Simulated Earth the next Frontier?

[Design Planet Earth 2]

No has mention this yet but Microsoft has hinted things on it and other users have suggested what Microsoft wants to do long term. So some ideas

This is a united effort Microsoft cannot do alone. 

1. Why Don't Microsoft open development more like kick starter so it can really bring in all the relevant feedback it needs?

2.it has partner with aviation and tracking companies but why not call in other business like major architect firms? They can put in their models of the city and use it as a way of display their work to other companies and everyone else so much can be done! No need for photographics tricks a full 3d model building to be in the simulate world where it can run efficiently on both client and server. 

3. If companies can hop on then real management of roads etc can finally be set! Any changes down in the real world can be updated in the sim world. Again they will use to display their work and analyze their construction. Each country has a dedicated server in updating and changing their road network. If governments can be shown why this is so beneficial for them it will get the backing support and fund it needs! Traffic issues will never be the same again! 🙂 Things are going digital and virtual reality is making a hit so having a centralize place is the most efficient way of making this all happen. Companies will want to get on board to boost their productivity! If millions get to view their product and business get to see their work as well as the community its huge gain for them. 

4. Just read a link posted by another use on the ecology of the earth that can be put into the simulated earth and maybe prediction can be even faster and more accurate. Everything we eat to what we destroy all recorded in the simulate earth. David Attenbrough will be over the moon as he can do breath taking documentaries not possible in the real world. Tracking animals will be so much more interesting and entertaining as it benefit both commercial and residential users. Want to know where our favorite Deep see fish has gone we can track it in the simulated earth! This can open up for abuse like mass harvesting so protection can be in place to prevent such abuse. Illegal fishery can now be the thing of the past! An elephant being hunted in africa security will know as security will know have the tech to watch and track it in the sim world. 

Too much hunting on a species and there be alerts and notification to the relevant authorities to prevent a mass extinction. And the more eyes the better as not everyone can watch everything. 

5.Digital scan of everything in the known world

Archived of Plant species  

Plants can be digitize and simulated in the sim world and if plants can be brought back to life through cloning this information can be secured and protected. 

6. Where is this all this data stored? 

Each country will have super computers back by the government so all data can be secured and hold there and so alot of the complex calculations that needs to happen as well as the simulation can finally happen. You will need something this powerful to make this all happen.  

7. Open to the Game world. 

This could be the ultimate city builder game as players can help build 3D model for their city and get it approved as the more help the better! And they be alot of 3D modeler who want to help! Just look at cities skyline! Maybe data from the super computer can be used in their game worlds?

Anyway i hope this can happen when business and the community see how useful it all can be! 

Any more ideas you do have on this or is this just way too early to think about?

[RALF9636 2,029]

All good ideas - but let's have a flight simulator first.

I hope they don't try to put too much into the sim already now. It will all delay the release.

I'd be happy with a new generation flightsim with its essential features now. Everything else can be added after release - in the decade to come.

 

Edited May 1, 2020 by RALF9636

[Chock 17,769]

33 minutes ago, Design Planet Earth said:

Digital scan of everything in the known world

Wow, literally everything in the world being scanned? Does this mean we'll all finally know exactly what has fallen down the back of our sofas? 🙂

Joking aside, it is apparent that at least some of that stuff is what MS has in mind, but for all the possibilities and potential, it's not an easy or speedy task by any stretch of the imagination.

 

Edited May 1, 2020 by Chock

[MagentaChild 226]

Totally not feature creep.

[Design Planet Earth 2]

16 minutes ago, Chock said:

Wow, literally everything in the world being scanned? Does this mean we'll all finally know exactly what has fallen down the back of our sofas?

Well they can already do that today just not at a massive scale! 🙂 I can scan your entire suburb and recreate it on the computer. 🙂 Technology can improve if government see its needed!  

Don't fool around mini worlds of our cites have been created and put into games! This is something that is very popular among gamers 

And yes Sofa too as business will be using it to commercialize their product for customers. 🙂 But there will have models for it so scanning is not needed. 

Edited May 1, 2020 by Design Planet Earth

[pracines 823]

I agree with your concept, and these are excellent ideas for when money no longer matters to humans...definitely not in this age. 

Leave it to algorithms to do the work - they require no royalties at all. Fine details can still be achieved, we have seen it for ourselves already.

Getting too many "partners" for ultra fine details would make the price of a flight sim, eventually released on Xbox, to be laughed off the planet. 

[HighBypass 2,339]

Whatever MS (or Big Brother - the ideas do sound rather Orwellian!) wants to do, I'm pretty sure the answer is ...

 

42..

 

[Design Planet Earth 2]

On 5/1/2020 at 9:53 PM, pracines said:

I agree with your concept, and these are excellent ideas for when money no longer matters to humans...definitely not in this age. 

Leave it to algorithms to do the work - they require no royalties at all. Fine details can still be achieved, we have seen it for ourselves already.

Getting too many "partners" for ultra fine details would make the price of a flight sim, eventually released on Xbox, to be laughed off the planet. 

Then i think you did not read my post properly. 🙂 Its very possible as if you were in the 16 century and be told of all the tech we have right now they would too say your insane! 

If the government and business wants to use this as platform for advertising of which they are currently doing it will happen! This is not just for play but for the world economy! 🙂 And science research to predict events in the future and change what things are happening on this Planet. It can be used for many things as we advance in the digital age. 🙂 

Here is something on VR 

Virtual reality is advancing quickly, but I wouldn’t say it’s mainstream yet. What are the biggest obstacles to mass adoption?

A huge part of it is technological, but I don’t think it’s technological in the sense of issues like simulator sickness. When you get above the level of mobile headsets, those things tend to fall away because you have better tracking. The technological hurdle to me is that we lack the ability to flip it off and go or take it out somewhere. The technological hurdle is the pain point of starting things up easily, the way people are comfortable with booting up a PC and with updating Windows and all these other things that have become part of the experience. We need devices that are lighter and cheaper, but ease of use is the biggest production problem.

One other problem is that stigma still exists. It’s kind of the glword not allowed thing revisited, which is the fear of looking crazy with a headset on and not knowing what’s happening outside the headset. Using this in public is a no-go. You do see it on planes, you don’t see it on subways, you don’t see it in coffee shops, despite what commercials will have you believe.

And the third thing is, what can I do to keep me coming back? That’s related to a network effect. Everyone who has gotten a mobile headset knows the experience of downloading all the free stuff they can and going into a virtual museum saying, sure, this is cool. Well, what those things are missing is having someone else in there. When you add this kind of network multiuser experience, it becomes something different. That’s what people are going back in for: social experiences, including ones that aren’t necessarily online games.

I think one of the biggest problems the industry has right now is that VR is thought of purely as a gaming technology, or people see Ready Player One and write it off. For VR to be adopted, it needs to be easy to use and easy to share, it needs to be something you don’t feel weird about using, and it needs to give you something that you really want to do and that thing is almost necessarily going to have other people involved.

The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) today unveiled a powerful, new earth system model that uses the world’s fastest computers so that scientists can better understand how earth system processes interact today and how they may evolve in the future

 

Scientists are trying a new, interactive way to understand ocean current data with the help of high-resolution global ocean simulations. In the part of the global visualization shown, the Loop Current, the origin of the Gulf Stream, features prominently. Surface water speeds are shown ranging from 0 meters per second (dark blue) to 1.25 meters per second (cyan). The video is running at one simulation day per second.

A team from the NASA Advanced Supercomputing (NAS) facility, at Ames Research Center in Silicon Valley, has developed a new visualization tool that is being used by researchers from the Estimating the Circulation and Climate of the Ocean (ECCO) project to study the behavior of ocean currents.

The new visualization tool provides high-resolution views of the entire globe at once, allowing the scientists to see new details that they had missed in previous analyses of their simulation, which was run on NASA’s Pleiades supercomputer.

The visualization is shown on a 10 by 23-foot, 128-screen hyperwall at the NAS facility. By switching the hyperwall view from one global image to displays of single regions, properties such as temperature, surface wind stress, density, and salinity can be clearly identified with high-contrast colors that can be changed instantly.

Pleiades and the high-capacity network bandwidth and data processing capabilities of the hyperwall is one of the most powerful visualization systems in the world, and ECCO scientists use it to discover new ocean features and their effect on the larger ocean system.

The visualization project is a collaboration between NASA’s Ames Research Center in Silicon Valley, NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Boston.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PiCPbrXmis

 

 

 

Edited May 23, 2020 by Design Planet Earth

[Jazz 1,047]

On 5/1/2020 at 11:04 AM, Design Planet Earth said:

2.it has partner with aviation and tracking companies but why not call in other business like major architect firms? They can put in their models of the city and use it as a way of display their work to other companies and everyone else so much can be done!

Buildings that already exist or what they are working on? I don't want this sim to be someones idea of what the world should look like. I want it to represent what the world actually looks like.

On 5/1/2020 at 11:04 AM, Design Planet Earth said:

This could be the ultimate city builder game as players can help build 3D model for their city and get it approved as the more help the better!

NO! This will be a certain way to destroy the performance of the sim.

On 5/1/2020 at 11:04 AM, Design Planet Earth said:

And the more eyes the better as not everyone can watch everything. 

We need less spying, cameras and eyes in my opinion, not more.

Honestly, your suggestions make my skin crawl and as this is the flight sim I have been waiting for my entire life I don't want it hi-jacked by a creepy authoritarian global monitoring and control agenda. I just want to fly complex pretend planes in a virtual world that looks like the real one. I don't need to know where Dumbo the elephant actually is or whether he's chipped his tusk slipping on a rock and I wouldn't use a piece of software that was reporting hungry people to "authorities" for growing or cutting too much corn in an area some enviromentalist has decreed unacceptable.

This is a flight sim. Peddle your horrid Orewllian nightmare somehwere else. Things are already bad enough and getting worse without ideas like this.

 

[ludekbrno 302]

3 hours ago, Design Planet Earth said:

Then i think you did not read my post properly. 🙂 Its very possible as if you were in the 16 century and be told of all the tech we have right now they would too say your insane! 

If the government and business wants to use this as platform for advertising of which they are currently doing it will happen! This is not just for play but for the world economy! 🙂 And science research to predict events in the future and change what things are happening on this Planet. It can be used for many things as we advance in the digital age. 🙂 

Here is something on VR 

Virtual reality is advancing quickly, but I wouldn’t say it’s mainstream yet. What are the biggest obstacles to mass adoption?

A huge part of it is technological, but I don’t think it’s technological in the sense of issues like simulator sickness. When you get above the level of mobile headsets, those things tend to fall away because you have better tracking. The technological hurdle to me is that we lack the ability to flip it off and go or take it out somewhere. The technological hurdle is the pain point of starting things up easily, the way people are comfortable with booting up a PC and with updating Windows and all these other things that have become part of the experience. We need devices that are lighter and cheaper, but ease of use is the biggest production problem.

One other problem is that stigma still exists. It’s kind of the glword not allowed thing revisited, which is the fear of looking crazy with a headset on and not knowing what’s happening outside the headset. Using this in public is a no-go. You do see it on planes, you don’t see it on subways, you don’t see it in coffee shops, despite what commercials will have you believe.

And the third thing is, what can I do to keep me coming back? That’s related to a network effect. Everyone who has gotten a mobile headset knows the experience of downloading all the free stuff they can and going into a virtual museum saying, sure, this is cool. Well, what those things are missing is having someone else in there. When you add this kind of network multiuser experience, it becomes something different. That’s what people are going back in for: social experiences, including ones that aren’t necessarily online games.

I think one of the biggest problems the industry has right now is that VR is thought of purely as a gaming technology, or people see Ready Player One and write it off. For VR to be adopted, it needs to be easy to use and easy to share, it needs to be something you don’t feel weird about using, and it needs to give you something that you really want to do and that thing is almost necessarily going to have other people involved.

The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) today unveiled a powerful, new earth system model that uses the world’s fastest computers so that scientists can better understand how earth system processes interact today and how they may evolve in the future

 

Scientists are trying a new, interactive way to understand ocean current data with the help of high-resolution global ocean simulations. In the part of the global visualization shown, the Loop Current, the origin of the Gulf Stream, features prominently. Surface water speeds are shown ranging from 0 meters per second (dark blue) to 1.25 meters per second (cyan). The video is running at one simulation day per second.

A team from the NASA Advanced Supercomputing (NAS) facility, at Ames Research Center in Silicon Valley, has developed a new visualization tool that is being used by researchers from the Estimating the Circulation and Climate of the Ocean (ECCO) project to study the behavior of ocean currents.

The new visualization tool provides high-resolution views of the entire globe at once, allowing the scientists to see new details that they had missed in previous analyses of their simulation, which was run on NASA’s Pleiades supercomputer.

The visualization is shown on a 10 by 23-foot, 128-screen hyperwall at the NAS facility. By switching the hyperwall view from one global image to displays of single regions, properties such as temperature, surface wind stress, density, and salinity can be clearly identified with high-contrast colors that can be changed instantly.

Pleiades and the high-capacity network bandwidth and data processing capabilities of the hyperwall is one of the most powerful visualization systems in the world, and ECCO scientists use it to discover new ocean features and their effect on the larger ocean system.

The visualization project is a collaboration between NASA’s Ames Research Center in Silicon Valley, NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Boston.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PiCPbrXmis

 

 

 

I think you're completely in the wrong place. This is a forum about FLIGHT simulator, nothing more...

[Rudiii 257]

It's a flight simulator.

It's technology isn't going to revolutionise the world, unfortunately.

It's hard enough to get our local authority in one of the richest countries in the world to even fill pot holes, nevermind join in on mapping a flight simulator.  

[HighBypass 2,339]

On 5/23/2020 at 2:09 PM, wainwj said:

It's hard enough to get our local authority in one of the richest countries in the world to even fill pot holes...

The UK has that problem too.. 😜

[Shack95 2,678]

1 hour ago, HighBypass said:

The UK has that problem too.. 😜

https://www.google.ch/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-tees-48068866 

At least you have creative solutions up your sleeves😂

Edited May 26, 2020 by Shack95

[Jazz 1,047]

4 minutes ago, Shack95 said:

https://www.google.ch/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-tees-48068866 

At least you have creative solutions up your sleeves😂

A simple and brilliant solution, for sure, but It's a damned embarrasment that we must resort to such tactics to get our apathetic and unfit for purpose authorities to do the work we pay them to do.

[jpc55 185]

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