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My i7-2700k to i7-8700k upgrade experience!

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46 minutes ago, Cargostorm said:

 

If you say that the 8700@5GHz after the upgrade has twice as much FPS (= if you define this as "performance") as the previous 2700@4.8GHz with the same 1080TI card, then there must have been something wrong with the old system. I would expect only a slight increase in FPS depending on the situation.

I disagree the 1080Ti would have been completely CPU bound by the 2700K. I have seen a similar performance jump going from a 3930k 6core @4.4GHz to my new set up @4k resolution I ran v4 on both computers with the same 1080Ti.

Passmark lists their score for the 17-2700k as 8749 their score for the 8700k = 16444. The OP is seeing the results for himself.

 

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55 minutes ago, Uteman said:

The OP is seeing the results for himself.

Well, the OP posted screenshots showing 18FPS when sitting on the runway in a PMDG 747. As I do not own the PMDG 747, I really wonder if those FPS numbers are really more than 2-3FPS higher compared to what he would achieve with a 2700K. I doubt... That's why it would be nice if someone could do a "real" comparison. Screenshot with the old CPU, screenshot with the new CPU. At least to me, 18FPS for such a scenario is far away from being impressive...


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5 hours ago, Cargostorm said:

 

If you say that the 8700@5GHz after the upgrade has twice as much FPS (= if you define this as "performance") as the previous 2700@4.8GHz with the same 1080TI card, then there must have been something wrong with the old system. I would expect only a slight increase in FPS depending on the situation.

Very well could have been.

That being said, I realized that I didn't specify thst I had never used v4 on my old system. Only v3.

That may have made a big difference.

Just out of curiosity, for those people who habe a 2600k or 2700k and are using p3d v4, are they getting the same performance as I am in these pictures? If so, that's so cool!


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3 hours ago, AnkH said:

Well, the OP posted screenshots showing 18FPS when sitting on the runway in a PMDG 747. As I do not own the PMDG 747, I really wonder if those FPS numbers are really more than 2-3FPS higher compared to what he would achieve with a 2700K. I doubt... That's why it would be nice if someone could do a "real" comparison. Screenshot with the old CPU, screenshot with the new CPU. At least to me, 18FPS for such a scenario is far away from being impressive...

Yeah you're absolutely right. I went into pens nrocal configurwtoe and turned off the new night lights option and performance went up to about 30fps and was still perfectly smooth.

For what it's worth.

Fyi...to be honest...i was a little frustrated with thst scenario.


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For those of you inquiring as to why I didn't take pictures with my old set up first, it's because I didn't even think about doing something like this until I saw the performance gains.

Because of this and because i only have one power supply, I'm unable to move said power supply back to my old pc.

Also, two things....

Someone mentioned that it isn't a real comparison and more of a personal experience.

The thread title explains just that. I also explained that it wasn't a scientific method of a benchmark.

The whole idea was to see how my brand new rig performed straight out of the box and for anyone else to compare their set up with what my pictures showed by going into THEIR own p3d set up and changing their settings to match mine and see how they compare to mine under the same situation.

I honestly didn't think I would have to provide before and after pictures when my idea was for each person to individually compare their current set up to mine.

 

Sorry if this is causing headaches for some. I just wanted the community to see what the 8700k was capable of because it's so hard to get one right now and no one has given any feedback whatsoever.

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I will on Saturday dude, I promise.  From my first sightings it seems the 8700k is a beast.  But until I've got the fsl loaded up at the London sink hole or Toronto  I'm holding judgement 


 
 
 
 
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1 hour ago, tooting said:

I will on Saturday dude, I promise.  From my first sightings it seems the 8700k is a beast.  But until I've got the fsl loaded up at the London sink hole or Toronto  I'm holding judgement 

The 8700k tanked at FlyTampa's EHAM. I had to drop the autogen levels way down for any real performance on par with other add on airports.


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not a great pic as taken through teamviewer to show my temps on my 8700k.  thats locked at 30in the pmdg 773 with 4k vsync on at 30hertz.

Like I said its a bad quality pic as taken at work on my lunch on teamviewer,

 

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So first small test last night was in the fsl.  Loaded up at egkk with ai on 100 percent, activesky and orbs England  on etc etc did a very quick circuit.  Frames at locked at 30 as I run in 30hertz in 4k.

It never dipped   below 28, no stutters,  smooth as hell and the CPU never went over 60 degrees or more than 70 percent load. And it's running at 5.2 overclocked

Under my old 3770k the frames would of been on average 18 GPS tops.  The CPU would of been at 100 percent. 

For me it's a game changer.   No heating issues as people were claiming. 

Pics to follow

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Running at 5.2!?! 

Is that a super result for an 8700k or are we seeing alot of chips getting that high? What sort of cooling are you running?

I've never been able to get my 6700k above 4.6 stable.


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Ok, that sounds promising. Two questions:

1. Did you replace the fans of the H110i with more quiet ones? Or are the stock fans not as bad as everybody says?

2. Did you perform a complete new install on your new rig or did you change the hw using the quick and dirty method?


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Morning ANK.

 

1. I kept the stock fans and the noise is fine.  I also heard people replaced them with Noctua NF-A14 Industrial Class PWM

Fans link here    https://www.scan.co.uk/products/140mm-noctua-nf-a14-industrial-ppc-2000rpm-ip67-pwm-high-performance-fan?gclid=Cj0KCQiAuZXQBRDKARIsAMwpUeQqLt0lZTA-P7XnVdt_8lvqJ_NHBFxyoaS2bVsacbGkmiot6wW5wEgaAspQEALw_wcB

2. Complete new install.  the only thing I kept from my old rig was my SSD, DVD player and GPU  

 

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But Ank... be careful the H110i  will only fit into certain cases,  and if your an old git at 40 years old (like me) the led lighting on the MOBO will drive you nuts but you can turn it off 

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Now we have 2 confirmed cases of the 8700k apparently living up to its reputation.

@tooting What performance are you seeing with Dynamic lighting enabled. Its hit or miss for me. It depends on which scenery I am using. Sometimes its great, other times it drops below 20fps and isn't that smooth.


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