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VFR in 7.2 BETA - help?

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Folks,

 

Anyone have any issues with VFR flights when trying to contact Utopia radio I get no response back.  Everything seems ok up to that point.  I get clearance,  ground and then asked to contact 122.2 - but then nothing.  My callsign is setup for GA and everything appears in order with the flight plan itself.   

 

Please let me know if anyone else is experiencing this issue or lead me to what I may be doing wrong.

 

Thanks

Tony

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52 Views of this thread and nobody fly's VFR with VOX 7.2 ?

Tony I fly almost exclusively VFR, but I'm not clearly understanding from your posts what exactly youre doing, where youre flying, how youve set your flight up, what addons youre using and what exactly the behaviour of vox is that is wrong for you. Without that info I' just be shooting in the dark and I'm afraid I dont have time for that. PM me a flightplan, an error log, and some good descriptive details and I'll try to replicate your issues... K

Edit: what do you mean by Utopia radio, thats not something ive ever come across?

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Utopia radio is a generic FSS.  If Vox thinks there is no FSS in your area it has you open and close your flight plan with Utopia radio at 122.2

 

I only know this because I was confused by it when I first started using Vox ATC.

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Utopia radio is a generic FSS.  If Vox thinks there is no FSS in your area it has you open and close your flight plan with Utopia radio at 122.2

 

I only know this because I was confused by it when I first started using Vox ATC.

I fly only in the UK, and I have scenery for every large and GA airfield across the country, together with airspace definitions that are current to real world specs - so every destination I might go has at least a soecified ground to air radio freq, hence I've never come across it! Cheers K

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I fly only in the UK, and I have scenery for every large and GA airfield across the country, together with airspace definitions that are current to real world specs - so every destination I might go has at least a soecified ground to air radio freq, hence I've never come across it! Cheers K

 

I fly only in the UK, and I have scenery for every large and GA airfield across the country, together with airspace definitions that are current to real world specs - so every destination I might go has at least a soecified ground to air radio freq, hence I've never come across it! Cheers K

 

Well, I think Vox has a bug in this regard as I always fly inside ORBX regions and my home airport KUAO in Aurora Oregon USA would use the MCMinville FSS IRL but Vox sends me to utopia instead. Vox knows about the McMinville FSS cause other airports in the general area cause Vox to have me contact McMinville FSS.

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Utopia radio is a generic FSS.  If Vox thinks there is no FSS in your area it has you open and close your flight plan with Utopia radio at 122.2

 

I only know this because I was confused by it when I first started using Vox ATC.

 

Kent,

 

Have you had any issues with 7.2 where they did not respond to your transmission?  Maybe I'm not phrasing the contact info correctly?  I'm just repeating what VOX is telling me to say on initial call and never get a response.

 

Thanks

Tony

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Tony, I have not had a chance to tryout 7.2. I've had that happen with 6.52; seems to be locked up Vox pop voice. I've never had it happen with "regular" voices so I stopped using the Vox voices.

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Tony, I have not had a chance to tryout 7.2. I've had that happen with 6.52; seems to be locked up Vox pop voice. I've never had it happen with "regular" voices so I stopped using the Vox voices.

 

Great thanks - I use a mix of Ivona and Vox - I will remove VOX and see what happens.  

 

Kevin - Yes, I've trained recently and same result.

 

Tony

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I also fly almost exclusively VFR. I have found FSS to be very spotty in terms of behaving differently at different airports. I have had an issue at towered airports where I get permission to taxi from ground, am prompted to contact FSS, and when I do so, Ground instructs me to contact the Tower, even though I have not left the ramp. After the instruction to contact the Tower the prompt still reads, Tune to 122.2 (or whatever the local FSS frequency is.) After I do that, I am usually not able to open my flight plan, due to no response from FSS (yes, I have trained my voice recognition, which works well with other programs, including 6.52)If I follow the prompts I remain in a never ending loop between ground, tower, and FSS. I can get out of the loop by ignoring the prompt, skipping FSS, contacting the Tower, requesting takeoff, and when far enough away from the airfield, reset VoxATC (not the perfect solution).

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I also fly almost exclusively VFR. I have found FSS to be very spotty in terms of behaving differently at different airports. I have had an issue at towered airports where I get permission to taxi from ground, am prompted to contact FSS, and when I do so, Ground instructs me to contact the Tower, even though I have not left the ramp. After the instruction to contact the Tower the prompt still reads, Tune to 122.2 (or whatever the local FSS frequency is.) After I do that, I am usually not able to open my flight plan, due to no response from FSS (yes, I have trained my voice recognition, which works well with other programs, including 6.52)If I follow the prompts I remain in a never ending loop between ground, tower, and FSS. I can get out of the loop by ignoring the prompt, skipping FSS, contacting the Tower, requesting takeoff, and when far enough away from the airfield, reset VoxATC (not the perfect solution).

 

 

So my issue is happening elsewhere which makes me feel better and thanks Mad_Mac for the workaround.   Hope the developer is reading these posts and maybe it can be addressed.  

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So my issue is happening elsewhere which makes me feel better and thanks Mad_Mac for the workaround.   Hope the developer is reading these posts and maybe it can be addressed.  

Has everyone reported their issue to Tegwyn? (You can't assume he will come here and read these posts I'm afraid - although I don't know whether he does or not)

 

When you report an issue, please make sure you include the simulator version in use; your flightplan; Addons in use; a description of the problem encountered (as detailed as possible( and a copy of the error log (accessed in Vox advanced settings)!

 

Cheers K

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Feast or famine with FSS response. I've often had no response from FSS. Today I called Utopia Radio 122.2. It was supposed to be Riverside Radio 122.1. I had no less than 3 FSS stations (Riverside, San Diego, and Hawthorne Radio all offer to Open my flight plan. (All are not terribly far from (but not close enough to) Big Bear City, my departure airport. 3 is better than none ;), and yes, I have reported this to Tegwyn.

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Just to follow up with the on-going issues people are having:

 

I have the same problem of (non) contact with FSS when attempting to open a VFR flightplan.  I haven't found any way to get around this issue, it won't get past this step no matter what I've tried.

 

I have problems when approaching the destination field, I get no handoff to the CTAF or approach frequency at the appropriate time. I do continue getting traffic advisories, but no handoff, ever.

 

I continue to experience issues with vox not complying with add-on afcads. This is very strange behavior because it is hit or miss whether it will follow the updated afcad, specifically, taxi instructions, approaches, and even basic airport info. EG, I have updated KMTH, Florida Keys Marathon Airport. I have the airport name as simply 'Marathon" yet vox always refers to it as "Florida Keys Marathon", which is the default name. Of course, I run the indexer every time I change anything involving scenery or aircraft. This is just an example, it does this on other airports as well. There is definitely something wrong with the indexer and I have reported it to Tegwyn, along with these other issues.

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Jaybird,

 

As long as we keep reporting the issues to Tegwyn,  all we can hope is that he will address with the next beta.  Thanks for your feedback.

 

Crossing fingers.

:sorry:

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I know this won't work at every airport, but I was departing Menomonie Municipal Score airport in Wisconsin. The prompt said to tune to Utopia Radio 122.2. I tried it and it didn't work (fairly common experience). I then tried tuning to the actual FSS for the airport, Green Bay Radio 122.65 and was able to open my flight plan that way. The prompt continued to read, "Tune to Utopia Radio 122.2," but I ignored it and pressed on in "Expert mode." I was able to contact Minneapolis Center on the correct frequency 125.3, ask for Traffic advisories, received handoffs along the way, including a handoff to Milwaukee approach as I neared my destination. I still had trouble getting handed off from Approach to West Bend Unicom (destination airport) I was able to request a frequency change to 122.8 (West Bend Unicom), get airport information, notify traffic of my intentions enter the pattern and land. I was also able to close my flight plan on Green Bay Radio 122.1 (The correct frequency for West Bend). Seems like more of a problem with the Prompt than VoxATC, which actually performed pretty well on this flight.

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Has everyone reported their issue to Tegwyn? (You can't assume he will come here and read these posts I'm afraid - although I don't know whether he does or not)

 

When you report an issue, please make sure you include the simulator version in use; your flightplan; Addons in use; a description of the problem encountered (as detailed as possible( and a copy of the error log (accessed in Vox advanced settings)!

 

Cheers K

 

One thing to point out is that in the log is both the prompt and what was interpreted, so you can confirm that what you said is what VOXATC is processing.    (Yes I have submitted the log with the "VOXATC hangs after trying to hail Utiopia radio" issue.)     Just wish there was a way of enabling a "more detailed" logging level that would indicate why VOXATC hangs just after calling Utopia radio [aka generic FSS] at 122.2.  The extra "locating FSS", "setting up FSS," etc. log entries would help in debugging by indicating the various processing states.   Drawbacks is the extra code needed to be added, as well as the exposure of some of the design of VOXATC, so maybe the compromise is to do just output a numeric code at each major step.   Hmmm... anyone have any ideas on how to get the log to help both Tegwyn as well as us?

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