Since you have the PMDG 744 why not try the proven and excepted best 737 700-800 out by PMDG? You will not have these FMC issues................Randy J. Smith................CAUTION! My views represent no one but my own. While I do help companies test products - this in no way means I represent them in ANY fashion.[h4]Evolution is a process that results in heritable changes in a population spread over many generations[/h4]

>Thanks for they reply, I guess I'll just have to deal with>it, I filed a dispute with my credit card and it looks like I>have revieved my money back. And yeah, they really did leave>ALOT of things out, waaay to much for a $115 airplane.Boy, that an understatement ;)The PMDG is the way to go, unless you'd rather wait until PMDG's FSX version. Either way, out of all the FS9 737 paywares, PMDG is the best.

I bought the pmdg a while back, it was great for its time but it is old technology, I will be buying the fsx version that Im sure will bring it up to the 747 standards. I always trust pmdg quality, lds and pmdg are in my opinion the two mos professional companys, pss used to be, I dont know what ever happened to them...., I guess the market became too complicated and they could not keep up.

I agree that from an 'age' point of view, the PMDG may be a little old hat but it still works, and works well. And what's more, you'll never hear anyone complain about their support......Fly well,Toni.

I am befuddled--since I am about halfway through my Sport Pilot license, what's the attraction of these systems intensive sims? Every time I go up for a lesson, I am awestruck by two things--the beautiful Arizona scenery, and the ability to guide by hand and "dead reckoning" my aircraft back down to terra firma. I just don't understand this infatuation with programming computers to do that for us.-John

I have a huge fleet stretching from a 152,Dc-3,Fighters,ultralights to 747s and b2 stealths.70 or so mixed types.One week I may be doing the Airline by the book,buried in the FMC routine and the next week using a compass to figure out where St Barts is on a old DC-3.Its all good!However the hardcore, IFR face buried in the fmc, fly by mouse crowd do have an advantage. They can save a ton of money on scenery addons.

>I am befuddled--since I am about halfway through my Sport>Pilot license, what's the attraction of these systems>intensive sims? Every time I go up for a lesson, I am>awestruck by two things--the beautiful Arizona scenery, and>the ability to guide by hand and "dead reckoning" my aircraft>back down to terra firma. I just don't understand this>infatuation with programming computers to do that for us.>>-JohnCouldnt have anything to do with people like different things? I like being at 35,000 feet with clouds all around. I alsp like being in my DF Baron at 2,000 of the Pacific Northwest. Just depends on the mood.

I like both, I enjoy flying vfr in the rockies of montana. But then I also like simulating airline procedures as accuratly as possible. Even on my vfr flights I always want the most realistic aircraft, because isnt that what the sim is for, to simulate flying the real thing?

There are a lot of different approaches to enjoy FS. GA and airlines do not have much in common. I actually enjoy flying both, but I tend towards the airliners. Why? Because I do have a PPL and can fly VFR for real - I don't need the FS for that. I do enjoy airliners, because I probably will never fly one, but I am extremly interested in the FMC and the airline SOPs. FS opens up for me a possibility to simulate something that I could never do in real life. A PPL is nothing out-of-reach for most people, being an airliner pilot is.On the same level, some people enjoy playing "The Sims" to simulate life. Personally, I found the idea nice, but ultimately boring, because my simulated life was something that I could do for real anytime.Pat

>I am befuddled--since I am about halfway through my Sport>Pilot license, what's the attraction of these systems>intensive sims? Every time I go up for a lesson, I am>awestruck by two things--the beautiful Arizona scenery, and>the ability to guide by hand and "dead reckoning" my aircraft>back down to terra firma. I just don't understand this>infatuation with programming computers to do that for us.>>-JohnYeah, forget FMC's! You need a dang college degree to understand them!

Why is it that someone always has to hijack threads and push some other agenda? This topic wasn't about systems-intensive versus not, it's about possible bugs in the Ariane 737 fmc system. I have the BBBJ, and the fmc doesn't work very well either: if you load a flightplan you've put together via the FS flight planner, the fmc will frequently insert waypoints which have nothing to do with the route you planned. More often than not, you have to go back and edit most of the waypoints manually. Fuel predictions, as well as time/miles to destination are also frequently completely off. Emails to support about this have not resolved anything. ricardo

Thanks for the reply ricardo, I guess their just nothing that can be done.

Actually, Ariane owners can also aquire technical support on their support forum at http://ariane.puebloaviation.org/index.php.pfil

http://ariane.puebloaviation.org/index.php

Michael.. try the ariane support sight at http://ariane.puebloaviation.org/index.php. it's a forum so you cn ask anything. I cant say why all three are active, perhaps it's only because the entire flightplan is active. I CAn say i've done a pretty good job of screwing myself up buy changing things in the clb and crz pages before.. It's a learning curve. Also, after entering your dep and arr, and the waypoints in between, just like pmdg make certain you have cleared the discontinuities.. Yes, Arianes are very pretty planes, and very complex. unlike other manufacturers planes, all the buttions and knobs work all the time.. no need to switch from VC for anything. On the other hand, theres nothing but a VC there.. What I recommend as far as procedure goes is this. set up your flightplan in your favorite planner and export it to FS. Keep in mind that FS Navigastor will insert extra waypoints you are unaware of.Open the FMC and perform the pos init, and imediately after, open the irs and begin it's synch. While the irs does it's thing, enter your dep airport. Here you can go two ways. on the bottom will be a line. on the left it will say ViA and on the right it says to. in the to space, put in your first waypoint. the fmc will automatically inser "direct" into the via slot across from it. then following the same procedure, enter each of your waypoints exactly as you had them in the flight plan. Now you can go to your departure and arrival page and set up your arrival. select your star, and it's transiytion point and yiour runway and it's transition point. then go back to the route page and activate the plan. that makes everything active. Climb cruz and descent. it's not that the fmc is confused, it's simply saying these are the things you set up and they will be used. Now, I've talked with a real 747 pilot, and she's told me that for descent, you basically have to manually descend it. But i hear ariane is working on a way for it to do things automatically for us. once your flight plan is active, run throuth the perf init and other things. shut off the irs after it synchs up and set your flaps.. Your good to go at that point.. pfil.