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One thing I noticed was the path to pilot2atc.  Mine is named Pilot2ATC_2016_x64.  Of course it can be changed during install.

You don't need to specify the path for the sound files.  This can eliminate a possible error not that you have just easier.

I will assume that there are a 10 sub folders in controllers each with sound files.

Maybe volume turned down.  Click on COM1 standby like you were going to enter a frequency.  Click on the UP button which controls sound volume.

Everything you describe sounds correct.

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I just purchased pilot2atc last week and file path is pilot2atc_2018_x64. I have pressed the comm standby and clicked on the up button to increased radio volume. Not sure what you mean by I don't have to specify a path to the sounds folder. The demo states that you need to do this.

I don't see anyone in these forums with the same issue I have so i keep thinking I am doing something wrong but no idea what that could be. I did a couple flights with Pilot2atc and everything else works great.

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I don't specify the sound path and all works. Learned this from Dave. It sucks that pictures cannot be posted in the forum as this is worth a thousand words.  Copied instructions from another post.  Just inform Dave what the problem is and attach your log file.  I am sure he will have a strong idea or find a new bug.  You should include information about what you are running this software upon.

Just thought of this possibility. Is the frequency changing in the plane?  I know may be dumb question but I fly FF 777 a lot and this happens to me all the time.  I have to enable Pilot2atc to control the radio.

Please email the P2A log file for this flight to admin@pilot2atc.com.

Log files are located in:

C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Roaming\P2A_200\Logs

where <UserName> is your PC user name

A new one is created each time you start Pilot2ATC, so if you take the most recent one when you have the error, you should have the correct one.

 

This is the best place to see what is going wrong.  It is a bit cryptic but easy to read.  

It is easy to do something wrong at the beginning with this software.  For the longest time I couldn't get ATC Chatter the old long file versions to work.

 

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Firstly I will try without a sound path. 

Frequency is not changing in the plane at all

I am not getting an error message. Chatter just doesn't work

I will get the log file and send later

Thanks for your help

 

 

 

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I do think you have to be connected to the aircraft and the frequency changes must be happening.  When you first connect you should receive ATIS with CLRDEL in the standby.  Then swap frequency and (on mine there can be a lengthy hang).  If the PTT button isn't going green then this is the hang.  Just give it some time.  Maybe up to a minute.  Known bug but unknown cause at this point.

If it doesn't change in the plane then ensure the PWR button on the lower left is green. If not that you will likely need to enable Avionics and Battery switch in Config/P2A Setup.  What plane are you flying?  Picking one of the stock like Baron 58 is a good place as the interface with Pilot2atc is not an issue. 

Once you get to a controller frequency you should be good to go.

I reviewed the instructions for sound.  I hope you don't have a controllers/controllers/... situation going on. 

Step by step and you will solve it.  Once you do you will definitely love this addition.

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I cleared the path under the sound tab in the P2A configuration and it is working now. I followed what I was told to do in the X-atc-chatter demo video. Why does it work for some and not others. I am happy it's working now. Dave needs to know about this. Thanks for your help

 

 

 

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Dave, Do I need to update the documentation in X-ATC-Chatter? I still have the 32 bit version of Pilot2ATC installed and I know the X-ATC-Chatter instructions and videos are right for that. Maybe things are different for the 64 bit version.

Mark

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The setup should be the same for the x64 version.  I suspect the problem was that the entered Root Folder had a typo.  That field should only be used if the files are not stored in the recommended location and it should point to the folder that contains the required "Controllers" folder.

Dave

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This problem now solved:

Using FSX DVD version on Windows 10

I too  have installed X_ATC_Chatter sound files in P2A but can hear no chatter.

In config sounds, controller folders button clicked. Root folder is C:\Pilot2ATC_2018_x64\Sounds. Pause between file playback checked at a figure of 20. Play chatter checked.

Folder heirarchy is C:\Pilot2ATC_2018_x64\Sounds\ATC_Chatter\Europe\Controllers\ with folders App, Clr, Controllers, CTR, Dep, Dep_Gnd, Dep_Twr, Dep_Uni, Dest_Gnd, Dest_Twr and Dest_Uni.

Frequencies are active and the Comms radio up volume button has been pressed.

P2A connected. Frequencies active. Power button P2A green.

Here is the log:

Program StartedPilot 2 ATC (P2A) - version 2.4.0.4_x64  01/17/2018 10:41:27
Application frmP2AMain starting 01/17/2018 10:42:03
Loading Form
Main form openned: Pilot2ATC 2018 v. 2.4.0.4_x64      AIRAC cycle: 1801
Loading Map Control
LoadMapControl: panel 1
Creating ucMap1
SQLiteVersion: 3.8.11.1 | 2015-07-29 20:00:57 cf538e2783e468bbc25e7cb2a9ee64d3e0e80b2f | INTEROP_CODEC INTEROP_EXTENSION_FUNCTIONS INTEROP_VIRTUAL_TABLE NET_40 PRELOAD_NATIVE_LIBRARY THROW_ON_DISPOSED TRACE TRACE_PRELOAD TRACE_SHARED TRACE_WARNING USE_PREPARE_V2 WINDOWS
ucMap1 Created
ucMap DockFill set.
Setting Map Mode
Done Loading Map Control
Loading FPL Control
FPL Control Loaded
 GPS FlightPlan Changed 
ATCAssignsSTARs Changed to: True - 01/17/2018 10:47:44
ATCAssignsAPPRs Changed to: True - 01/17/2018 10:47:44
ATCAssignsSIDs Changed to: True - 01/17/2018 10:47:44
Loading Joystick Devices - 01/17/2018 10:48:04
Joystick Device: Mouse - Mouse
Joystick Device: Keyboard - Keyboard
Joystick Device: Joystick - HOTAS Warthog - Joystick
Joystick Device: MFG Crosswind V2 - Joystick
Joystick Device: Throttle - HOTAS Warthog - Joystick
Loading Joystick Devices - 01/17/2018 10:48:04
Joystick Device: Mouse - Mouse
Joystick Device: Keyboard - Keyboard
Joystick Device: Joystick - HOTAS Warthog - Joystick
Joystick Device: MFG Crosswind V2 - Joystick
Joystick Device: Throttle - HOTAS Warthog - Joystick
Loading Joystick Devices - 01/17/2018 10:48:04
Joystick Device: Mouse - Mouse
Joystick Device: Keyboard - Keyboard
Joystick Device: Joystick - HOTAS Warthog - Joystick
Joystick Device: MFG Crosswind V2 - Joystick
Joystick Device: Throttle - HOTAS Warthog - Joystick
Loading Joystick Devices - 01/17/2018 10:48:04
Joystick Device: Mouse - Mouse
Joystick Device: Keyboard - Keyboard
Joystick Device: Joystick - HOTAS Warthog - Joystick
Joystick Device: MFG Crosswind V2 - Joystick
Joystick Device: Throttle - HOTAS Warthog - Joystick
SIM Version Num: 8; SIM Version: FSX
Pilot2ATC_2018.exe    Information    0    SAPI does not implement phonetic alphabet selection.       at System.Environment.GetStackTrace(Exception e, Boolean needFileInfo)
   at System.Environment.get_StackTrace()
   at System.Diagnostics.TraceEventCache.get_Callstack()
   at Microsoft.VisualBasic.Logging.FileLogTraceListener.TraceEvent(TraceEventCache eventCache, String source, TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String message)
   at System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.TraceEvent(TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
   at System.Speech.Recognition.RecognizerBase.Initialize(SapiRecognizer recognizer, Boolean inproc)
   at System.Speech.Recognition.SpeechRecognitionEngine.get_RecoBase()
   at P2A_2018.ATCListener.LoadPilotGrammar()
   at P2A_2018.ATCListener.Init()
   at P2A_2018.frmP2AMain.e()
   at P2A_2018.frmP2AMain.f()
   at P2A_2018.frmP2AMain.ar(Object A_0, EventArgs A_1)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
   at System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.DispatchMessageW(MSG& msg)
   at System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.DispatchMessageW(MSG& msg)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ComponentManager.System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.IMsoComponentManager.FPushMessageLoop(IntPtr dwComponentID, Int32 reason, Int32 pvLoopData)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.RunMessageLoopInner(Int32 reason, ApplicationContext context)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.RunMessageLoop(Int32 reason, ApplicationContext context)
   at h.a()    ""    7868    1    27523754452
No controller assigned 10:48:07
Gnd ChatterFolder: C:\Pilot2ATC_2018_x64\Sounds\ATC_Chatter\Controllers\Dep_Gnd
ControllerFreqChanged: 121.75.  CtlrShrtName: EDDT Gnd CtlrType: Ground10:48:07
SIM Rate Changed: 1
Sim Connected: 01/17/2018 10:48:07
ATCAssignsSIDs: True
ATCAssignsSTARs: True
ATCAssignsAPPRs: True
ForcePilotRunwaySelection: False
AutoLoadRecommendedProcedures: False
Retrieving TAF from web started at 01/17/2018 10:48:07
Retrieving TAF from web started at 01/17/2018 10:48:07
Retrieving TAF from web successful at 01/17/2018 10:48:17
Retrieving weather from web started at 01/17/2018 10:48:17
Retrieving TAF from web successful at 01/17/2018 10:48:18
Retrieving weather from web started at 01/17/2018 10:48:18
Retrieving weather from web successful at 01/17/2018 10:48:24
Retrieving weather from web successful at 01/17/2018 10:48:24
AssignedRunway: RW26L - 
 GPS FlightPlan Changed 
No controller assigned 10:48:25
GetATIS 10:48:25
ControllerFreqChanged: 125.9.  CtlrShrtName: EDDT ATIS CtlrType: ATIS10:48:26
No controller assigned 10:48:59
Gnd ChatterFolder: C:\Pilot2ATC_2018_x64\Sounds\ATC_Chatter\Controllers\Dep_Gnd
ControllerFreqChanged: 121.75.  CtlrShrtName: EDDT Gnd CtlrType: Ground10:48:59
InterruptAudio in OnPilotSpeaking 01/17/2018 10:49:22
Started Listening
UnInterruptAudio in OnPilotEndSpeaking 01/17/2018 10:49:29
Stopped Listening
Recognized Speech: Cessna Oscar Lima India Ready to Copy IFR Clearance 10:49:30
HandleIFRClearanceRequest 10:49:30
ControllerChanging: False : 01/17/2018 10:49:30
InterruptAudio in SayPhrase Cessna Oscar Lima India we don't have a Flight Plan on file for you.  01/17/2018 10:49:31
ATC Speak:  Cessna Oscar Lima India we don't have a Flight Plan on file for you. 10:49:31
Sug Resp:  File your flight plan and try again.10:49:31
OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped 01/17/2018 10:49:36
UnInterruptAudio in OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped SugRes: 01/17/2018 10:49:36
 GPS FlightPlan Changed 
ucFltPln ValidateCurrentFltPlan Started
 GPS FlightPlan Changed 
ucFltPln ValidateCurrentFltPlan Done
Begin FPLFile 01/17/2018 10:50:40
AssignedRunway: RW26L - 
AssignedSID: RW26L-BKD6L-BKD - 
FP.FileFLtPlan executed.
ATCFltPlan set to Filed FPL
ATC UserNamesAdded
 GPS FlightPlan Changed 
Filed Route: EDDT Direct EDHI Direct EDWG EDWY 
Filed SID: BKD7T - RW08R - 
Filed STAR: - - - -
Filed APPR: 
Filed APPR Trans: 
Filed Cruise Alt: 26000
File Descent Rate: 1200
End FPLFile 01/17/2018 10:50:43
InterruptAudio in OnPilotSpeaking 01/17/2018 10:50:51
Started Listening
UnInterruptAudio in OnPilotEndSpeaking 01/17/2018 10:50:57
Recognized Speech: Cessna Oscar Lima India Ready to Copy IFR Clearance 10:50:57
Stopped Listening
HandleIFRClearanceRequest 10:50:57
gATCAssignsSIDs = True
SpokenAssignedAltitude 10:50:57
SpokenAssignedAltitude 10:50:57
State Changed to: FlightPlanDelivered 10:50
InterruptAudio in SayPhrase Cessna Oscar Lima India is cleared to Echo Delta Whiskey Yankee, fly the BKD6L departure , with the BKD transition , then as filed.  Expect departure runway Two Six Left.   Climb to Four Thousand feet  via the departure. Expect higher clearances Two minutes after departure.  Squawk Three Two Zero Three 01/17/2018 10:50:57
ATC Speak:  Cessna Oscar Lima India is cleared to Echo Delta Whiskey Yankee, fly the BKD6L departure , with the BKD transition , then as filed.  Expect departure runway Two Six Left.   Climb to Four Thousand feet  via the departure. Expect higher clearances Two minutes after departure.  Squawk Three Two Zero Three10:50:58
Sug Resp:  ~Cessna Oscar Lima India is cleared to Echo Delta Whiskey Yankee, fly the BKD6L departure , with the BKD transition , then as filed.   Climb to Four Thousand feet  via the departure. Expect higher clearances Two minutes after departure.  Squawk Three Two Zero Three10:50:58
NewActiveWpt: Hdg-79
OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped 01/17/2018 10:51:21
UnInterruptAudio in OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped SugRes:~Cessna Oscar Lima India is cleared to Echo Delta Whiskey Yankee, fly the BKD6L departure , with the BKD transition , then as filed.   Climb to Four Thousand feet  via the departure. Expect higher clearances Two minutes after departure.  Squawk Three Two Zero Three  Cessna Oscar Lima India
 01/17/2018 10:51:21
Retrieving weather from web started at 01/17/2018 11:05:32
Retrieving weather from web successful at 01/17/2018 11:05:39
Retrieving TAF from web started at 01/17/2018 11:20:41
Can anyone help?

Thanks

 

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Please ignore the last post. I was looking around the radio stack in P2A, clicked from Com 1 to Com 2 and back again,  and suddenly Chatter started coming through!

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Great, it has been working for me all along so glad you got it working.

Mark

 

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Works fine for me in P2A, with no path under sounds tab.

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Mark,

Have you had recent reports of the chatter disappearing - as reported above in pilot2ATC?   I love the immersion of the chatter and now flying without it is not that enjoyable.  Recently I switched regions from the United States - to Europe over the Atlantic on a flight and have completely lost all the chatter.  I have tired everything listed above and cannot get the chatter to return.  Any ideas of what else I can do.  Appreciate any help.  Thanks.

Mark Holmes (Pilot2ATC with X-Plane11 and P3D4)

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Did you try to switch regions over the Atlantic in mid-flight? To the best of my knowledge this is how you change to a different region.

  1. Shut Down Pilot2ATC
  2. Remove the Controllers directory from the Pilot2ATC Sounds\ATC_Chatter folder
  3. Copy the X-ATC-Chatter Regions\Europe\Controllers directory to the Pilot2ATC Sounds\ATC_Chatter folder
  4. Start Pilot2ATC

If this is what you did to switch from U.S. to Europe and you are now loosing chatter playback randomly this could be an issue for Pilot2ATC. I also have never done any transatlantic flights but I if I recall the pilot is out of range of most of the AM ATC facilities. Dave might be able to shed some light on how this works when you are over the Ocean.

Mark

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Mark,

Thanks so much for responding to my post.  Dave was nice enough to allow me to reset my P2ATC thinking that I messed something up within it.  Unfortunately and Fortunately it did not fix the X-ATC-Chatter.  So I dug deeper and retraced my steps.  What I realized I did was download the new version of ATC_Chatter (I use my MacBook to download files) and when it unzips the files it leaves a weird copy of each file that are 4KB in size.  I did not delete these files as I did when I dowloaded the first version.  Since these files were listed in folders first - P2ATC was trying to play these files instead of the correct files.  Once I deleted them all was again perfect.

 If you ever need an advocate for your product please don't hesitate to ask.  Pilot2ATC along with X-ATC-Chatter has completely changed the immersion level of flightsiming for me.  

Mark

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I love P2ATC, I use it every day. The product is amzing in the intelligence of its ATC control - I have never seen, or heard, anything like it!

 

I bought ATC chatter too, but I am running P2ATC on a networked PC.  ATC Chatter does not work in this configuration - no sound at all. I can load it on my XP PC, but then P2ATC has no control and it is bedlam.

 

Any idea how to make this work over a network?

 

kind regards,

 

trev

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To work with P2A, you only install the ATC Chatter files on the same PC as P2A, according to the instructions in the P2A User's Guide, then set it up in the P2A Config. 

The files are played by P2A through the same output device (Speakers or Headset) as the P2A controllers.

Dave

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Thanks for the quick reply Dave!

I had tried installing ACT Chatter on the P2A machine, heard nothing at all. So I installed the updated version - works perfectly!  It's an awesome add on to P2A, completely confused my friends watching (and listening) because the chat is so real. Add the superb AI in P2A and it is as real as it gets - Great!

 

trev

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Posted (edited)
On 11/27/2017 at 12:58 AM, markcellis said:

I think all you need to do is increase the volume on the radio in Pilot2ATC. Take a look at the post Jon_H did above:

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/523090-x-atc-chatter-available-from-stick-and-rudder-studios/?do=findComment&comment=3754061

I'm also experiencing the problem with chatter sounds being much too quiet. I've installed your chatter files into P2A. I can hear them, but as soon as I start my engines in X-Plane I can only hear the synthetic ATC voices from P2A but not the chatter sounds. Sorry but I don't understand what you meant with "increase the volume on the radio in Pilot 2 ATC". I can only find volume controls for the individual ATC voices (that doesn't do anything with background sounds) , and additionally a volume control on the "Sound" tab, but that would only be useful if I would use a single chatter sound file. This volume control has no effect if I use the "Controller Folders" option on this tab.

The only (uncomfortable) solution I found is to make X-Plane much quiter (using x-plane sound settings or windows sound mixer), lower the volumes of all synthetic ATC voices from pilot2atc to around 10%, and turn up the vloume on my external Amplifier. Of course it would be better if I could raise the volume of the ATC Chatter instead of lowering the volume of everything else.

Edited by theflyguy

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When you click on the Com Standby frequency a window opens where you can change the frequency.  In that window, there are 3 Volume buttons: Up, Down and Mute.  These control the ATC Chatter volume.

Dave

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Thank you Dave, that did the trick. I looked througout the whole "Config" section of P2A, and overlooked the volume settings in the radio dialogue.

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Installed this over the weekend.

Love it.

Mark

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Dave, I've been away for a couple of month's and am about to update my X-ATC Chatter program.  I am a little confused about when I want to fly in Europe.  What do I need to do to get X-ATC Chatter to work in Europe?  Do I need to manually select which region I want to fly in to get X-ATC Chatter to work.  Thanks for your help.

Rodger

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At this point, you would have to save the current files/folders to the proper region so you have them later, and then copy the Europe files to the Controllers folder manually.  Some regions have a limited number of files for some controllers, so you may notice them repeating.

A future enhancement will enable the region selection in Pilot2ATC.

Dave

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