beechcaptain

I was referring to the airac cycle use only. Their other half, associated with Simbrief is not the gist of my post. Not defensive, just concerned. If others feel it is cost prohibitive, then they shouldn't purchase. Fair enough. Just not fair to bash SI because what they are providing, the hours of work they put into it justify the cost, imho. Ymmv. I don't object to your opinion. I just dislike people constantly griping about and/or bashing continuously. If a majority find it cost prohibitive, then I don't think SI would continue at the high volume rate of production. And, they are about to offer a more limited, free version for those who don't want to pay the $. Is this becoming a beating the dead horse discussion. I think so, so I'm done. Ciao

We tend to sink a lot of money into our flight sim habit. At least, I know I do. We tend to spend on things to enhance our flying enjoyment. I know I do. So, whether it is aircraft, weather app, ground support, navigraph, etc., we like to expand our flight sim horizon. I know I do. Speaking of Navigraph - I don't see anyone griping about the cost of a monthly subscription, and all they provide are monthly airac cycles. Again, I don't see anyone complaining about that cost. I believe SayIntentions.ai's monthly fee is worth it based on the plethora of data being processed and what their app provides in the way of ai atc activities. All the work that goes into programming to give a suitable atc app for flight sims with human voices that are smooth without pauses and grammar/pronunciation/emphasis is accurate in the sentences spoken by programmed ai. All I'm saying is, they are doing a lot and I don't mind paying for their atc app. To each, his own.

Some like Chevrolet, some like Ford, some like Toyota, some like Honda, and so on. To each his own. However, there always seems to be a lot of hate posts here at Avsim and I don't get it. If you don't like something, so be it, but it is not necessary to start a smear campaign. No body is guiltless in this world. Lot's of bs posted out here in interspace. It is hard to separate the wheat from the chaff a lot of the time. If I don't like something, I avoid it, rather than trying to change everyone else's opinion. Oh well, typical of human behavior these days. Off my soap box, now. Ciao.

Not I. I don't see any forums related to xpuipc, seem non-existent. Only reference to download links is a repository from a google search. I must be missing something, as at one time I seem to recall xpuipc in the download links section of the fsuipc site. They seem to have changed things up quite a bit with the layout. Unless I'm grossly mistaken.

Here is the link to the post about how to get it to work in xp12: XP12 has a decent atc of its own, but still needs some work. There are 2 payware options that work quite well in XP12: Pilot2ATC & SayIntentions.ai. SayIntentions.ai is a subscription based app, but to me, is worth every penny and then some. What I would normally spend on beer or dining out easily covers the monthly price. Also, they are creating a freeware version that is a bit limited but still great option. Real voices, no robots at all and behaves like a human as far as it can answer a lot of questions. I suggest first trying default XP12 atc and see how it suits you before considering other options. The one issue with trying to get RC4 to work in XP12 is getting makerunways to work. It is needed for RC4 to have all of the data from XP12 airports, and I could not find how to get it to work in XP12. It works for XP11, but not 12, afaik.

I think so. I used RC4 for over 20 years, but stopped when I could not get it to function properly in XP12. I also had conflicts with XPUIPC and certain aircraft & helos, so in the end, I had to shelve RC4, and XPUIPC. There is a post in the RC4 forum that describes getting RC4 to work in XP. I know it works in XP11, but not so sure you can get it to in XP12. Read up and ask questions in the RC4 forum, is my suggestion before writing it off, though.

It's been a very long time since I've flown it. If memory serves me correct, there are issues with VNAV functions. Mine is in the bone yard. Unless it goes on sale for over 50% off, I would not recommend it. Total abandonware. Best to stick with PMDG or go Airbus with FSLabs. Cost is more but, you get what you pay for. Just my $0.02.

I have noticed a slight increase in fps. Probably averaged around 10 fps improvement. This is in Toliss A321N with live wx and AS XP12 live wx. Of course, it turns out to be a beautiful, cloudless sky for my ATL-MSY flight. Will need to verify when conditions are less favorable.

Shaun, I'm now flying xplane 12 and just installed KSAT. I'm getting black flickering triangles coming from a spot in front of the parked a/c at the gate. It appears to originate near the baggage loader nearest to the center line/taxi line in front of the aircraft. Any idea how to solve this?

Sorry, I thought you were asking about SI. Open Sky is indeed free. SayIntentions.ai is the full blown subscription based version. I think the purpose of OpenSky being a freeware is to allow users more than the original SI 24hr trial time, to decide if they want to upgrade. Also, many will probably stick with OpenSky as it may be all they ever need. It takes the flight from gate to gate using the runways identified in the flight plan. It is my understanding the user is not able to request a change of runways. Of course I could very well be wrong, just what I understood from Brian's initial presentation about OpenSky.

This is direct from their website.

Yep, it's sort of a dumbed down version, so to speak. It offers a good experience but the subscription based "premium" version offers a whole lot more. Once you have the opportunity to try the free version, you will get a good taste of their ai based atc. Then, understand that the subscription version builds a lot on top of that.

@Watsi - This is in the works at SI and might be of interest to you (more info on their website):

Understood, for many it is the deal breaker. However, for me, compared to spending $20+ a month for beer and/or fast food on a whim, it was a good substitute for my money. I will say that at first, I was a little skeptical about the cost, but once I started using it, to me it was a no brainer. Probably the best addon besides several payware aircraft that I have found for my flight simming. Also, I can use it with both XP12 and P3Dv5. Just my $0.02, of course, ymmv.

@jcomm - OpenSky will give you a decent idea of how good SI really is. Then, if you are like me, will come the subscription to gain the full benefits of SI. It is amazing. The interaction is so lifelike that you will think there is a human on the other end of the channel. Absolutely no robotic voices outside of ATIS. Pure human dialog from an ai based app that responds accurately to your requests and responses. SI is an example of how good and useful ai can really be, imho.