Throttle?

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I too view this as an irritation.  For example, if you plant your aircraft into the ground [aka crash!], you have absolutely no option but to sit back and wait for P3D to reload the default flight, which for the vast majority will be the F22 standing at RWY threshold at Eglin Air Force base. I wish that such an event would take you back to the scenario planning window rather, like when first starting the sim.

 

I recon it does not help the VAS situation either to be doing it this way, unnecessarily loading aircraft and scenery. Not that I ever crash of course.... :P

 

 

Which is one of the reasons most people afaik disable damage and crashes. The whole damage model in P3D is mediocre at best anyway. And I always advice everyone to make a default flight of their own too, which also takes (some) care of the problem of ending up with the F22 at Eglin.

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Well i find myself a little conflicted about this. While i agree with Gregg above to some extent i also understand that P3D is an entirely different sim, i think it would have been perhaps a little fairer if PMDG had charged an upgrade fee rather than full price.

As Gregg above says, if you have the Aerosoft Airbus that product will work in both FSX and P3D. Any A2A products will also need repurchasing and in fact A2A are stricter than PMDG in that they care about the type of P3D license you have.

 

That's true and fair.  Bottom line is they can charge what they want and say what they want...it's their business and that's entirely that.  On the other hand, I don't have to buy it again and first $60 and then $90 more was just too much and it bugged me that they didn't seem to put significant value in previous purchasers.  With the Airbus...not as detailed but really nice...it's within my budget.  With A2A you can buy a package with both installers for a very small upgrade.  Having said that, I did buy the 777 so I'm more cautious with them but still a customer for other planes.

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Have you set this within the Axis functions of P3D, so in the controls area, then select the Throttle, then axis commands, double click on the Throttle (not Throttle 1 or 2) then simply move the Throttle?

 

Thank you so much. It worked.

 

However, I am at a point where I am almost ready to give up P3D. I will make the final decision when my new graphics card arrives. Right now I have a Sapphire Radeon R7 240 2GB DDR3. My processor is a Intel Core i5-4590. I won't be upgrading my processor anytime sooon but I today ordered for a EVGA GeForce GTX 970 graphics card. If this does not improve the frame rate, I will give up the whole thing and move on. I've already spend so much money for the FSX/P3D Project to perfect it. 

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However, I am at a point where I am almost ready to give up P3D.

 

I know that feeling friend...but it's just a case of turning features down in order to get the best frame rate.  I am running a mid-range rig and at UK2000 EGLLv3 with the PMDG 777 i end up getting about 12fps.

 

Have a look at some of the excellent guides available, i believe that Rob from here has a pretty good guide (he does have a monster rig though).  I am quite sure that you will find a setting that works for you.

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Hang in there MrCube - I'd venture a guess that every P3D user has had that feeling. I actually sent it back when I first tried it - didn't have the patience. Then, seeing how many people were talkinh about how great it was, I tried again - this time I went slowly and started from scratch.

 

Haven't looked back since - it IS worth the effort - just remember to throw away most of what you did in FSX and start fresh - little or no tweaking is NECESSARY - get it smooth and stable first - then play with fine tuning.

 

Vic

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Everyone  (including myself) has this syndrome:

 

IQ Envy.

 

They read about someone running P3d with all the Image Quality settings slammed to the floorboards and they can't cope with not being able to also do the same. It's human nature.

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The funny thing Jay is that I've read about these systems but I've actually never seen one. I've come close on some of mine but when I read all sliders slammed and getting 60 frames across 3 monitors in a TStorm - I get a tad suspicious.

 

:smile:

 

Vic

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I wish that such an event would take you back to the scenario planning window rather, like when first starting the sim.

 

I recon it does not help the VAS situation either to be doing it this way, unnecessarily loading aircraft and scenery. Not that I ever crash of course.... :P

Just switch crash detection off. You will know when it happens. And for landing performance there are tools such as The Lord of The Landing

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The funny thing Jay is that I've read about these systems but I've actually never seen one....

There's always "tomorrow". One of these days, there will be hardware which will effortlessly run P3d maxed out.

 

What bugs me is I can run P3d with almost every slider to the far right, except for Building Autogen. Every time I look at that slider, I feel like LM has stolen something of value from me. I deserve better. ;-)

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Having to start a flight in order to alter the scenery lineup is one of the few things about the P3D UI I find inconvenient. Is there a way to access this before you fly (like FSX) or a good add-on to deal with this?

 SIMStarter is what you are looking for. It has a lot of utility and needs some study for familiarization but its an awesome program and its freeware :smile:

 

http://aviation.pero-online.de/wordpress/?page_id=105

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The funny thing Jay is that I've read about these systems but I've actually never seen one. I've come close on some of mine but when I read all sliders slammed and getting 60 frames across 3 monitors in a TStorm - I get a tad suspicious.

 

:smile:

 

Vic

Most of us understand that it's pretty easy to witness frame rates >60 if you prefer to fly out in the sticks rather than dense urban or airport areas. It's all about balance and accepting what is and what is not possible and being prepared to move some of those sliders back a notch from time to time. In fact I prefer the set-it-and-forget-it approach rather than be forever fiddling. I have to accept there will occasionally be some downsides but I can improve things temporarily by simply switching off VSync. Clearly my rig does allow a wider range of possibilities, but I too can be frame rate challenged though not very often ;)

 

Mike

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Most of us understand that it's pretty easy to witness frame rates >60 if you prefer to fly out in the sticks rather than dense urban or airport areas. It's all about balance and accepting what is and what is not possible and being prepared to move some of those sliders back a notch from time to time. In fact I prefer the set-it-and-forget-it approach rather than be forever fiddling. I have to accept there will occasionally be some downsides but I can improve things temporarily by simply switching off VSync. Clearly my rig does allow a wider range of possibilities, but I too can be frame rate challenged though not very often ;)

Mike

 

Best thing I ever did was turn off the FPS counter. The Acars in my VA averages every flight I do, and I look at it after landing, to check trends. As long as I am averaging around 30 FPS I am happy. 

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Haha, Said it before and I'll say it again. 30fps at 30hz is the key to silky smooth game play and lots of eye candy. :smile:

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SIMStarter is what you are looking for. It has a lot of utility and needs some study for familiarization but its an awesome program and its freeware :smile:

 

http://aviation.pero-online.de/wordpress/?page_id=105

As is Maarten Boelens' excellent SimLauncher X:

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/453567-simlauncherx-the-freeware-tool-everyone-has-been-waiting-for/

 

Fully compatible with P3D v3.2. Doubtless Maarten will soon have an update for 3.3, if he hasn't already.

 

Regards,

Mike

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