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Aircraft initialisation failure

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Hello

I would like some advice please.

When I open FSX Steam Edition, as soon as the initial screen appears I get the following message box.

            Aircraft initialisation failure

            IFly 747-400 AF.

 

Please Note; I do not have this aircraft in the Steam Edition.

However it is in my boxed version of FSX, which is in its own Folder. C:\ FSX.

I click on close; and the loading continues to the Steam FSX Home page and” Free Flight” Where I get the same message box again. After closing that message the current aircraft page has a black panel where an aircraft should be.

If I change Aircraft it loads Cold & Dark with empty fuel tanks.

Saving it with full fuel tanks makes no difference, it always loads in the same condition.

This problem only occurred since I bought the Embraer feelThere Phenonm 100 from Steam.

 At first I thought the problem may be caused by the Phenom Configuration Tool which I have now deleted, but that made no difference.

 

While this is not a major problem, it never used to do this.

The Aircraft initialisation failure concerns me more.

It does not affect loading the Learjet45 (Using the load button), only if I Change to that aircraft when that also loads Cold & Dark with no Fuel.

I understood the two versions of FSX were separate, but it seems they are not.

 

Can someone help with this, I do not wish to delete the Steam version and start again because of its download size.

I don’t mind deleting the Phenonm 100 if necessary.

Note: the Boxed FSX is working alright I normally fly the early version  iFly 747-400 which has its problems, but I can get around those; and always start Cold & Dark but it does have an overhead panel and FMC etc.

Thanks for reading this.

 

Corrie

United Kingdom.

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Kind of sounds like both Sims are sharing a "saved" default flight.

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I agree Charliearon. But I have no idea how to fix it. FSX-SE is finding the iFly 747-400 from FSX somehow and messing up other aircraft as well.

Thanks for the interest

Corrie

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[uSERINTERFACE]
ShowAllACPaintSchemes=1
SelectAircraftManufacturer=All
SelectAircraftPublisher=All
SelectAircraftType=All
PageID=1
OpenATCOnCreate=0
SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=1
PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=0
PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1
SITUATION=c:\documents and settings\owner\my documents\flight simulator x files\Real Deal Deafult Flight.FLT <-----
Map_Orientation=0
DisplayFuelAsWeight=0
 

 

 

Look at the line the arrow points to in both your FSX.cfg and FSX-SE.cfg and see if they match.

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Thank you but the problem still exists. I can't find the FSX-SE cfg file; so i guess both FSX and FSX-SE are using the same FSX cfg file. I also only just noticed the boxed FSX has lost all of the Boeing 747-400s except the iFly 747s.

Normally I only fly the iFly one. They are still listed in the aircraft cfg file. Have also checked integrity of game on steam.

 

Corrie

 

 

Windows 10

3.3 GHz Core i5 4460. 8GB. GeForce GTX 950

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Have you added or changed the panel at all in the 747-400 folder in the boxed version and forget to make

 

the proper change to the panel= line for each livery?  That will make them disappear on the Aircraft

 

Selection page.  If your default flight uses a 747-400 and none are seen, it will choose the next available

 

747 which is the IFly one.

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Have You tried Here ??

 

C:\users\User Name\Appdata\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX SE

 

Johnman  B)

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Hi Charliearon

I missed your Post this morning somehow.

The CFG file has got the Panel= on all the 747-400 aircraft but they still do not show

Example

[fltsim.7]

title=Boeing 747-400 Martinair Cargo

sim=Boeing747-400

model=

panel=

sound=

texture=MAR

kb_checklists=Boeing747-400_check

kb_reference=Boeing747-400_ref

atc_id=PH-MPP

atc_airline=Martinair

atc_flight_number=100

atc_heavy=1

atc_parking_types=CARGO,RAMP

ui_manufacturer="Boeing"

ui_type="747-400"

ui_variation="Martinair"

ui_typerole="Commercial Airliner"

ui_createdby="Microsoft Corporation"

 

Thanks

Corrie

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Usually the things that make default aircraft disappear from the Selection screen would be missing panel folder or

 

a missing texture folder or misnamed texture/panel folder.  Check your 747-400 folder to make sure you have a

 

panel folder (with stuff in it) and the folder is called panel.  Make sure you have a texture folder (correctly named)

 

for each [fltsim.x] in you aircraft.cfg.

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Hi Johnman

Yes. It only has the fsx cfg file

Thank you

Corrie

 

Hi, Corrie,

 

The fsx config file in

C:\users\[user Name]\Appdata\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX-SE should be named "fsx_se.cfg" not "fsx.cfg".  I have both versions of FSX installed and that is how it is named in my setup.  Did you by any chance copy the fsx.cfg file from  C:\users\[user Name]\Appdata\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX over to the equivalent FSX-SE folder?

 

In addition to possibly pointing to the FSX:MS (Box) startup situation, it sounds like the FSX.cfg file is also pointing to the .../Simobjects/airplanes folder in FSX:MS instead of FSX:SE.  But FSX:SE won't be able to load those FSX:MS aircraft since a number of files will be missing (such as gauges).

 

What happens if you backup and delete the fsx.cfg file in the fsx-se folder and let it rebuild on startup of FSX:SE (Steam)? 

 

Mike

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Hey Corrie,

 

When You installed FSX SE, Did You install as Administrator ??, Also when You Installed, did You have Your virus Scan Disabled ??. The reason I ask is, You must have an FSX SE "Folder", Under "Appdata" for the FSX SE.cfg "File" to go in,other wise You are Probably looking at an Uninstall/ Reinstall . And believe Me, Your virus Scan can Give You FITS, if its on During an Install !!, Good Luck - Johnman  B) 

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I just run FSX-SE exclusively, and the only fsx.cfg is the one for FSX, not FSX-SE, in AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\fsx.cfg, if that is of any help, Corrie.

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Hey Corrie,

Your Installation has Got to be Cross Wired, I would Certainly Try an Uninstall/ Reinstall, as Administrator, and with Your virus Scan OFF, For FSX SE only ! You Need to be gett'in to Enjoy Your Flight Sim !! - Johnman B)

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Your Installation has Got to be Cross Wired, I would Certainly Try an Uninstall/ Reinstall, as Administrator, and with Your virus Scan OFF, For FSX SE only ! You Need to be gett'in to Enjoy Your Flight Sim !!

 

Much easier to backup and delete the FSX.cfg file in the FSX Steam appdata subfolder as given earlier.  Corrie, PLEASE try that first.  It's much simpler and it just might fix things.

 

 

 


I just run FSX-SE exclusively, and the only fsx.cfg is the one for FSX, not FSX-SE, in AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\fsx.cfg, if that is of any help, Corrie.

 

FSX:SE installs differently if it does not detect FSX Box present.  It doesn't create an appdata ... FSX-SE folder and it doesn't name the cfg file FSX_SE.cfg.  But it should have done both for his dual install.

 

Mike

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FSX:SE installs differently if it does not detect FSX Box present. It doesn't create an appdata .

But I did install FSX Gold first, then re-installed FSX-SE, then after verifying the aircraft I wanted working in FSX-SE did work, I removed FSX Gold.

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But I did install FSX Gold first, then re-installed FSX-SE, then after verifying the aircraft I wanted working in FSX-SE did work, I removed FSX Gold.

 

Hi, Rick,

 

Are you sure you didn't reinstall FSX-SE after you uninstalled FSX Gold? 

 

I suppose it's possible that Steam detects that the existing Box version of FSX was uninstalled and then modifies its folder & file names, but somehow I doubt it.  If Steam had used the same folder and fsx.cfg file names when you still had Gold installed, I think it would have made a mess of your system -- fsx.cfg pointing to the wrong ...simobjects/airplanes folder for example.  It would have  also caused scenery problems if it shared the scenery.cfg file.

 

Mike

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No

 


Are you sure you didn't reinstall FSX-SE after you uninstalled FSX Gold?

 

Hi Mike

 

To  clarify. I originally did have a stand-alone FSX-SE. Only reason I installed FSX Gold was to get back into flying my favourite PMDG MD-11. But as I prefer FSX-SE, I then after uninstalling it prior to installing FSX-Gold, re-installed it, tentatively, to see if the MD-11 still functioned under FSX-SE, as it had not done so under the previous a purely FSX-SE installation.

 

Once I had it confirmed that it was now functioning properly in FSX-SE, as I no longer wanted a side-by-side FSX Gold, I uninstalled it, not sure if the MD-11 would still work flawlessly, but it did.

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To clarify. I originally did have a stand-alone FSX-SE. Only reason I installed FSX Gold was to get back into flying my favourite PMDG MD-11. But as I prefer FSX-SE, I then after uninstalling it prior to installing FSX-Gold, re-installed it, tentatively, to see if the MD-11 still functioned under FSX-SE, as it had not done so under the previous a purely FSX-SE installation.

Once I had it confirmed that it was now functioning properly in FSX-SE, as I no longer wanted a side-by-side FSX Gold, I uninstalled it, not sure if the MD-11 would still work flawlessly, but it did.

 

Hi, Rick,

 

I can only guess that the installer, during the second install of FSX-SE, mistakenly kept the information from the first FSX-SE install, and so did not detect that Gold was also present.  So it used the same folder and file names as FSX Gold.  My guess is that it overwrote important files like fsx.cfg, dll.xml, scenery.cfg on the second install.  So one question:  Did you ever try to run Gold after you reinstalled Steam (the second install with Gold still installed)?

 

Many of the problems with installing older addons like the MD-11 have to do with the new folder names FSX-Steam installs.  The older installers just don't know about them.  They usually require dll files, and the correct address for each dll file is entered in dll.xml, found in appdata ... FSX (or FSX-SE).  If the installer doesn't know about FSX-SE  it won't find the correct dll.xml file. 

 

The other problem with older aircraft is they need older versions of simconnect.  FSX-SE comes with them but doesn't install them.  They have to be installed manually.  My guess is that the MD-11 initially didn't work because of simconnect.  When you installed Gold it installed the older simconnects.  Because the Steam folder and file names were the same as those of Gold (ironically because of a mistake in the Steam installation side-by-side with Gold!)  the MD-11 installer found the correct installation folders and files.  Or maybe the MD-11 installer didn't recognize the different version of the fsx.exe file.

 

However there have also been quite a few reports of registry errors -- I even experienced one -- involving incorrect locations for one or both versions appearing in the registry, caused most likely by the Steam installation.  So it's amazing to me that, with your multiple installations of Steam, everything is still working!

 

Mike

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Hi Mike

 

Yes good points about the simconnects and I know all about their manual implementation.

 

And you're on the ball with those DLL blips because I could not find any solution-----including a PM exchanged with a leading PMDG person-----to the MD-11 toppling over in FSX-SE all centred on those DLLs. So, in the end, I decided as I knew for sure the MD-11 did work in FSX Gold long before SE saw the light of the day, I'd uninstall SE, install Gold, the re-install SE, and finally, once I had the MD-11 where I wanted it to be, remove Gold.

 

I too initially went down that road of a possible Registry error, and using Flight1's Registry Tool, tried that, but it did not do the trick, which is why I decided to look for a hopeful solution in the above.

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Let Me Stress, Install with Admin Privileges, and virus Scan Off - Johnman B)

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Hi all

Charliearon had the fix.

Somehow the panel file had got renamed, I fixed that and now have all my  boeing 747 aircraft.

That is still a mystery because the file date was 23/01/2016 (UK date) and it was working until a week or so ago.

In Steam I renamed the FSX cfg file X-cfg and allowed it to rebuild the cfg file.

My Aircraft initialisation failure is now fixed.

Thank you to every one who helped.

Corrie

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