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FSX Demo code said to be old

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Is there something wrong with your shift/capslock key?

> WHY THERE will be BAD REVIEWS is all...Erm, correct me if I am wrong, but FS2004 did not have aircraft damage enabled (by default), and not a single review had anything bad to say about that. (As you recall, you had to hack the aircraft.cfg files to enable crash damage, something not yet discovered when the reviews were being written)

Yeah, it's approved for training if you can afford the $150,000 setup.The sim engine used in a FTD is not nearly as important as some would make it out to be. My flight school uses an extremely outdated AST-100 generic twin engine simulator for twin engine procedure practice, as well as instrument practice. It is approved for logging time for either initial instrument training, as well as recurrent instrument training. Yet it's flight characteristics are laughable, at best. FS9's dynamics are far superior. X-Plane has it's own shortcomings in flight modeling that I won't go into here. However, I do laud Austin Meyer's efforts in getting that approval. It was a great marketing ploy on his part. Edit: This doesn't apply to simulators that are designed and used to give specific training for a certain aircraft. In such a sim, dynamics certainly ARE very important.

"as real as it gets" and all that old malarkey...I'd like to see the consequence of a heavy landing, it might even help imprint the skill of landing, as opposed to fly at the runway...I think a fireballing plane at the end of a 7 hour virtual flight would be a definate dot in the log books though...

APPARANTLY NONE of you with those responses can read CONTEXT. YES there is something wrong with my CAPS key when there needs to be. DO YOU KNOW HOW TO READ? That is SHOUTING since I can't say it normally I figured I would shout!I AM NOT A GAMER that needs targeting and PROBABLY not you either but you need to learn how to read. I NEVER SAID I NEEDED CRASHING! Microsoft wanted to market this to gamers, then MAKE IT TARGETED WITh GAMERS IN MIND!End of responses and I'm sure there will be others that can't read this either and attack me as well. Good luck.Carmine http://forums.avsim.net/images/wave.gif

ALL of THIS caps LOCK stuff IS getting VERY irritating. CAN'T you JUST learn TO communicate WITHOUT having TO capitalize EVERY other WORD?NO?!?!?!? :-roll:-outta

The complaining at their forums has nothing to do with whats in the game, it has to do with the demo having terrible performance.

it's not.It's the combination of the software and a lot of very expensive hardware that is.If Microsoft were interested they could get FS2004 certified like that as well.In fact MSFS is used by the US Navy and US Air Force for prescreening pilot applicants...And I believe it's also used by other organisations around the world for the same purpose.

they do, there are complaints there too that there are no nice fireballs and damaged buildings when a train crashes...

>I read in a NG (agmfs) that the demo code is old and released>for gamers..its not the real thing for us "simmers"...Could>that be true? Why would MS treat us like this? If so will MS>release a demo with the real code to quell the mounting>dissatisfaction especially as it relates to performance/fps?>>Hopefully Mike tdragger can shed some light on this as he has>always been quite forthcoming with sharing what he can>>thanks>>Bill>>PS Edit ..the person who posted the info is an MS/FS MVP and>beta testerSeriously, why would we do that? The demo code is the same as the full product. In fact it's even newer than what our beta testers have. Sheesh. ;)

>>I read in a NG (agmfs) that the demo code is old and>released>>for gamers..its not the real thing for us "simmers"...Could>>that be true? Why would MS treat us like this? If so will MS>>release a demo with the real code to quell the mounting>>dissatisfaction especially as it relates to performance/fps?>>>>Hopefully Mike tdragger can shed some light on this as he>has>>always been quite forthcoming with sharing what he can>>>>thanks>>>>Bill>>>>PS Edit ..the person who posted the info is an MS/FS MVP and>>beta tester>>>Seriously, why would we do that? The demo code is the same as>the full product. In fact it's even newer than what our beta>testers have. Sheesh. ;)Well I am glad to hear that and if thats so then we really still have some serious frame rate issues and the release will perform close to the demo :-)ThanksBill

"The demo code is the same as the full product. In fact it's even newer than what our beta testers have. Sheesh."Wow... That's not good news. :-hmmm We may have another FS2000 on our hands... One island performs terrible on all but 2+gig Athlons and 3+gig Intel chips. Can you imagine the New York area with add-ons installed...

Can you please whine some more?They have 2 months to optimize the code more and fix some bugs. I can almost guarantee some of which are causing some of the performance issues.Even if it didn't get a whole lot better this game is a software title in which hardware will grow into.... not the other way around.Minus the bugs I really didn't have much of a performance issue even with my old PC.

Hope that wherever you get it has a liberal return/cancellation policy. :(I just hope there's enough room in this code so we can hear ATC say "American Thirteen-Eighty-Eight"Yeah this isn't going away. :(

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