Vineguy

ATC drops my IFR flight P3DV4

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Every time I try to fly a default flight plan using P3DV4 ATC and flight planner, if I pause the sim or check the map to check my position, ATC will stop my IFR flight and I have create a new flight plan. I also noticed that I am not the only who gets dropped. I can the ATC message asking another flight if they copy several times and then they also get dropped and only have flight following or they would have to open a the flight plan again. I fly for a VA and can't really have this happen all the time.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Bob G.

 

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I recommend you look into and consider either Radar Contact 4, PF3 or Pro-ATC/X.  They are all great for tubeliners and work with P3Dv4, as well.

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34 minutes ago, beechcaptain said:

I recommend you look into and consider either Radar Contact 4, PF3 or Pro-ATC/X.  They are all great for tubeliners and work with P3Dv4, as well.

I checked them out Glenn and watched some YouTube videos etc. I don't mind the default ATC, I've used it for years with FSX. I am curious to see if anyone else is experiencing the same as I am.

I appreciate your reply. Which one do you prefer by the way? I can't understand the one that has the English accent. :)

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I too end up back with the default ATC after using RC4 and Pro-ATC/X.  I do wish that LM would fix a few things in it though. But, I like the way that it interacts with AI and that it is built into the platform without yet another addon to use.  But, I'm not having the trouble with IFR plans being cancelled in v4 that you are experiencing.  

I was having that with some of my MT6 traffic because the [Radios] section was missing in many aircraft.  So, ATC would contact them and they would not respond - IFR was cancelled.  But, that was an easy fix.  

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Thanks Rick. I also am using MT6 and that's probably why ATC keeps dropping them. I don't know why if I pause for a minute or so that my IFR FP is canceled. Or if I switch to take a peek at the map to check my location, ATC does the same thing.

How do you fix the problem with the radios with MT6?

Thanks for your reply.

Bob G.

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See the following link (about 11 posts down on the first page) -

 

2 hours ago, Vineguy said:

Every time I try to fly a default flight plan using P3DV4 ATC and flight planner, if I pause the sim or check the map to check my position, ATC will stop my IFR flight and I have create a new flight plan.

That is certainly strange as clicking on the "P" key pauses the sim and, when you click on it again it should unpause the sim and you are back into the scenario.  The flight stops when you hit the P key.  Same goes when you open the Map via the Menu.  The sim stops.  I will have to try this myself and see if my IFR flights stop too (oh goodie!  Get to do another test!! :biggrin:).

Best regards,

Jim

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This has happened to me a couple times.  Just drops contact as if I wasn't responding, but the last time was just a few seconds after I confirmed an instruction.  This also happened off and on in FSX.  I think it's happened twice to me in P3Dv4, but didn't think too much of it.  Haven't tried the 3rd party ATC programs yet, but I'm sure I'll get to that eventually

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Thanks for the reply Brian. At least it confirms it's just not me. What's strange is that if I use the map view and then close it, the sim rebuilds the whole situation again with the loading progress bar showing as it loads.

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I use FlightPln GO for a moving map/progress tracker on my Windows tablet, so I don't use the P3D map at all.  Don't know if this helps or just confuses you more, but figured I'd throw that in there

It was never that big of a deal to me so I never really looked into it

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I use Plan G and export its plans to the P3D4 plan folder. IFR ATC used to work fine, but now it keeps dropping me.  Seems like I get as far as IFR clearance, and then never hear from ATC again.  I hear ATC giving commands to the AI (UTLive) but I'm ignored.  I must have bad breath or something.  If it keeps up with no known fix, I'll go to third party ATC, but with EditVoicepak for me the default ATC is fine.

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16 minutes ago, Vineguy said:

Thanks for the reply Brian. At least it confirms it's just not me. What's strange is that if I use the map view and then close it, the sim rebuilds the whole situation again with the loading progress bar showing as it loads.

In map view, make sure to just cancel instead of saying OK.  That might be what is causing your IFR plan to be cancelled.    I also use Flight Sim Commander for planning and the map so I don't have to use the P3D map since it is somewhat unrealistic when it pauses the flight.

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I'll try that, but I think that's what I usually do.

 

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If you say OK, it rebuilds and takes a while.  If you cancel, it goes right back to where you where immediately.  So, if you are seeing the progress bar, you are probably hitting OK.

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I have no idea about the pause thing.  Mine doesn't do that.  My 7-month old granddaughter keeps doing cute baby things and I pause to go see her and it's OK when I come back.

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2 hours ago, Vineguy said:

Which one do you prefer by the way?

I am currently using PF3 and Pro-ATC/X, alternating between the 2 every few flights.  Still can't decide which one to stay with as they both have strengths and weaknesses.  Although I seem to be using Pro-ATC/X more, lately.

 

 

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I also prefer default atc and have had it malfunction on several occasions in v4 where it immediately cancels a flight plan or locks out user with no options in the atc menu on loading a saved flight after exiting p3d. Perhaps it happens when sim is interrupted or flight saved while atc is transmitting message or user reaponse is pending. Also I usually carry out vnav decent not adhering to atc instructions which has worked fine but in v4 several times never got assigned approach and runway. Didn't have these glitches before v4.

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Well, I hope LM does read this thread. I fly for a VA at least 5 times a week and hate to go back to FSX after paying for the PMDG 737-800 to use with P3DV4. Also for Rick. I can select cancel in the map view and it doesn't load the sim again like it does with V4.

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24 minutes ago, Vineguy said:

Well, I hope LM does read this thread. I fly for a VA at least 5 times a week and hate to go back to FSX after paying for the PMDG 737-800 to use with P3DV4. Also for Rick. I can select cancel in the map view and it doesn't load the sim again like it does with V4.

In v4, hitting cancel in map mode doesn't re-load for me.  But, hitting OK does.  I hope that you sort it out!

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@Rick. I checked it and you're correct. I tried it in FSX and I can select either cancel or OK and it doesn't load again. Thanks. 

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