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GTN750/650 Prepar3dv4.5 Does not work! (resolved)

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Hello there,

I recently bougt the RealityXP GTN750/650 from the official website. After installing the setup, I tried to get it to work with my GA Aircraft Addons (A2A Cherokee 180 & Carenado Beech Bonanza F33A) which as a result wasn't that succesful.

When I tried to install it in the Carenado Bonanza, the GTN650 Unit just stays black, even as i switcht in the configuration-UI to "always on" and the imigration of the Unit in the Panal doesn't look very good and I have absolutly no idea, how to change or configurize that (even after I read the Manual PDF).

As I Tried to put the Unit into the A2A Cherokee I first had nearly the same problem like in the Bonanza, until I looked around in Forums where I found a solution how to fix that Problem at an A2A Comanche (https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/532649-gtn-750-for-the-a2a-250-comanche/). After I read his changes, which he did in the files, I made exactly the same changes in my files for the A2A Cherokee aswell. The changes were only about deleting the "F1" infornt of the "GTN750" and repalce it by "rxp". I launched my Sim and first was happy, cause the GTN750 Unit was working now, but sadly now some of the switches in the Cockpit aswell as the A2A "Panel Views" (Like Hangar view, refill view, etc.) wern't working any longer. 

I hope someone has some similar problems. Here also some screenshots, maybe it helps to understand my problem. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xp2nuts6akwlh9k/AAD-yYPaM1l6V0rV_ZWXpe-Ba?dl=0

If someone from RealityXP reads this: I'm disappoinoted of the GTN750/650! Especially because on the Website is written how easy the installation is and that it works with any aircraft... And also the Manual doesn't give that much help by installation cause it only shows you what windows you can open and what the different tick-boxes stand for (which is kind of obvious but anyway).

I hope someone of you can help me, cause if not I will try to refund it, because I don't have that much knowledge when it comes to such programming things :/

Thanks:)

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@stayyn 
The Carenado F33A doesn't allow for the GTN 650 to be installed. That's why you see the Carenado GNS 430 knobs. That's one of Carenado's older products and didn't allow for 3rd party gauges.

The link you provided above is for the Comanche.
As for the A2A Cherokee 180 go here: A2A Cherokee 180 configuration for the GTN 650/750. Go to the bottom of the page. From there download A2A180_RXP_GTN.zip. At the upper right side of the Dropbox page is the download button.

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P3Dv4.5.13.32097 ASP4, ASCA, A2A, Milviz, PMDG 7's, RealityXP GNS/GTN, SimElite Solutions TZF

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42 minutes ago, BillS511 said:

@stayyn 
The Carenado F33A doesn't allow for the GTN 650 to be installed. That's why you see the Carenado GNS 430 knobs. That's one of Carenado's older products and didn't allow for 3rd party gauges.

The link you provided above is for the Comanche.
As for the A2A Cherokee 180 go here: A2A Cherokee 180 configuration for the GTN 650/750. Go to the bottom of the page. From there download A2A180_RXP_GTN.zip. At the upper right side of the Dropbox page is the download button.

That is not accurate.. you can remove the 3d knobs in the F33, and the GTN650 will work nicely.

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@Bert Pieke

Okay that would be pretty nice if that‘s possible. 
Do you have a link or some knowledge on how to do it? Would be great Thanks:)

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@BillS511

Okay I completly reinstalled the A2A Cherokee and followed the instructions in the post you sent me. Now the GTN750 is integrated totaly fine in my A2A Cherokee, but now there are now Waypoints, VORs, NDBs, Airports so at all absolutly no NavData.

Do you have an idea how I can fix that?

Thanks so far! 🙂

 

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1 hour ago, stayyn said:

@BillS511

Okay I completly reinstalled the A2A Cherokee and followed the instructions in the post you sent me. Now the GTN750 is integrated totaly fine in my A2A Cherokee, but now there are now Waypoints, VORs, NDBs, Airports so at all absolutly no NavData.

Do you have an idea how I can fix that?

Thanks so far! 🙂

 

Have you tried reinstalling? Also the GTN trainer? http://download.garmin.com/software/GarminTrainerSetup_2400.exe

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P3Dv4.5.13.32097 ASP4, ASCA, A2A, Milviz, PMDG 7's, RealityXP GNS/GTN, SimElite Solutions TZF

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16 hours ago, stayyn said:

@Bert Pieke

Okay that would be pretty nice if that‘s possible. 
Do you have a link or some knowledge on how to do it? Would be great Thanks:)

There is a "For Customization" folder in your F33 folder.

Choose the no 3d knobs model.

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@Bert Pieke

First thanks for your respond! I’ll remove this 3d knobs for sure! 

But it won‘t solve my main problem that the screen stays totally black, even if I go to the UI and say „always on“.

Do you have also an idea of that? Would be great! 🙂

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9 hours ago, stayyn said:

@Bert Pieke

First thanks for your respond! I’ll remove this 3d knobs for sure! 

But it won‘t solve my main problem that the screen stays totally black, even if I go to the UI and say „always on“.

Do you have also an idea of that? Would be great! 🙂

Can you post the contents of the panel.cfg from the Carenado Bonanza?

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Of course, here you go!

 

//*********************************************************
// CARENADO NEW BONANZA F33A FSX
// Copyright © Carenado 2010 - All Rights Reserved
//*********************************************************


[Window Titles]
Window00=MiniPanel
Window01=GPS
Window02=Toggle_AP
Window03=Toggle_Manual
Window04=Toggle_Control
Window05=INFO

 


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window00]
file=panel.bmp
size_mm=1070,636
window_size_ratio=1.000  
position=0
visible=0
ident=100
window_size= 0.520, 0.347
window_pos= 0.260, 0.640
zorder=15

gauge00=BonF33!Airspeed,  47,72,224,224
gauge01=BonF33!Attitude,  286,72,229,227
gauge02=BonF33!Vertical Speed,  526,312,250,250
gauge03=BonF33!Turn Coordinator,  48,325,224,224
gauge04=BonF33!RPM Indicator,  788,316,239,239
gauge05=BonF33!Manifold_fuelflow,  787,72,233,233
gauge06=BonF33!Horizontal Situation Indicator,  286,317,228,228
gauge07=BonF33!Altimeter,  541,75,228,226


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=500,266
window_size_ratio=1.000  
position=0
visible=0
ident=794
window_size= 0.300, 0.220
window_pos= 0.010, 0.455
zorder=0

gauge00=C185!Toggle_GPS,  35,69,329,246
gauge01=rxpGTN!GTN_650_1, 0, 0,500,266
gauge02=BonF33!Toggle_GPS,  136,45,217,153


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1169,250
window_size_ratio=1.000  
position=0
visible=0
ident=795
window_size= 0.220, 0.063
window_pos= 0.015, 0.720
zorder=0

gauge00=C185!Toggle_AP,  333,1,35,35
gauge01=BonF33!Autopilot,  0,0,1169,250


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window03]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=780,780
window_size_ratio=1.000  
position=0
visible=0
ident=793
window_size= 0.391, 0.521
window_pos= 0.610, 0.020
zorder=5

gauge00=F33Manual!manual,  0,0,780,780


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window04]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=598,188
window_size_ratio=1.000  
position=0
visible=0
ident=796
window_size= 0.391, 0.164
window_pos= 0.010, 0.160
zorder=5

gauge00=BonF33!Control_windows,  0,0,598,188


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window05]
file=info.bmp
size_mm=419,181
window_size_ratio=1.000  
position=0
visible=1
ident=142
window_size= 0.290, 0.129
window_pos= 0.010, 0.020

 

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
visible=0
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$Panel_bon_1

gauge00=BonF33!Altimeter,  4,343,166,165
gauge01=BonF33!Horizontal Situation Indicator,  345,3,163,163
gauge02=BonF33!Turn Coordinator,  176,3,164,164
gauge03=BonF33!Vertical Speed,  173,342,164,164
gauge04=BonF33!RadarAltitude,  6,174,165,165
gauge05=BonF33!RMI,  5,4,165,166
gauge06=BonF33!Airspeed,  344,169,164,165
gauge07=BonF33!Attitude,  341,337,167,171
gauge08=BonF33!temp,  175,172,165,165


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
visible=0
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$Panel_bon_2

gauge00=BonF33!prop_amps,  245,221,135,124
gauge01=BonF33!EGT,  123,268,119,118
gauge02=BonF33!small_clocks,  2,390,119,118
gauge03=BonF33!Manifold_fuelflow,  383,221,124,124
gauge04=BonF33!Gyro,  124,390,118,118
gauge05=BonF33!compass,  90,126,71,46
gauge06=BonF33!RPM Indicator,  2,268,118,118
gauge07=BonF33!fuel_indicator_L,  386,2,122,121
gauge08=BonF33!fuel_indicator_R,  132,2,122,121
gauge09=BonF33!Flap_indicator,  3,122,81,81
gauge10=BonF33!Altimeter2,  258,2,124,121
gauge11=BF33_Trans!transponder,  3,205,250,61
gauge12=BonF33!vor2,  249,373,135,135
gauge13=BonF33!Ignition Switch,  395,392,105,105
gauge14=BonF33!Trim,  3,  2 ,51,117


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit03]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
visible=0
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$Panel_bon_3

gauge00=BonF33!Radios2,  3,283,331,110
gauge01=BonF33!adf1,  2,143,330,67
gauge02=BonF33!adf2,  3,213,330,67
gauge03=BonF33!AOM,  142,2,366,80
gauge04=FFF33!fuelflow,  339,124,160,160
gauge05=BonF33!Gear_Up_Warning,  384,309,74,21
gauge06=BonF33!gear_center_light,  189,96,31,31
gauge07=BonF33!gear_left_light,  146,96,31,31
gauge08=BonF33!gear_right_light,  229,96,31,31
gauge09=BonF33!Gear_Transition,  272,96,31,31
gauge10=BonF33!GEM,  2,2,117,117


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit04]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
visible=0
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$Panel_bon_4

gauge00=rxpGTN!GTN_650_1, 6,125,500,266
gauge01=BonF33!vs,  262,394,236,106
gauge02=BonF33!Autopilot,  2,70,262,56
gauge03=BonF33!DME_screen,  3,396,256,100
gauge04=BonF33!Panel_annuanciator,  266,37,243,90
gauge05=BonF33!Toggle_GPS,  116,160,275,169
gauge06=BonF33!Auto_taxi_onoff,  0,0,275,169

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit05]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
visible=0
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$Panel_bon_5

gauge00=BonF33!Clock,  6,37,496,434



Day=255,255,255
Night=223,215,182
Luminous=255,255,255

[Default View]
X=0
Y=0
SIZE_X=8191
SIZE_Y=3743

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@BillS511

I reinstalled now everything so the A2A Cherokee aswell as the RXP GTN/750 but it still got no Navdata 😕. Otherwise it works totally fine with the Plane. Whene I go at the GTN750 to Utilities → Logs → Flight Data Log, it says in the MSG window "Flight data log export failed".

Do you have an idea on how to fix that?

Thanks!

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3 hours ago, stayyn said:

Do you have an idea on how to fix that?

Did you do a custom installation of either the RXP product or of the Garmin Trainer.  i.e. custom location?


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3 hours ago, stayyn said:

@BillS511

I reinstalled now everything so the A2A Cherokee aswell as the RXP GTN/750 but it still got no Navdata 😕. Otherwise it works totally fine with the Plane. Whene I go at the GTN750 to Utilities → Logs → Flight Data Log, it says in the MSG window "Flight data log export failed".

Do you have an idea on how to fix that?

Thanks!

I also found out that in the direction C:\ProgramData\Garmin\Trainers\Databases there's no files in the logs oder logs_ext folder. Is this normal?

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@fppilot

Yes I changed the recommended dircection of the Garmin Trainer from my C-Drive to the D-Drive on which also my simulator (P3d) is installed. So the Garmin Trainer, the RXP Folder aswell as Prepar3d is on the same drive.

If I open the Garmin Trainer. the GTN works totally fine with the NavData and so on, but sadly not in my simulator.

 

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