February 7, 20197 yr Author Also have just done a SFC scan and it fixed all these corrupted drivers - 2019-02-07 10:07:11, Info CSI 000053df [SR] Verify and Repair Transaction completed. All files and registry keys listed in this transaction have been successfully repaired 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS Trusted Installer is shutting down because: SHUTDOWN_REASON_AUTOSTOP 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS TiWorker signaled for shutdown, going to exit. 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: ExecutionEngineFinalize 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS Execution Engine Finalize 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS Execution Engine Finalize 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS Ending the TiWorker main loop. 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS Starting TiWorker finalization. 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: ManifestCacheFinalize 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: ExecutionEngineFinalize 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CBS Engine already deativated 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CBS Engine already deativated 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: ComponentAnalyzerFinalize 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: PackageTrackerFinalize 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: CoreResourcesUnload 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: SessionManagerFinalize 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: CapabilityManagerFinalize 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: PublicObjectMonitorFinalize 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: Enter vCoreInitializeLock 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: WcpUnload 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: DrupUnload 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: CfgMgr32Unload 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: DpxUnload 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: SrUnload 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: CbsEsdUnload 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: CbsTraceInfoUninitialize 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: CbsEventUnregister 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: AppContainerUnload 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS CbsCoreFinalize: WdsUnload, logging from cbscore will end. 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS Ending TiWorker finalization. 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS Ending the TrustedInstaller main loop. 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS Starting TrustedInstaller finalization. 2019-02-07 10:09:12, Info CBS Ending TrustedInstaller finalization.
February 7, 20197 yr Yes, try one stick at a time to see which throws up that BSOD error. You'll soon have the problem solved. If neither stick throws up that BSOD, then I'd suspect your motherboard memory controller. Depending on which make of motherboard it is, you may need to get the BIOS updated/flashed, etc. Hope this helps. Rick Almeida
February 7, 20197 yr 8 minutes ago, JAJ_TV said: Once again thanks for the help! No sweat. Welcome. Rick Almeida
February 7, 20197 yr Author 1 hour ago, vc10man said: Yes, try one stick at a time to see which throws up that BSOD error. You'll soon have the problem solved. If neither stick throws up that BSOD, then I'd suspect your motherboard memory controller. Depending on which make of motherboard it is, you may need to get the BIOS updated/flashed, etc. Hope this helps. So tested both sticks neither one throwing up BSOD ill chuck both in again and see if i can get it to BSOD if not i guess its MB
February 7, 20197 yr Author 2 hours ago, vc10man said: Yes, try one stick at a time to see which throws up that BSOD error. You'll soon have the problem solved. If neither stick throws up that BSOD, then I'd suspect your motherboard memory controller. Depending on which make of motherboard it is, you may need to get the BIOS updated/flashed, etc. Hope this helps. 3 hours ago, Jim Young said: I do not think a bad OC will cause a BSOD. Bad OC's usually result in an NTDLL.dll error or StackHash. Think bad memory stick but then the BSOD Code indicates Windows was being updated and there are now driver issues. OP updated all drivers but did not check for corrupted windows drivers. Right ive tired both sticks by themselves but were fine put them both in and BSOD again - im stuck for what to do!
February 7, 20197 yr What did I just say above? If both sticks are okay, then its most probably the motherboard memory controller, in which case first try a BIOS update, or replace the motherboard. Are the afore-mentioned help suggestions so difficult to follow or understand? It's not rocket science😀 Edited February 7, 20197 yr by vc10man Rick Almeida
February 7, 20197 yr Author 23 minutes ago, vc10man said: What did I just say above? If both sticks are okay, then its most probably the motherboard memory controller, in which case first try a BIOS update, or replace the motherboard. Are the afore-mentioned help suggestions so difficult to follow or understand? It's not rocket science😀 Yeah im just having one of those days right just updated the MB lets give it another try and see what happens ill update with any results i encounter
February 7, 20197 yr Great. That's the +ve way to resolve issues, or seek help. Well Done. Rick Almeida
February 7, 20197 yr Author 30 minutes ago, vc10man said: Great. That's the +ve way to resolve issues, or seek help. Well Done. Right initial results looking good still in the sim etc going to now try to a short 1 journey if it doesn't BSOD during the trip i would believe the issue is fixed, once again thanks for all your help!
February 7, 20197 yr 11 minutes ago, JAJ_TV said: Right initial results looking good still in the sim etc going to now try to a short 1 journey if it doesn't BSOD during the trip i would believe the issue is fixed, once again thanks for all your help! Good to know, because I have known RAM issues causing MemTest86 failures due to simple things like dirt, etc in the memory slots. Hopefully, re-seating the modules has resolved any BSOD issues. Rick Almeida
February 7, 20197 yr Another thing I'd do is bump up the memory voltage just a little bit. It looks like the memory might be running right on the ragged edge of stability. Try bumping it up maybe a hundredth of a volt. Another possibility is to leave it at its current voltage and reduce the clock speed slightly. Those corrupted drivers are a bad sign, though...a faulty memory module can cause progressive corruption of files on the computer, and who knows what else might have been affected beyond the drivers while operating with that misbehaving RAM. As far as BSODs, yes, they absolutely can be and quite often are caused by hardware...I don't know any serious overclockers that haven't seen a BSOD while pushing a system to its limits in a clocking drill. In fact, certain types of BSODs are important clues as to what parts of the mobo aren't keeping up...some are associated with CPU core, some with uncore, etc. BSODs associated with IRQ_NOT_EQUAL_TO errors are often associated with failing video cards. And so on. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
February 7, 20197 yr OP states he only gets BSOD's with P3Dv4.4 and we all know for a fact it cannot be P3Dv4.4 that causes BSOD's. However, if you are adding 32 bit software that is not backward compatible, that should cause a crash but not sure it would be a BSOD. I would suspect if a third party program that is not 64 bit might affect drivers required to operate that program. I recently spent hours searching for the cause of my BSOD's and it was a bad memory module. The system read it as if it was working perfectly and tests were not crashing the system, but, when removing it, the crashes stopped and my system has been working perfectly since then. BSOD's can be frustrating for sure! Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
February 7, 20197 yr Author 1 hour ago, Jim Young said: OP states he only gets BSOD's with P3Dv4.4 and we all know for a fact it cannot be P3Dv4.4 that causes BSOD's. However, if you are adding 32 bit software that is not backward compatible, that should cause a crash but not sure it would be a BSOD. I would suspect if a third party program that is not 64 bit might affect drivers required to operate that program. I recently spent hours searching for the cause of my BSOD's and it was a bad memory module. The system read it as if it was working perfectly and tests were not crashing the system, but, when removing it, the crashes stopped and my system has been working perfectly since then. BSOD's can be frustrating for sure! 4 hours ago, w6kd said: Another thing I'd do is bump up the memory voltage just a little bit. It looks like the memory might be running right on the ragged edge of stability. Try bumping it up maybe a hundredth of a volt. Another possibility is to leave it at its current voltage and reduce the clock speed slightly. Those corrupted drivers are a bad sign, though...a faulty memory module can cause progressive corruption of files on the computer, and who knows what else might have been affected beyond the drivers while operating with that misbehaving RAM. As far as BSODs, yes, they absolutely can be and quite often are caused by hardware...I don't know any serious overclockers that haven't seen a BSOD while pushing a system to its limits in a clocking drill. In fact, certain types of BSODs are important clues as to what parts of the mobo aren't keeping up...some are associated with CPU core, some with uncore, etc. BSODs associated with IRQ_NOT_EQUAL_TO errors are often associated with failing video cards. And so on. Regards Thanks for all this help guys! I've done tests which each RAM chip in one by one but would never cause a BSOD however when putting both in together again it caused a BSOD but have done a BIOS update and now I've been able to do a whole flight on Ultra everything (was trying to see if it would BSOD) So I'm hoping that has fixed it, ill update with more flights etc but I'm hoping it has now been sorted with the update! Once again thanks for the help its really appreciated!
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