November 19, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, NorwegianAviator said: I don't compare youtube videos. I compare it to my real life experience. And how many hrs RW experience do you have on heavy jets?
November 19, 20187 yr Just now, FDEdev said: Now I'm curious. Which airline is this? I don't know any 747-400 operator which has such a low crosswind limit. No specific airline, as this will depend on SOP and runway conditions (wet, dry etc). I might be wrong, but I do think these numbers were from Boeing. Most airlines probably wont even go this high. Landing an airplane at maximum crosswind component requires skills and experience, and won't be a very pleasant experience for your passengers. --- MSFS | DCS | X-plane 12
November 19, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, FDEdev said: And how many hrs RW experience do you have on heavy jets? None, strictly a turboprop guy here. But the size of the airplane doesn't matter. They're all bound to the same physics. I'm pretty sure most pilots that have turboprop experience will agree that they are more challenging to fly than jets. What kind of airplanes do you fly? 🙂 --- MSFS | DCS | X-plane 12
November 19, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, NorwegianAviator said: Most airlines probably wont even go this high. Landing an airplane at maximum crosswind component requires skills and experience, and won't be a very pleasant experience for your passengers. I don't know which airline you are flying for, but I don't know any airline which would be happy if their pilots would divert if it's not necessary, especially if a few hundred passengers are concerned. X-plane makes you believe that a 35kts crosswind landing requires a high amount of skill and experience but this isn't the case IRL. LR pilots sometimes get only 2-3 landings per month, and that after a 10hr flight so it would be bad if a 777, 747 would be as difficult to land IRL as in x-plane. Simple push off the crab angle prior or during the flare and that's it.
November 19, 20187 yr 14 minutes ago, FDEdev said: Now I'm curious. Which airline is this? I don't know any 747-400 operator which has such a low crosswind limit. Most 747-400 operators have a 40kts T/O and 36kts LND limit. Not going to argue about that, since I've never flown a 747. But I'm pretty sure they won't land a 747 with 36 knots crosswind component on a slippery runway. --- MSFS | DCS | X-plane 12
November 19, 20187 yr 5 minutes ago, NorwegianAviator said: I'm pretty sure they won't land a 747 with 36 knots crosswind component on a slippery runway. Don't know why you are suddenly switching to a different runway condition and I don't know what a 'slippery' runway condition is. Maybe you mean a 'wet' runway, and even in this case the crosswind limit for the 747-400 with most operators is still more than 30kts. Edited November 19, 20187 yr by FDEdev
November 19, 20187 yr 3 minutes ago, FDEdev said: I don't know which airline you are flying for, but I don't know any airline which would be happy if their pilots would divert if it's not necessary, especially if a few hundred passengers are concerned. X-plane makes you believe that a 35kts crosswind landing requires a high amount of skill and experience but this isn't the case IRL. LR pilots sometimes get only 2-3 landings per month, and that after a 10hr flight so it would be bad if a 777, 747 would be as difficult to land IRL as in x-plane. Simple push off the crab angle prior or during the flare and that's it. Safety always comes first. And most airlines also would like to see their passengers again. How much skill and experience is required all depends on what type of aircraft you are flying, the conditions etc. What type of aircraft do you fly? --- MSFS | DCS | X-plane 12
November 19, 20187 yr 39 minutes ago, jcomm said: It's not that bad... and in some aspects IMO better done in FSX than in XP... Compare these to RW videos... Hi Folks, OMG - those videos are a most excellent recreation of the RW crosswind videos - WOW - I'm surprised how close they are - nice job ! Regards, Scott Edited November 19, 20187 yr by scottb613
November 19, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, FDEdev said: Don't know why you are suddenly switching to a different runway condition and I don't know what a 'slippery' runway condition is. Maybe you mean a 'wet' runway, and even in this case the crosswind limit for the 747-400 with most operators is still more than 30kts. You could be right, I'm not 747 rated so I won't argue. Are you a 747 pilot by the way? --- MSFS | DCS | X-plane 12
November 19, 20187 yr Author Well, thanks for the interesting replies. My sense after seeing all of this, on an XP forum no less, is that it makes most sense for me to stay w/ P3D for the foreseeable future. Cheers Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
November 19, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, scottb613 said: Hi Folks, OMG - those videos are a most excellent recreation of the RW crosswind videos - WOW - I'm sujrprised how close they are - nice job ! Regards, Scott Here's the XP version, but you can't really judge by watching youtube videos: --- MSFS | DCS | X-plane 12
November 19, 20187 yr 4 minutes ago, NorwegianAviator said: 1. Safety always comes first. And most airlines also would like to see their passengers again. 2. What type of aircraft do you fly? 1. Correct and that's why the crosswind limit is usually already way lower than what the airplane can actually handle. 2. Dash7/8, 767, Metro, etc, Edited November 19, 20187 yr by FDEdev
November 19, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, FDEdev said: 2. Dash7/8, 767, Metro, etc, For the same company? --- MSFS | DCS | X-plane 12
November 19, 20187 yr ? Don't know any company which such a strange fleet mix. These are just a few of the types that accumulated over the last few decades.
November 19, 20187 yr Which was the reason why I was asking. Is this real life experience for an airline or sim? --- MSFS | DCS | X-plane 12
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