October 15, 20178 yr So i have narrowed it down to the 747 being the culprit to the CTD when loading in. I have tried ALL aircraft to include other PMDG products and all work fine. Sceneries were changed up to see if maybe that was it, no joy. The 747 was just purchased today so I understand there are always kinks to work out when getting new prouducts, So i am all ears. Windows crash log: Quote Log Name: Application Source: Application Error Date: 10/14/2017 7:44:56 PM Event ID: 1000 Task Category: (100) Level: Error Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: Sexyton-PC Description: Faulting application name: Prepar3D.exe, version: 4.0.28.21686, time stamp: 0x594a7255 Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 10.0.16299.15, time stamp: 0x493793ea Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0x000000000003079d Faulting process id: 0x135c Faulting application start time: 0x01d34546582bdd90 Faulting application path: D:\P3D\Prepar3D.exe Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll Report Id: 4799b194-0a4d-4cbb-988b-45cd00514883 Faulting package full name: Faulting package-relative application ID: Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event"> <System> <Provider Name="Application Error" /> <EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID> <Level>2</Level> <Task>100</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2017-10-14T23:44:56.567765600Z" /> <EventRecordID>181</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer>Sexyton-PC</Computer> <Security /> </System> <EventData> <Data>Prepar3D.exe</Data> <Data>4.0.28.21686</Data> <Data>594a7255</Data> <Data>ntdll.dll</Data> <Data>10.0.16299.15</Data> <Data>493793ea</Data> <Data>c0000005</Data> <Data>000000000003079d</Data> <Data>135c</Data> <Data>01d34546582bdd90</Data> <Data>D:\P3D\Prepar3D.exe</Data> <Data>C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll</Data> <Data>4799b194-0a4d-4cbb-988b-45cd00514883</Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> </EventData> </Event> Below are the AppCrashView logs. Quote Version=1 EventType=APPCRASH EventTime=131524982966239147 ReportType=2 Consent=1 UploadTime=131524982988864220 ReportStatus=268435456 ReportIdentifier=d657b05e-4ddd-4736-8ece-a2efbc10f9b1 IntegratorReportIdentifier=4799b194-0a4d-4cbb-988b-45cd00514883 Wow64Host=34404 NsAppName=Prepar3D.exe AppSessionGuid=0000135c-0001-0002-90dd-2b584645d301 TargetAppId=W:0000866ac7dc4c86070bc5133136f5166e7300000904!0000604a7eba7010301df84834a470a2dc1946398e5a!Prepar3D.exe TargetAppVer=2017//06//21:13:19:17!2dc5a4!Prepar3D.exe BootId=4294967295 TargetAsId=1035 UserImpactVector=319828240 Response.BucketId=acf71e09f33a50a1072f9bd220279736 Response.BucketTable=4 Response.LegacyBucketId=120845441121 Response.type=4 Sig[0].Name=Application Name Sig[0].Value=Prepar3D.exe Sig[1].Name=Application Version Sig[1].Value=4.0.28.21686 Sig[2].Name=Application Timestamp Sig[2].Value=594a7255 Sig[3].Name=Fault Module Name Sig[3].Value=ntdll.dll Sig[4].Name=Fault Module Version Sig[4].Value=10.0.16299.15 Sig[5].Name=Fault Module Timestamp Sig[5].Value=493793ea Sig[6].Name=Exception Code Sig[6].Value=c0000005 Sig[7].Name=Exception Offset Sig[7].Value=000000000003079d DynamicSig[1].Name=OS Version DynamicSig[1].Value=10.0.16299.2.0.0.768.101 DynamicSig[2].Name=Locale ID DynamicSig[2].Value=1033 DynamicSig[22].Name=Additional Information 1 DynamicSig[22].Value=c1c8 DynamicSig[23].Name=Additional Information 2 DynamicSig[23].Value=c1c82711862d4edb6b93185fe6656447 DynamicSig[24].Name=Additional Information 3 DynamicSig[24].Value=87ec DynamicSig[25].Name=Additional Information 4 DynamicSig[25].Value=87ecc540a5437fe60c47fe5be860ae19 UI[2]=D:\P3D\Prepar3D.exe UI[3]=Prepar3D exe has stopped working UI[4]=Windows can check online for a solution to the problem. 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OsInfo[33].Key=containerid OsInfo[34].Key=containertype OsInfo[35].Key=edu OsInfo[35].Value=0 FriendlyEventName=Stopped working ConsentKey=APPCRASH AppName=Prepar3D exe AppPath=D:\P3D\Prepar3D.exe NsPartner=windows NsGroup=windows8 ApplicationIdentity=01B0040EA8F9B196DE109F7E67B174D6 MetadataHash=-2038490207 Tyler Sexton
October 15, 20178 yr Commercial Member 2 minutes ago, tman41291 said: Windows crash log: ntdll.dll, despite the correlation, is not us. Kyle Rodgers
October 15, 20178 yr Author Just weird that it only happens when selecting the 747, all others are fine as well as locations. Literally the only thing that crashes it. I don’t even know what that .dll is or what to do lol. I guess I’ll take this over to the CTD subforum then Tyler Sexton
October 15, 20178 yr 16 hours ago, tman41291 said: Just weird that it only happens when selecting the 747, all others are fine as well as locations. Literally the only thing that crashes it. I don’t even know what that .dll is or what to do lol. I guess I’ll take this over to the CTD subforum then It is normal to associate correlation with causation, politicians do it all the time and get away with it. The ntdll.dll is literally the heart of the operating system and most problems that cause it to show up as faulting module are things that work at that low level such as drivers. It is a tricky one to figure out but be assured that the QOTSII is not so new that a bug that causes a crash 100% of the time with all users or even some is not likely. The ntdll.dll topic comes up from a user here about once a couple of weeks, so it does happen but you have to look beyond PMDG. Dan Downs KCRP
October 15, 20178 yr Author I followed the debug guide and deleted the p3d generated files/folders so I ended up getting it to work. I now am having another odd moment, the PMDG 747 house liveries work, but if i select the UPS livery i have no wheels lol :) Again, my apologies for assuming and associating the 2, just figured it was a coincidence and there was no harm no foul in asking for the help or at least starting somewhere for help. Tyler Sexton
October 15, 20178 yr Author When I built a new a PC and put v4 on the freshest copy of windows, nothing else has touched it, I didnt have to do the simconnect troubleshoot as I did last year. Since I am having the same issue as last year, now, i decided to trouble shoot the same way by installing the simconnect .msi files. No luck though, still doesnt work, and actually now the engines just go full throttle and I cannot click anything. Any advice? Tyler Sexton
October 15, 20178 yr Only one livery fails to work or only the house liveries work? I am flying the UPS B744F right now without an issue. Dan Downs KCRP
October 15, 20178 yr Author 7 minutes ago, downscc said: Only one livery fails to work or only the house liveries work? I am flying the UPS B744F right now without an issue. I know it’s on my end, just puzzled where at lol. So after restarting, going in and out of PMDG the house liveries work 50% of the time, the UPS works 0%, strangely enough when I select the UPS livery that seems to trigger the others to stop working as well which is why I put 50%. I even switched to the NGX and 777 and they work just fine Tyler Sexton
October 15, 20178 yr Confirm that you are not loading one PMDG product on top of another, in other words your default aircraft is not a complex or PMDG aircraft and you only load one PMDG type or livery per session. You have to restart the simulator to change liveries. Dan Downs KCRP
October 15, 20178 yr Author 5 minutes ago, downscc said: Confirm that you are not loading one PMDG product on top of another, in other words your default aircraft is not a complex or PMDG aircraft and you only load one PMDG type or livery per session. You have to restart the simulator to change liveries. I did, thats what i meant by restarting, my apologies. Tyler Sexton
October 15, 20178 yr Odd... maybe its time to submit a ticket with PMDG Product Support. Dan Downs KCRP
October 15, 20178 yr To the OP, I have been getting this all day today with the 747-400, but bear in mind that I'm not stating that it is the 747-400 solely at fault. Set off on a long Trans-Atlantic hop from EGCC to KMIA. Just above Brunswick had my first CTD with ntdll.dll. Then made progress after a re-start and saved flight right down to a few hundred NM to TD into KMIA. And 3 times I had a ntdll.dll CTD just approaching one particular waypoint. I think it was HIBAC. I gave up after that. Tried disabling FTX Global, ASP4, FSUIPC, no matter what. That same .dll kept causing the CTD. Rick Almeida
October 16, 20178 yr 21 hours ago, vc10man said: And 3 times I had a ntdll.dll CTD just approaching one particular waypoint. I think it was HIBAC. I gave up after that. Are you using Navigraph's SimLink? Try without it. I removed it day one because I kept crashing at the same location over Hudson Bay. Dan Downs KCRP
October 16, 20178 yr Hi Dan. Thanks for your suggestion, But no. No Navigraph other that the last Airac. Now trying the same aircraft in a different area of the world. Imaginesim's VIDP to FlyTampa's LGAV. On that flight to KMIA, I wish I knew how to do a Direct to properly to bypass that HIBAC waypoint that was causing my hiccups. Rick Almeida
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