September 5, 200619 yr Can someone give me the name of some airports with some difficult high altitude approaches in the mountains??? This can be anywhere in the world. I just wanna shoot some exciting approaches.
September 5, 200619 yr Sion and Samedan Switzerland. Sion is amazing, especially in less than desirable weather condition. You may not see the runway until about 500-1,000 above it, from a 12,000 ft +/- ILS intercept.
September 5, 200619 yr If you want altitude try Quito in Ecuador (SEQU). Its altitude is 9202ft (2805m).I remember lunching in the Quito Golf and Tennis Club and looking down on aircraft on final approach.The charts are available for free in Spanish. I have them but can't remember where I got them. A quick google should find them. Gerry Howard
September 5, 200619 yr Author Quito (I second that suggestion)La Paz, BoliviaMedellin, ColombiaCatacamas, Honduras (unlandable in FS9 with add-on mesh)Lukla, in the Himalayas (there is commercial add-on for this)Innsbruck, Austria (get charts for this one too)Mountain Air, North Carolina, USA (you have to see to believe).I have done many hours of simflying in the spine of the Andes and I can tell you there are dozens of high-alt approaches up there, both big airports and small ones.If you have add-on mesh, Catacamas in Honduras is in a huge hole...not really landable unless you have VTOL.Medellin, La Paz are both big high-alt airports I have flown DC-8 freighters into on occasion. Medellin has 2 airports...the big new one is the higher altitude one I believe.Quito airport has a big active volcano nearby, and in real life, I have seen PIREPs about ash and smoke in the vicinity...think that was last year when it erupted a little bit.RhettAMD 3700+, eVGA 7800GT 256, ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2 GB Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8, etc. etc. Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
September 6, 200619 yr But SKMD in downtown Medellin surrounded by mountain is more fun - though definitely in a very small jet or turboprop - no DC-8's there.SPZO - Alejandro Velazco Astete at Cuzco, Peru is an interesting one - I prefer landing on 28 because the drop over the hills to land on 10 is too steep for me. At 10,860 ft ASL - it's high and thin.For REAL fun - take a heavy into / out of El Alto International in La Paz, Bolivia - SLLP. 13,313 ft ASL is the highest real commercial airport in the world. Not a lot of challenges in the terrain - but a fully loaded B747 is a handful at that airport in FS - probably worse in the real world. 13,116 ft of runway may not be enough.I can hardly wait for the A380 tests there in the real world.You will need addon packages - try searching for Jan Martin as the author in the library - for the two airports in Tibet.A real interesting approach is VQPR - Paro, the capital city of the nation of Bhutan. They fly real BAe 146 and A320 into that airport !!!!No ILS at most of these airport - so the final will be visual - looking between the mountains and up at the peaks.
September 6, 200619 yr Take Milton Shupe's Dash 7 into Courchevel. You can find the freeware Courchevel by Neuroflight or if you don't mind spending some money I can highly recommend LLH's Alpes 1 which has Courchevel and Megeve in superb quality. These are both sloped runways with no provision for missed approach or margin for error. I've been having a blast flying the new Safir into them. Dr Zane Gard Sr Staff Reviewer AVSIM Private Pilot ASEL since 1986 IFR 2010 AOPA 00915027 American Mensa 100314888
September 6, 200619 yr Try KTEX (Telluride, CO) El 9078ft.Usual approach is to RW 9No Tower and no night flyingNDB or GPS approach.No Large aircraftReal world video around.Have funBrian
September 6, 200619 yr thanks for all the responses!! I am going to have to try some of these out tonight.
September 6, 200619 yr How about Kathmandu, Nepal (VNKT). Difficult, yes! Pakistan and Thai both crashed large airliners (Airbus 300's I think) during approach in bad weather (controlled flight into terrain) :(Andrew Herd has a great series on dangerous approaches. Here's the one on Kathmandu.http://www.flightsim.com/cgi/kds?$=main/howto/katm/katm.htm
September 6, 200619 yr Author >>For REAL fun - take a heavy into / out of El Alto>International in La Paz, Bolivia - SLLP. 13,313 ft ASL is the>highest real commercial airport in the world. Not a lot of>challenges in the terrain - but a fully loaded B747 is a>handful at that airport in FS - probably worse in the real>world. 13,116 ft of runway may not be enough.>Yes that's why I mentioned La Paz to him...I have found La Paz to be a real challenge with a heavy. If I were flying a 747 out of there, I would not load it fully--of course I have *maybe* 15 simhours on a 747 in the whole history of flight sim. :) Flying the DC-8 out of there, on a pretty long flight like SLLP-->KMIA I often use a reduced fuel load, even if that means I have to stop for fuel in Caracas or something like that.I wonder if this is done in the real-world out of La Paz.RhettAMD 3700+, eVGA 7800GT 256, ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2 GB Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8, etc. etc. Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
September 6, 200619 yr >Mountain Air, North Carolina, USA (you have to see to>believe).[a href=http://www.airnav.com/airport/2NC0]This Mountain Air?[/a]Here's a fun one. You'll want to bring a 737 to 767 ( size-wise ):KBTM - Bert Mooney in Butte, MontanaIt sits inside a valley ( [a href=http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&z=11&ll=45.954806,-112.497472&spn=0.22532,0.462799&t=k&om=1]Google view[/a] )You cross Coopertown VOR/DME at ~8500 ft heading ~110. Fly for about 10 nm or so. You'll start your way down to ~7000 as you go parallel to the airport. Fly until you see a big hill ( small mountain? ) in front of you. You'll want to make a hard left to fly parallel to it. Fly until you reach the butte ( hence the city name ). This is where you'll make roughly a 110-120 degree left turn on to final. You will have roughly 3 or 4 miles until touchdown at 5550 ft so plan your final descent accordingly. Edited out the Google map alterationThe winds often support this visual approach. A buddy of mine used to fly into there with a 727 when he flew for NWA many years ago. He showed me the approach he used to fly into there. I don't recall the visual approach name anymore but it was ( if it isn't still ) a legit visual approach. The runway is 9000 feet long so there's no worries about being able to handle a 767. Don't try to take off outta there on a hot day though. ;)
September 6, 200619 yr Author >>Mountain Air, North Carolina, USA (you have to see to>>believe).>[a href=http://www.airnav.com/airport/2NC0]This Mountain>Air?[/a]>Yeah THAT Mountain Air. It's the highest airfield east of the Mississippi. To those of you reading this, it's an airfield located on a mountaintop, basically. Worth flying into/out of in FS.>Here's a fun one. You'll want to bring a 737 to 767 (>size-wise ):>>KBTM - Bert Mooney in Butte, Montana>Never flew into KBTM in FS but I should. It sounds like a hard approach. I'll have to bring something I am familiar with...Maybe I'll do a KDEN--->KBTM tonight in a Northwest A320...sounds like a planRhettAMD 3700+, eVGA 7800GT 256, ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2 GB Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8, etc. etc. Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
September 9, 200619 yr Author >>Mountain Air, North Carolina, USA (you have to see to>>believe).>[a href=http://www.airnav.com/airport/2NC0]This Mountain>Air?[/a]>>Here's a fun one. You'll want to bring a 737 to 767 (>size-wise ):>>KBTM - Bert Mooney in Butte, Montana>>You cross Coopertown VOR/DME at ~8500 ft heading ~110. Fly>for about 10 nm or so. You'll start your way down to ~7000 as>you go parallel to the airport. Fly until you see a big hill>( small mountain? ) in front of you. You'll want to make a>hard left to fly parallel to it. Fly until you reach the>butte ( hence the city name ). This is where you'll make>roughly a 110-120 degree left turn on to final. You will have>roughly 3 or 4 miles until touchdown at 5550 ft so plan your>final descent accordingly. >>The winds often support this visual approach. A buddy of mine>used to fly into there with a 727 when he flew for NWA many>years ago. He showed me the approach he used to fly into>there. I don't recall the visual approach name anymore but it>was ( if it isn't still ) a legit visual approach. >JeffI did a short flight from Great Falls to Butte (KBTM) the other day in a Cessna 182 and then in a Beech King Air. I see what you mean!! I did the ILS RWY15 published approach, and just for kicks I did a few circuits in the holding pattern at Coppertown VOR. Anyway I should look up this visual approach you speak of, because the ILS one wasn't super exciting, although it was a little, with some terrain on the glidepath.The MYNER intersection has an interesting landform near it--what looks to be a big open strip mine pit. (I use SRTM 76m mesh). Maybe that's why it's called MYNER??RhettAMD 3700+, eVGA 7800GT 256, ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2 GB Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8, etc. etc. Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
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