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Trick of the eye. Extreme depth of field in the camera lens. I bet he had it zoomed to the max, therefore he lost about half a dozen f-stops in the process.

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just reading some airliners.net posts. I wonder if they also write the news! someone claimed the lower plane was a 737! another said it might be an air hong kong a300!! lol! dont tell them dhl or any of its subsidiaries own 737s nor does air hong kong operate the old dhl colors.didnt the bbc report first claim the japan air was an a330?

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slight correction, dhl does operate a 737 but only in asia and around australia.

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The DHL plane is an A300, whilst the JAL plane is a 777-300ER :). The photo is deceptive, due to the camera lens and relative sizes of the aircraft:)

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the point that it is crap is the fact that DHL banks to the left to "avoid the collision" or turn on course.TCAS NEVER deals in left/right it ALWAYS tells you to either climb or descend.this is simply the stupid press creating a story.

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>Well they would hardly admit it anyway, would they?>>Dave T. .........On the Devon Riviera and active 'FlightSim>User's Group' member at>http://www.flightsimgrpuk.free-online.co.uk/You'd be surprised, we know about pretty much everything listed as an "airmiss" here in UK as there's always a fuss over it. This was simply made too much of by too many people, especially the media sensationalising as usual. Heck even my mom thinks 1000' is too close for aircraft. Whereas I'm of the opinion that 500' as is being proposed is plenty.

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I heard reports that the planes were two and a half miles apart, which seems ridiculous to me. The relative sizes of those two planes are quite accurate in those photographs, which would suggest that the separation distance was a LOT less than that.

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a friend of mine was involved in a Southwest almost fatal accident which required an emergency landing because of almost total hydralic failure at an unknown military facility in the California or Nevada desert, and yet nothing ever was publicised about that.

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>a friend of mine was involved in a Southwest almost fatal>accident which required an emergency landing because of almost>total hydralic failure at an unknown military facility in the>California or Nevada desert, and yet nothing ever was>publicised about that.i take it you also believe that airliners release chemicals into the air to poison the population in a giant government mind control experiemnt....http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm

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give me a break mr strawman. either add to the discussion or sit in the corner

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>give me a break mr strawman. either add to the discussion or>sit in the corneri did add to it. i told you it is simply media hype through an optical illusion.i even told you why re: TCAS and collision avoidance.i know its hard, but these pesky FACTS just keep getting in the way.

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what pesky facts? you insult my example and then claim that since I believe in "media hype" even though the media was not involved (because I was responding to the comment about not hearing every single near miss)give it up, go take a chill pill and find someone else to bash to keep your ego at FL900

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>what pesky facts? you insult my example and then claim that>since I believe in "media hype" even though the media was not>involved (because I was responding to the comment about not>hearing every single near miss)>>give it up, go take a chill pill and find someone else to bash>to keep your ego at FL900TCAS would tell you what to do in a "near miss" scenario. it does NOT tell you to turn left as the pictures show. it would tell you to climb or descend. those are the facts.in your example if they landed at an "unknown" military field in calif/nev, wouldn't it be known then?

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are you reading the words that I write or are you just in auto-respond mode? please point out one part of my posts which show me claiming this is a true and valid event that the news reported?Good luck... so immature

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Whilst I am well aware that those two planes are not as close as the photographs suggest, I still think that the widely reported "two and a half miles" doesn't make sense. Like I have already said, the 777 should appear to be smaller than the A300 if it was that distance further away from the observer.Maybe this is a case of the papers reporting rubbish when they stated something to the effect of "people on the ground looked up in astonishment", because for those two planes to be two and a half miles apart AND STILL APPEAR TO BE THE CORRECT RELATIVE SIZES would mean that BOTH planes were a considerable distance away (too far for people on the ground to have given a toss).Chris Low.

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>what pesky facts? you insult my example and then claim that>since I believe in "media hype" even though the media was not>involved (because I was responding to the comment about not>hearing every single near miss)>>give it up, go take a chill pill and find someone else to bash>to keep your ego at FL900I meant here in UK we hear about it. Hard not to when you're as densely packed as UK is. I didn't mean EVERY Airmiss per se, but every one here in our airspace. They do get seriously hyped up by the British Media, as if they were near fatal collisions when in fact the planes could be maybe 500 feet apart vertically or within a mile or so horizontal. Don't forget that would still be an airmiss even though the planes are going in the same direction. True that any collision here would be more than catastrophic, but it's chances of actually happening are pretty slender at best.

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