July 18, 20178 yr Experienced the second crash so far with Prepar3d V4 (admittedly, after several weeks of use since release). I really do find it ridiculous that we simmers are still suffering crashes from a decade old program (which is really all Prepar3d is along with a few updates and $60-$200 charges), but enough with my rant. I realize this is a complex program and an infinite amount of complications that can be caused by addons and interactions etc. Anyway, this one occurred 6 hours into my 11 hour KSEA-ZBAA flight. I simply heard a stutter from the engines before seeing the sim screen go foggy and being greeted with the (Prepar3d is not responding) crash message, leaving me with only the option to close the program. Nothing was being touched or used at the time of the crash Addons Used: PMDG 777-200LR, Active Sky 2016 + ASCA, PTA 2.52 (newest), ReShade, GSX, Chaseplane, FTX Global, FSDreamteam KJFK and Imaginesim ZSPD (both not used in this flight since route was KSEA-ZBAA) Latest version of Prepar3d v4 Any ideas? Thanks LOG Version=1 EventType=APPCRASH EventTime=131448185166537334 ReportType=2 Consent=1 UploadTime=131448185172108901 ReportStatus=268435456 ReportIdentifier=4a82f765-7e34-4062-b830-6ae51321b0be IntegratorReportIdentifier=ba6994b2-af44-4d66-80e6-00ac2f5fc4f8 Wow64Host=34404 NsAppName=Prepar3D.exe AppSessionGuid=00002c9c-0004-0013-9836-34b234ffd201 TargetAppId=W:0000866ac7dc4c86070bc5133136f5166e7300000904!0000604a7eba7010301df84834a470a2dc1946398e5a!Prepar3D.exe TargetAppVer=2017//06//21:13:19:17!2dc5a4!Prepar3D.exe BootId=4294967295 TargetAsId=6743 Response.BucketId=4a5c27c336271dea2231478d6c28ccf2 Response.BucketTable=4 Response.LegacyBucketId=120789136181 Response.type=4 Sig[0].Name=Application Name Sig[0].Value=Prepar3D.exe Sig[1].Name=Application Version Sig[1].Value=4.0.28.21686 Sig[2].Name=Application Timestamp Sig[2].Value=594a7255 Sig[3].Name=Fault Module Name Sig[3].Value=StackHash_f04d Sig[4].Name=Fault Module Version Sig[4].Value=10.0.15063.447 Sig[5].Name=Fault Module Timestamp Sig[5].Value=a329d3a8 Sig[6].Name=Exception Code Sig[6].Value=c0000374 Sig[7].Name=Exception Offset Sig[7].Value=PCH_AD_FROM_ntdll+0x00000000000A5EF4 DynamicSig[1].Name=OS Version DynamicSig[1].Value=10.0.15063.2.0.0.768.101 DynamicSig[2].Name=Locale ID DynamicSig[2].Value=1033 DynamicSig[22].Name=Additional Information 1 DynamicSig[22].Value=f04d DynamicSig[23].Name=Additional Information 2 DynamicSig[23].Value=f04d669b620c98ba4a740d38bfbad151 DynamicSig[24].Name=Additional Information 3 DynamicSig[24].Value=4489 DynamicSig[25].Name=Additional Information 4 DynamicSig[25].Value=44897abb5047a399ff26860ff314661b UI[2]=C:\Prepar3d V4\Prepar3D.exe UI[3]=Prepar3D exe has stopped working UI[4]=Windows can check online for a solution to the problem. 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July 18, 20178 yr It's not the "decades old program" (which is not even close, considering all the revisions to the graphics engine). As you stated clearly, it's far more likely that the combination of add-ons that you listed is the cause of the error, which is heap corruption. This means that something caused the sim to write to location in memory where it was not allowed to do so. Jim Young will probably be along to give you more detailed guidance, but suffice it to say that you will have to methodologically disable all the add-ons and then add them back one by one to see which one is causing the CTD. I would start with ChasePlane, Reshade, GSX and PTA, in that order. We are all prisoners of the open architecture that's used in P3d.
July 18, 20178 yr It's just over one month old, Prepar3d V4 is 64 bit, a completely new build. what settings did you have, is your system capable of high settings under 64 bit.
July 18, 20178 yr Author 3 hours ago, jabloomf1230 said: It's not the "decades old program" (which is not even close, considering all the revisions to the graphics engine). As you stated clearly, it's far more likely that the combination of add-ons that you listed is the cause of the error, which is heap corruption. This means that something caused the sim to write to location in memory where it was not allowed to do so. Jim Young will probably be along to give you more detailed guidance, but suffice it to say that you will have to methodologically disable all the add-ons and then add them back one by one to see which one is causing the CTD. I would start with ChasePlane, Reshade, GSX and PTA, in that order. We are all prisoners of the open architecture that's used in P3d. I'll try that. The only issue is that the crashes do come sporadically, so this will take some time (the crash occurred 6 hours into the flight and I've successfully completed several long hauls before it). When I said "decade old program", I was referring to the fact that much of this is still FSX base code, but nonetheless the addons undoubtedly complicate things. Thanks and I'll see if I make any progress and determining the culprit Mark Javornik
July 18, 20178 yr Author 16 minutes ago, JustanotherPilot said: It's just over one month old, Prepar3d V4 is 64 bit, a completely new build. what settings did you have, is your system capable of high settings under 64 bit. I realize that it's technically new, but much of the code is still FSX base code and crashes have plagued simmers in every build that has come. Prepar3d V3 also gave me its fair share of crashes throughout its life. I know that it's very complicated, but stability has never been the platform's strong suit. I mean, we only just got 64bit, so it's not entirely inaccuarate to say that Prepar3d has always been a very FSX based system. Regardless, my specs are as follows. Cpu: i7 4930k @4.4GHZ RAM: 16GB GPU: GTX 1080 PSU: Corsair RM1000 My settings are mostly maxed out with a few exceptions, and normally get around 30FPS (worst case scenario in the low 20s if I have heavy weather, big city and airport scenery), so performance is never an issue. Thanks for the help and I'm not trying to bash the platform. It's a great sim...it's just that I do find it a bit frustrating that every iteration of Prepar3d seems to have stability issues once addons start coming in (which may very well be the culprit), and I can't help but think that a lot of it may be due to the underlying age of much it's code and the fact that brand new addon technology is trying to function with an otherwise older sim Mark Javornik
July 18, 20178 yr Author Btw, nothing in particular seems to trigger it. As I've said, I successfully completed several long hauls using the same addons as in this build. The crashes seem entirely random and unpredictable, so it may take a while for me to see which addon (if that's the case) is causing issues. It could take 10 flying hours...could take 60 :( I'll post back if I find anything. It is worth mentioning that the last time it crash, app crash view did not even generate a crash log so I don't know what was the culprit of the first crash (file-wise) Mark Javornik
July 18, 20178 yr Page 33 of the AVSIM CTD Guide discusses a StackHash. See my signature for the link to the guide or look to the right of this forum on the sidebar under Hot Topics. Most likely your P3D settings are too high. There are some other suggestions in the guide that worked for others but high settings is the most common. Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
July 18, 20178 yr Author 3 hours ago, Jim Young said: Page 33 of the AVSIM CTD Guide discusses a StackHash. See my signature for the link to the guide or look to the right of this forum on the sidebar under Hot Topics. Most likely your P3D settings are too high. There are some other suggestions in the guide that worked for others but high settings is the most common. I'll check it out. Thanks! Mark Javornik
July 19, 20178 yr Author So I gave the CTD guide a look and I'll do some test flights to see how it goes. Like I said, I completed several flights in the past without an issue, so perhaps this was a random occurrence (especially given that the stackhash error is so nonspecific). Aside from that, I'll try updating GPU drivers and windows. If none of that works, then I'll start removing addons one by one. Thanks for the help everyone Mark Javornik
August 6, 20178 yr On 7/19/2017 at 2:40 AM, markjj said: So I gave the CTD guide a look and I'll do some test flights to see how it goes. Like I said, I completed several flights in the past without an issue, so perhaps this was a random occurrence (especially given that the stackhash error is so nonspecific). Aside from that, I'll try updating GPU drivers and windows. If none of that works, then I'll start removing addons one by one. Thanks for the help everyone How did things work out for you? I am getting this very error as well and like you, very sporadically. Also with PMDG 747 or 777 (have latest updates). Just got one today about 5 or 6 hours into my trans-Atlantic flight over open water and I was not even near the sim. I can do most flights just fine and then, bam.. this error again. I will try turning down some settings I guess. Don't know why the settings work most times but then this time it don't. In doing many searches via Google, the only common denominator I have found is PMDG 747 or 777 aircraft. Sooo frustrating!! Faulting application name: Prepar3D.exe, version: 4.0.28.21686, time stamp: 0x594a7255 Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 10.0.14393.479, time stamp: 0x5825887f Exception code: 0xc0000374 Fault offset: 0x00000000000f8283 Faulting process id: 0x1590 Faulting application start time: 0x01d30ec6c1941828 Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Prepar3D.exe Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll Report Id: 2498b973-27c4-4c8f-973d-6af1691b6c4e Faulting package full name: Faulting package-relative application ID: Eric
August 6, 20178 yr If you have MyTrafficX installed, many of the aircraft are not compatible with V4 (or V3) so P3D crashes occasionally when these aircraft are called. Many have succesffully stopped the crashes by renaming the trafficmil.bgl in the MyTraffic/Scenery folder. Others have removed the old FS9 developed AI so that they can continue to use the trafficmil.bgl. This fix is shown in the AVSIM CTD Guide under ntdll.dll. Best regards, Jim Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
August 6, 20178 yr 2 minutes ago, Jim Young said: If you have MyTrafficX installed, many of the aircraft are not compatible with V4 (or V3) so P3D crashes occasionally when these aircraft are called. Many have succesffully stopped the crashes by renaming the trafficmil.bgl in the MyTraffic/Scenery folder. Others have removed the old FS9 developed AI so that they can continue to use the trafficmil.bgl. This fix is shown in the AVSIM CTD Guide under ntdll.dll. Best regards, Jim Don't have MyTraffic installed. I do have AI traffic for use online but I was over the Atlantic and not another aircraft in sight for a few hundred miles! So that is not it. I have been looking around the internet and see that the PMDG 747/777 are frequently mentioned with this ntdll.dll error and long haul flights. Eric
August 6, 20178 yr Best to go to the PMDG website and submit a trouble ticket then. Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
August 7, 20178 yr Author 16 hours ago, B777ER said: Don't have MyTraffic installed. I do have AI traffic for use online but I was over the Atlantic and not another aircraft in sight for a few hundred miles! So that is not it. I have been looking around the internet and see that the PMDG 747/777 are frequently mentioned with this ntdll.dll error and long haul flights. Just had another crash today despite my efforts (latest drivers, updates, turning addons off, etc). A few hours into a 12 hour flight from ZSPD-KDTW, the sim CTD with the same stackhash error. It's practically unusable for me and I'm considering downgrading to V3 as it was much more stable despite having its crashes every now and then. Even though CTDs have been an issue throughout the life of the P3D/FSX platform, it does seem to occur more often with this particular build so perhaps it needs a hotfix. Like I said, flying has become impossible in anything longer than a few hours and I can't pinpoint it to any addon Mark Javornik
August 7, 20178 yr Author Here was the log from my last crash...approximately 3 hours in Version=1 EventType=APPCRASH EventTime=131465672505320586 ReportType=2 Consent=1 UploadTime=131465672511231240 ReportStatus=268435456 ReportIdentifier=cdae9888-6396-4518-afd8-f6c406fdb70c IntegratorReportIdentifier=1fc78262-ee84-41ca-b750-108478012564 Wow64Host=34404 NsAppName=Prepar3D.exe AppSessionGuid=00000f18-0003-0022-1262-5f2e380fd301 TargetAppId=W:0000c84560c5817c3bd2b647f42bb21eb2d20000ffff!0000604a7eba7010301df84834a470a2dc1946398e5a!Prepar3D.exe TargetAppVer=2017//06//21:13:19:17!2dc5a4!Prepar3D.exe BootId=4294967295 TargetAsId=3671 Response.BucketId=4a5c27c336271dea2231478d6c28ccf2 Response.BucketTable=4 Response.LegacyBucketId=120789136181 Response.type=4 Sig[0].Name=Application Name Sig[0].Value=Prepar3D.exe Sig[1].Name=Application Version Sig[1].Value=4.0.28.21686 Sig[2].Name=Application Timestamp Sig[2].Value=594a7255 Sig[3].Name=Fault Module Name Sig[3].Value=StackHash_f04d Sig[4].Name=Fault Module Version Sig[4].Value=10.0.15063.447 Sig[5].Name=Fault Module Timestamp Sig[5].Value=a329d3a8 Sig[6].Name=Exception Code Sig[6].Value=c0000374 Sig[7].Name=Exception Offset Sig[7].Value=PCH_44_FROM_ntdll+0x00000000000A5EF4 DynamicSig[1].Name=OS Version DynamicSig[1].Value=10.0.15063.2.0.0.768.101 DynamicSig[2].Name=Locale ID DynamicSig[2].Value=1033 DynamicSig[22].Name=Additional Information 1 DynamicSig[22].Value=f04d DynamicSig[23].Name=Additional Information 2 DynamicSig[23].Value=f04d669b620c98ba4a740d38bfbad151 DynamicSig[24].Name=Additional Information 3 DynamicSig[24].Value=4489 DynamicSig[25].Name=Additional Information 4 DynamicSig[25].Value=44897abb5047a399ff26860ff314661b UI[2]=C:\Prepar3d V4\Prepar3D.exe UI[3]=Prepar3D exe has stopped working UI[4]=Windows can check online for a solution to the problem. 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