Hi,

I am not trying to frame anyone. But on this one i am going to need community support regarding a CTD caused by GSX & Only when GSX is used. My sim works absolutely ok when ran without running GSX service.

Why i don't take it to FSDT forum? I already did but turns out Umberto as some says is not acting nice & is declining to provide support for a product i paid. Also he is insisting that i am the only one complaining this issue which i believe is not true.

Yes he suggested doing vanilla test & i am declining to do that. Because my logic is the sim the works flawless with all addons installed & without running GSX. Why will it only crash when running GSX service.

Requesting community for kind support. Please help me. I wouldn't ask if it was a freeware.

Head over to the battlefield here: http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,23686.45.html

Edited June 26, 20205 yr by RVxSpeed

You're running the ActiveSky beta? Test without that. It does pretty consistent CTDs for me.

Cheers!

Luke

Your logic is flawed. Start with the basic tests and proceed from there or you'll just be shooting in the dark. Just because it runs fine w/o GSX does NOT mean that GSX is the problem. If that were the case then we all would have the same problem. There is SOMETHING in YOUR configuration that is reacting badly with GSX. The only way to efficiently determine that is to follow Umberto's guidelines and take it step by step.

 

Vic

The last video he posted, clearly shows the problem.

What is crashing in his latest video, it's the nVidia video driver, because he's trying to use P3D V5 on an 8GB card with basically every graphic slider to the right, and before the crash the sim used 6.2 out of 6.9 GB of VRAM. As explained several times, even by LM people, it's not just how much free VRAM you have, fragmentation might be an issue.

Of course, the one and only thing in GSX that could possibly crash the video driver ( it never did in P3D4 ), which is Render to Texture, is totally disabled in the P3D V5 version of the Addon Manager, it's a separate .dll that just doesn't do any DirectX 12 call, the code it's just not there so no, it's just a normal VRAM exhaustion crash caused by insanely high settings. I won't even dream of setting my sliders that high, even if I have a 11GB card.

Edited June 26, 20205 yr by virtuali

9 minutes ago, virtuali said:

The last video he posted, clearly shows the problem.

What is crashing in his latest video, it's the nVidia video driver, because he's trying to use P3D V5 on an 8GB card with basically every graphic slider to the right, and before the crash the sim used 6.2 out of 6.9 GB of VRAM. As explained several times, even by LM people, it's not just how much free VRAM you have, fragmentation might be an issue.

Of course, the one and only thing in GSX that could possibly crash the video driver ( it never did in P3D4 ), which is Render to Texture, is totally disabled in the P3D V5 version of the Addon Manager, it's a separate .dll that just doesn't do any DirectX 12 call, the code it's just not there so no, it's just a normal VRAM exhaustion crash caused by insanely high settings. I won't even dream of setting my sliders that high, even if I have a 11GB card.

Ok i will use FS2Crew Ground Crew X until you fix your broken product. Even if it's a crash due to VRAM exhaustion. GSX is to blame.

& many thanks to everyone for not supporting me whereas i have clearly made a point. If Umberto were confident enough to prove his product is flawless he should have posted some sort of testing video like i did where his product will not cause the simulator to crash instead of arguing 4 pages of no progression. Buying an FSDT product is the biggest mistake i made in my entire life on the contary of digital purchase. Boycotting FSDT for lifetime. Yes i maybe the only one. It doesn't matter if i stay or leave. Because he doesn't care.

6 minutes ago, RVxSpeed said:

Ok i will use FS2Crew Ground Crew X until you fix your broken product. Even if it's a crash due to VRAM exhaustion. GSX is to blame.
 

With your insanely high settings, everything that can add something graphic will likely crash sooner or later.

Look, you already been proven wrong on our forum several times ( and of course, nobody else reported the same crash ), so you are now coming here asking for "help", and your fellow users said basically the same things I said to you:

- Your logic is flawed

- You are using Beta products which are know to cause issues

- You are using almost every slider to the right with an 8GB card

Without even mentioning, you bought GSX in 2015. So you KNOW, for the past years, that GSX CANNOT CRASH THE SIM.

Yet, you are somehow convinced you can run P3D V5 with all sliders to the right with an 8GB card with no problems, even when your VRAM usage is already at 90%.

Edited June 26, 20205 yr by virtuali

2 minutes ago, RVxSpeed said:

Ok i will use FS2Crew Ground Crew X until you fix your broken product. Even if it's a crash due to VRAM exhaustion. GSX is to blame.

& many thanks to everyone for not supporting me whereas i have clearly made a point. If Umberto were confident enough to prove his product is flawless he should have posted some sort of testing video like i did where his product will not cause the simulator to crash instead of arguing 4 pages of no progression. Buying an FSDT product is the biggest mistake i made in my entire life on the contary of digital purchase. Boycotting FSDT for lifetime. Yes i maybe the only one. It doesn't matter if i stay or leave. Because he doesn't care.

Your not out of the woods i would avoid any future highly detailed airports for P3dV5, as you may end up with same problem the use of VRAM in DX12 has been well documented on the LM forum, and any future sim going down the same road will be the same. 

1 hour ago, RVxSpeed said:

Yes he suggested doing vanilla test & i am declining to do that. Because my logic is the sim the works flawless with all addons installed & without running GSX. Why will it only crash when running GSX service.

GSX can be the one thing pushing your hardware over its limits, but that is not a fault of GSX itself.

What i have seen in your video: there is this green icon in your task bar blinking, not sure but i think its Kaspersky Antivirus? Did you have set exclusions for the folders of your sim and of the addons? I would also try once to deactivate it for a session, just to be sure.

1 minute ago, JoeFackel said:

GSX can be the one thing pushing your hardware over its limits, but that is not a fault of GSX itself.

What i have seen in your video: there is this green icon in your task bar blinking, not sure but i think its Kaspersky Antivirus? Did you have set exclusions for the folders of your sim and of the addons? I would also try once to deactivate it for a session, just to be sure.

Finally some good soul on a constructive discussion. If GSX is pushing my hardware to it's limit. Shouldn't GSX be optimized not to do that. Since no other addons that is installed is causing a crash.

Thanks for pointing out. I didn't think of that. Will try.

37 minutes ago, RVxSpeed said:

If Umberto were confident enough to prove his product is flawless he should have posted some sort of testing video like i did where his product will not cause the simulator to crash

Obviously, since everybody uses GSX with P3D V5 with no issue, I assumed the lack of other reports would have been enough to prove GSX works perfectly fine with it.

Problem is, you made absurd demands, like me having to download a certain airport on Simmarket, use Active Sky BETA and the PMDG 747, to "prove" GSX works.

As I've said on our forum, I'm momentarily without the ability to use the PMDG 747-400, because I've just reinstalled Windows a few days ago, and realized I used by activations, so I'm waiting for PMDG to reply. I will NOT buy a 3rd party airport I'm not interested in it, just to make a video like you asked.

So, for the time being, you must make do with this one, it shows GSX with P3D V5, at FSDT KORD V2 with the Qualitywings 787. I hope they are both highly detailed products for you, so you cannot say GSX doesn't work with add-ons...

 

GSX perfectly working with P3D V5, at FSDT Chicago O'Hare V2, with the Qualitywings 787
 

 

 

Edited June 26, 20205 yr by virtuali

4 minutes ago, RVxSpeed said:

Finally some good soul on a constructive discussion. If GSX is pushing my hardware to it's limit. Shouldn't GSX be optimized not to do that. Since no other addons that is installed is causing a crash.
 

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. Do you expect GSX would create VRAM out of thin air if you already close to exhaust it ?

And please, stop repeating "no other addons that is installed is causing a crash", because everybody already told you it's absurd. If you install P3D V5 and just GSX, and it won't crash, then you install the PMDG, end your VRAM, get a crash, would you say it's "PMDG's fault" or that is not "optimized" ? The thing that is installed last is always wrong, in your view ?

By your flawed logic, the solution should be easy, next time you install the sim, start with GSX, so you might get a chance to verify it works before you consume your entire memory when adding stuff.

Edited June 26, 20205 yr by virtuali

27 minutes ago, virtuali said:

With your insanely high settings, everything that can add something graphic will likely crash sooner or later.

Look, you already been proven wrong on our forum several times ( and of course, nobody else reported the same crash ), so you are now coming here asking for "help", and your fellow users said basically the same things I said to you:

- Your logic is flawed

- You are using Beta products which are know to cause issues

- You are using almost every slider to the right with an 8GB card

Without even mentioning, you bought GSX in 2015. So you KNOW, for the past years, that GSX CANNOT CRASH THE SIM.

Yet, you are somehow convinced you can run P3D V5 with all sliders to the right with an 8GB card with no problems, even when your VRAM usage is already at 90%.

Your product worked flawlessly since 2015 doesn't mean it will work flawless forever. Back then we didn't even have this VRAM issue nor we had DX 12. Now things have changed. You need to update your product in acoording to the feedback of the community.

Actually your statement of flawless is also not true.You push update (i am not saying is a bad thing) very often which sometime if user doesn't run the live updater. Causes the sim not to load the intial screen.

I don't know you personally & i clearly said my intention is not to harm you or your product. There are people says that you never listen to any user that complaint about problem & i have prove of that. I don't want to bring it here because like i said my intention is not to get a war with you. I just want my simulator not to crash when using GSX service.

6 minutes ago, RVxSpeed said:

Your product worked flawlessly since 2015 doesn't mean it will work flawless forever. Back then we didn't even have this VRAM issue nor we had DX 12. Now things have changed. You need to update your product in acoording to the feedback of the community

You can't be more wrong than this.  And no, the "community" is not sharing any of your views. Quite the opposite, in fact.

EVERYTHING you install takes away SOME VRAM. Your settings take some VRAM, and yours are insanely high for your hardware, and this is common knowledge. That's why your logic that we should "optimize" GSX, as if was "wasting" memory, is completely wrong.

Start with optimize your settings, instead, since nobody can run P3D V5 with 8GB with everything to the right.

And BTW, I posted the video you asked, clearly proving GSX WORK FLAWLESSLY IN P3D V5, with a detailed airport on an detailed 3rd party airplane so no, it's not as if it only runs "vanilla", if you were trying to imply that.

 

Edited June 26, 20205 yr by virtuali

8 minutes ago, virtuali said:

Obviously, since everybody uses GSX with P3D V5 with no issue, I assumed the lack of other reports would have been enough to prove GSX works perfectly fine with it.

Problem is, you made absurd demands, like me having to download a certain airport on Simmarket, use Active Sky BETA and the PMDG 747, to "prove" GSX works.

As I've said on our forum, I'm momentarily without the ability to use the PMDG 747-400, because I've just reinstalled Windows a few days ago, and realized I used by activations, so I'm waiting for PMDG to reply. I will NOT buy a 3rd party airport I'm not interested in it, just to make a video like you asked.

So, for the time being, you must make do with this one, it shows GSX with P3D V5, at FSDT KORD V2 with the Qualitywings 787. I hope they are both highly detailed products for you, so you cannot say GSX doesn't work with add-ons...
 

 

 

Thanks for the video. Your video shows that it reaches 6.5/10GB mine got crash at 6.2/7.0GB. So, there is something really wrong with GSX & VRAM.

Just now, RVxSpeed said:

Thanks for the video. Your video shows that it reaches 6.5/10GB mine got crash at 6.2/7.0GB. So, there is something really wrong with GSX & VRAM.

Really??

You need to stop with the assumption that GSX absolutely must be the problem.