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New PC time, what to get?

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I'm in the market for a new flight sim PC. Budget of £2,000, clean sheet, no recyclable components from the current rig (2013 i7-3770k) except the 1TB HDD.

I'll be running P3D and probably MSFS2020 on it. What's the best options?

i7-10700K; RTX 2070 Super; 16GB; P3Dv4.5HF3 & MSFS2020.

In the U.K. I would recommend PC Specialist 

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/

Select your parts, add an overclock, get the 3 yr warranty.

 

they put mine together, with a warrantied overclock, for an extra £100 - £150.

i could of saved that money, but what if I accidentally bent a pin on the processor, or had a leak in the cooling system? Ect ect
It would of cost more than £150 to rectify so it was a no brainer.

and when it arrived, I installed a graphics card, plugged it in and was away...no mountain of boxes to open, no installing anything, no messing about with bios for the overclock..

They will put it through stress testing before sending it out. 

Luke Pype

If your existing PC is running OK, I'd hang on personally.  Aug/Sept will see the Ryzen 4000 series and the Nvidia 30xx series cards released.

 

Graphics cards have never been so expensive, with a 2080 Super costing about £900, which is only marginally faster than a 3 year old 1080ti which was only about £600 when new.

P3D v4.5 MSFS2020 Hisense 50" 4K TV

Ryzen 9600x 64gb DDR5 6000mhz, Asrock B650m HDV/M.2 Gigabyte 16gb 9070XT, Thermalright Aqua Elite 240mm  2TB NVMe Boot/FS2020 Drive, 2TB NVMe P3D Drive.

Saitek Yoke, Pedals, Radio Panel, Switch Panel, 2 x FiPs

UKV6427

The graphics card I put in my new system was more than the previous system altogether !

Luke Pype

44 minutes ago, Charlatan said:

If your existing PC is running OK, I'd hang on personally.  Aug/Sept will see the Ryzen 4000 series and the Nvidia 30xx series cards released.

And hopefully soon thereafter MSFS 2020.  

I feel his pain.  (OP)

I'm stuck right now. My nearly five year old PC (specs in my signature) is now giving me fits with FSX. And only with FSX I cannot seem to finish a flight of any length without a crash.  I suspect hardware, but I also have not been able to get Windows 10 to update since April a year ago (2019).  It fails on one update and cannot get past it to do subsequent updates. The update has much to do with something about Net Framework.  Windows Defender by-the-way does update. 

After way too many hours of fruitless research it appears the update failure may be because I cloned my primary system drive and inadvertently changed partition types (MBR vs GPT or vice-versa). And I have not succeeded in reversing that.  So my remedy will be a new system, and that has to wait right now.  Because of the pandemic, and because of the next advance in simulators and the wait for info about system specs.

Meanwhile I am pretty much grounded.

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On 4/10/2020 at 3:23 AM, lambourne said:

I'm in the market for a new flight sim PC. Budget of £2,000, clean sheet, no recyclable components from the current rig (2013 i7-3770k) except the 1TB HDD.

I'll be running P3D and probably MSFS2020 on it. What's the best options?

Buy the fastest CPU and GPU you can afford.  

Currently, those are the 9900KS and 2080 Ti (not counting Titan RTX which itself costs $2500 and is a few % faster than 2080 Ti).  

As a side note, I bought a 3770k when it came out, de-lidded it, overclocked to 4.9GHz on water, and then made the following upgrades in the time you have been using this one PC for flight sim, all in an effort to get the best flight sim performance.  I feel like we're finally there with the current generation.  

4770k (4.8GHz)

4790k (5.0GHz)

5960x (4.5GHz)

7700k (5.2GHz)

9900k (5.0GHz)

 

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Thanks folks, if there is a glut of new hardware due to hit the market in the next couple of months I might hold off a while.

The current rig is functional, gives about 18-23fps in P3D with the graphics settings all at minimal. But I'd like to enjoy some of the eye candy and get some decent framerates for my landings!

I've been tempted to delid this CPU and see how fast and stable I can get it but by the time I've spent money buying a decent cooling system I may as well put that money towards the new machine.

i7-10700K; RTX 2070 Super; 16GB; P3Dv4.5HF3 & MSFS2020.

The i9 10900K is due out soon (rumored paper launch end of April, availability in May) featuring 10 cores and slightly higher clocks than 9900KS, but good luck getting one.  Basically, if you don't pull the trigger the second they come in stock on Newegg or Amazon you won't be getting one for the first month or two unless you buy from a scalper on Ebay.  Next-gen GPUs from Nvidia are also due out sometime later this year, though details there are less concrete.

Any specs for the i9-10900K? Will they fit LGA1151 socket motherboards? and any idea on what it'll cost? The current i9-9900K run around the $430-$500 range.

ASUS ROG Maximus Hero XII ▪︎ Intel i9-10900K ▪︎ NVIDIA RTX 3090 FE ▪︎ 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro ▪︎ Windows 10 Pro (21H1) ▪︎ Samsung 970 EVO Pro 1TB NVME SSD (OS Drive) ▪︎ Samsung 860 EVO 2TB SATA SSD ▪︎ Seagate 4TB SATA HDD ▪︎ Corsair RMx 850W PSU

The new chips are reported to have issues with heat, they have a new socket, and the leaked prices are the same as for the 9th generation of CPUs. I am thinking of getting 9900k since the prices will drop, and is compatible with my current mobo. 

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Ivan Majetic

ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO; 7900X3D; NZXT KRAKEN ELITE 360, GIGABYTE RTX 4080; G.SKILL TridentZ NEO RGB DDR5 64 Gb, WD HDD 2TB, SAMSUNG 980PRO, SAMSUNG 970EVO Plus 2x, ALIENWARE 3423DWF

8 hours ago, captain420 said:

Any specs for the i9-10900K? Will they fit LGA1151 socket motherboards? and any idea on what it'll cost? The current i9-9900K run around the $430-$500 range.

10 cores, up to 5.3GHz turbo (single core, short periods) up to 5.2GHz under most conditions.

7 hours ago, Johnny19 said:

The new chips are reported to have issues with heat, they have a new socket, and the leaked prices are the same as for the 9th generation of CPUs. I am thinking of getting 9900k since the prices will drop, and is compatible with my current mobo. 

Correction: they are *rumored* to have issues with heat.  People love to speculate and spread rumors, don't believe everything you read on the internet.

Here is information from a more reliable source:

 

Thanks! I'll wait on the CPU and see whether or not I should get the 10900k or 9900k.

ASUS ROG Maximus Hero XII ▪︎ Intel i9-10900K ▪︎ NVIDIA RTX 3090 FE ▪︎ 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro ▪︎ Windows 10 Pro (21H1) ▪︎ Samsung 970 EVO Pro 1TB NVME SSD (OS Drive) ▪︎ Samsung 860 EVO 2TB SATA SSD ▪︎ Seagate 4TB SATA HDD ▪︎ Corsair RMx 850W PSU

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