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FPS Problems With the Phenom 300

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I just bought the jet last night and have been looking forward to flying it. The problem is my frame rate is from 0.9fps-3.0fps. I have the copilot screen off, so that's my 3 fps. My config file is barely touched. Only with a few adjustments to certain areas that are in this link (link removed by admin).  I have Orbx Global and vector, also I have Rex texture Direct and Soft Cloud. Plus some freeware scenery. For my rig I have a 4790k processor. EVGA 970 graphics card. 16GB of ram. I feel like I should try and get my money back so the wife wont be too mad that i bought a plane that I cant fly. So can anyone help me with this, or have a suggestion as to what I should do? Thanks in advanced.

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Hi,

    I have had this a/c for quite a while & the frame rates are not an issue. Depending where I fly I am getting well above 30 on avg. I kind of stay away from socal at present orbyx oom issues. But my fps are okay in that area.I guess I could move my sliders to a much lower setting to avoid the oom but I don't.My rig is similar to yours except that I do not have Vector installed & I have a 980ti card& 32GB system ram I would try disabling everything in vector except the roads My 4790 is overclocked to 4.6ghz.You should be able to achieve much better frame rates with your system.Oh by the way I don't have any tweaks in my p3dv3 cfg file. Try going with a stock cfg file & see what happens. From experience I have tried tweaks & my sim seems to run much better without them.

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I moved all the sliders down to pretty much nothing and i manged to get 6fps now. I'll try disabling everything in vector and give an update.

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Some users have reported that the Carenavigraph.dll file in the FSX/P3D folder greatly affects performance.

 

Try adding  .off  to the file name as a test.

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Also try  with a stock cfg file.Moving the slider to really low settings  shouldn't be required. Mine are about 3/4 to the right on everything.

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I moved all the sliders down to pretty much nothing and i manged to get 6fps now. I'll try disabling everything in vector and give an update.

That's pretty much impossible and something major is wrong with your computer or your installation.  The link you provided was removed as that guide is not allowed here (member was banned) and his settings are pretty much out of sight.  Even he admitted some of his settings are way too high. 

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ahhh gotcha. I use to have the venetubo cfg file with tweaks in it. Ive gone back to my Original cfg file. I might end up re-downloading the plane again. It does take a few mins for it to show up after i select the aircraft on the main free flight page.

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We have an excellent review of the Phenom 300 done by our reviewer, Ray Marshall and he did not indicate any issues like you are reporting.  Tweaks, like those that came from Venetubo are really not needed today and your system is a little bit more powerful than mine.  There are many YouTube tutorials on how to fly this aircraft and set it up too and they indicate no problems.  In fact, mostly the opposite.  High settings are not needed for awesome graphics for this aircraft.  Check out the review and some of the great tutorials or flights with this aircraft.  Is it perfect?  No.  Like the Phenom 100, they will soon be upgrading this aircraft to 2.0 too but it still won't be "perfect" or really frame rate friendly.  It will all depend on what else you loaded and what you are flying over plus your fsx/p3d.cfg settings.  Are you using it in P3D or FSX? 

 

Best regards,

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I've checked out the tutorials and how to start up, plus flights in the plane all done by FS Mania on youtube, which made my decision to buy it. Im on fsx. I've taken out the venetubo and put back the original cfg file. I just re-downloaded the plane and still getting 3fps with the engines running. When I go to cold and dark I get 6fps. I'm still going to see what I can do to fix it.. I have orbx global &vector, Rex text direct and soft clouds. 

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Check your main FSX folder and see if you can find a Carenavigraph.dll file in it.

 

Use search..

 

If you find it, add .off to the name as a test.

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Carenavigraph.dll.off  WORKED!!!. thank you Bert. Im now getting my 30fps. Going to up the sliders a bit. I'm happier than a fat kid at a candy store. I've had aout a 6pack while trying to figure this out lol

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Glad you got it working.

I have no problems with using Caranavigraph.dll, so I'm curious.

 

If you right click on carenavigraph.dll and select properties -> General; does it say  Unblock at the bottom?

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No it doesn't say unblock anywhere.

Ok, thanks for looking.

Still curious as to why some users are having problems with that dll.

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when i left click on it to open it. It brings up a box saying something like there is nothing in the file. Something along those lines lol

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Once you renamed it to .off it became an unknown file type to the FS, so it would not know how to open it or associate it with a program.

 

Renaming it to .dll would turn it back to a Dynamic Link Library, then right clicking on it  and choosing properties would show the Unblock Button (if in fact the file was blocked by the OS during download, or more properly the ZIP file downloaded from Carenado)

 

Thanks for looking.

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Took the (.off) off of it. Still got no unblock button anywhere.

Thanks again.

There goes one theory.

 

Sometimes the OS/FS places some security flags on downloaded files (zip, exe, etc) to protect the system from potentially harmful files that came from the internet  There are 3 levels low, med, high; the latter 2 cause a security prompt when you try to access them, and high won't run. But the low level ones don't.So when you unzip and execute the installer causes all unzipped files to inherit those security flags.  winch can prevent proper functioning like access or writing to them.

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Carenavigraph.dll.off  WORKED!!!. thank you Bert. Im now getting my 30fps. Going to up the sliders a bit. I'm happier than a fat kid at a candy store. I've had aout a 6pack while trying to figure this out lol

 

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Carenavigraph.dll.off  WORKED!!!. thank you Bert. Im now getting my 30fps. Going to up the sliders a bit. I'm happier than a fat kid at a candy store. I've had aout a 6pack while trying to figure this out lol

But, but, you have no navdata if you turn that .dll off!  The aircraft is completely useless w/o navdata.  I found absolutely no change to my frame rates or the amount of VAS with this change.  This indicates to me you do not have Navigraph installed properly as the system cannot find the files it needs.  Do you have the carenavigraph.db in the CarenadoNavigraph folder? 

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Then your navdata should have been installed properly.  Your dll.xml should have an entry in it to load the carenavigraph.dll at startup.  If you don't want any navdata or you want to install the $50 GTN 750 instead, then you should remove the entry from the dll.xml (if it is there).

 

Best regards,

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theres no entry in the dll.xml. im re-downlaoding the navigraph extension. maybe it was a corrupt download

The following topic will explain that the Phenom300 will not install into P3Dv3 so I explained how to do it in the following topic - http://www.avsim.com/topic/475719-prepar3d-version-3/.  It also shows the required entry for the dll.xml. 

 

Since it will install into P3Dv2, some have created a folder called P3Dv2 and then instructed the installer there (same goes with the Navigraph Extension).  Then they move the files over to the folders in V3.  It will create a dll.xml in a folder in your Roaming/Lockheed Martin/Prepar3Dv2 folder.  You just need to copy and paste the entry into the one in the V3 folder.  It will be updated when v2.0 of the Phenom 300 is released.  Meanwhile, everyone needs to do some manual installation.

 

EDIT:  Forgot to add, you can also rename the P3Dv3 folder to P3Dv2.  Then it should install properly into that folder.  After installation, you can rename it back to P3Dv3.

 

Best regards,

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