November 23, 20178 yr Author UPDATE AND CLOSURE..... I was as frustrated as I could be without actually throwing up my hands and walking away. I did add some prayers and some heavenly promises which may or may not have got me to the place I am at now. I was thrown for a loop why these panels I had weren't working. I spent lots of money on external USB hubs with more than enough power to run everything. In fact I have purchased two of them. Each external powered 2.0 USB hub had 7 connections each. I was starting to think they were defective. I was about to go out and buy new ones I was that frustrated. But reality set in and I decided not to change them out. So here's what I did. I have a very powerful machine to run my Prepar3d on. I have more than enough horsepower. I disconnected every device from my PC except the mouse and keyboard. I started with each USB port on the PC and made sure that they #1 worked, and #2 were powered to not turn off in the PC power management interface. I ended up uninstalling/deleting anything that had to do with SpadneXt, Saitek, Logitech, or any other driver that even remotely was attached to the hardware I had. This included deleting any left over empty files. I ran the professional version of CCleaner. I ran the cleaner a few times and then I cleared the registry. I believe that the registry (by not being cleared) was holding onto old files that prevented my SpadneXt from installing properly. After running CCleaner, clearing the registry, wiping the free space and running the CCleaner defrag, I was as clean as I could get in my opinion. I was sure to use only 2.0 USB ports from my PC. I had 4 of them and only needed two to run my two external powered USB hubs. So I plugged them into the PC USB 2.0 ports and all of my panels into the 14 2.0 USB ports on the external USB hubs. I wasn't out of the woods yet. But I was on the right track. After powering up my system, I googled the Saitek USB fix as suggested by FFPILOT. I did this for every device I had. That was step #1 of the problem solved. USB POWER MANAGEMENT WAS THE ROOT OF IT ALL. Next I went to SpadneXt and downloaded the "COMPLETE" version which cost me another $105. I ran through the installer and the install wizard and the rest is history. Was my luck too good to be true? I started up Prepare3d v4 and everything turned on. I added the 6 displays to the FIP's and loaded a flight. Went from KCLE to KCAK in my 172 without any issue. No lag, No panel drop out. It was fixed. I still have some tweaking to do, but little stuff. I can manage that. I made a flight from KCLE to KDTW and again no errors or drop outs. I truly believe the fix was power management and registry cleaning. Such a simple fix that Saitek should post for all. I just wish I could do the same and save others the frustration I went through. Anyway, Thanks for all your suggestions. Thanks for the quick replies, and thanks for not giving up on me. Kind Regards, JP
November 24, 20178 yr Great to hear! Bryan Wallis aka "fltsimguy" Maple Bay, British Columbia Near CAM3
November 24, 20178 yr As a sidenote: If memory serves me right (i.e. when I did the latest system installation some time ago), if you start SPAD.neXt as an administrator, it should deactivate the nasty USB power management, if it's not yet been done. Just in case anyone else runs into the issue. Kind regards, Michael Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel / LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440 / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11
November 25, 20178 yr In my story, I use all Saitek panels with X-Plane 11 and FSW, with native plugins and/or SpADNeXT. With Prepar3D , only using SpADNexT makes the panels work prefectly. The Logitech plugin is simply not working with Prepar3D v4. I have 2xUSB 3.0 hubs, and all energy saving tweaks on, using several tools, but never got it working natively. Intel i7-6700K 4.0Ghz ; Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H80i GT ; Mb Asus Maximus VIII Hero ; 240Gb SSD Kingston SSDNow V300+ 2TB SSD Samsung EVO exclusive for Prepar3D v3.2 + 2xSeagate 6TB SATA3 64MB ; 32GB DDR4 2400 G.Skill Ripjaws V Red ; Gigabyte GTX 980 Ti G1 Gaming 6GB ; 48" TV Samsung HW-7500 Curved UHD 60Hz
November 26, 20178 yr Author Hello all.... I wanted to follow up with my experience and let you know where I stand. I thought is was only fair as you all reached out to me and offered your support. I spent the last 2 days approx. 24 hours working to resolve my issues I was having with the panels. I started out by unplugging everything. I tested the USB ports of my computer. Everything tested fine. Then I tested the two 2.0 USB external power hubs I bought to run the panels. All was good. I then ran CCleaner and cleaned the registry. I searched my drives for anything related to Logitech and Saitek and spadnext. I deleted it all. I uninstalled all of it. I ran CCleaner professional and the registry cleaner again. It cleaned it all. I am not a pusher of this particular software but it cleaned my system pretty good. So I reinstalled spadnext. I plugged all my panels in and everything worked. I ran the spadnext wizard and I now have working panels. I also loaded all my software and have a perfect working P3D system. I have every setting on max and have absolutely no lag or frame loss. I can't believe the realism. Thanks to all of you for your help. I really appreciate it. Kind Regards, JP
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