On 12/13/2020 at 7:24 AM, Raven Flight said:

There are YouTube performance reviews that indicates MSFS rarely exceeds 16 GB RAM but those are from dedicated computers just running the SIM and they aren't actually scientific studies due to inherent variables.  The last one I saw a couple of days ago slightly favored 32 GB.  It was interesting that when set up with 16 GB the RAM ran about 5 degrees hotter which indicates to me that the RAM was drawing more power which kept the FPS almost identical.  I highly suspect that  you couldn't tell the difference if you weren't watching the FPS counter.   The largest gap was flying an airliner over a city at night.   Other games may vary as would streaming while flying or doing any other tasks simultaneously.  

The cost of an extra set of RAM to increase to 32 is negligible so there not little reason not to go that high.  I've just concentrated on SIM reviews though.   As to editing.  I think it depends on what level we are talking about.  For large batch file professional editing there is no upper limits on resources you can use.  On the other hand I regularly follow a pilot who was making a month long motorcycle cross country trek this Summer.  He was filming from his phone and a drone and editing and posting from the phone when they were in cell range.  His whole TV rig fit into a small lunchbox size case.  You might want to search "How much RAM do I need?" on YouTube.  Lots of posts on the subject.  

MSFS still benefits more from single thread clock speed than cores and threads.  As a result most people still favor Intel.  Try looking at the i9-10850K.  It's 100 htz slower than the 900 which is basically within the margin of error and costs $100 less.  Good luck on finding a 5900X and a RTX 3080.  There are lots of i9 CPUs available.  

  

Thanks.

The problem is: no videocards available at all. Another simmer complained that I will get almost the same performance (which in a simple way means "number of fps") with RTX 2070 or with RTX 3090... Videocards like 2080, 2080Ti and 3080 are sold off... So, if we compare the price of 2070 (or 2070Ti) and 3090 with their performance, I don't know what to choose right now. 

On 12/13/2020 at 1:22 PM, ha5mvo said:

The “best” to date would probably be a 6800xt with 16G vram. Those are virtually impossible to find.

You might stumble upon a 3080. With its 10G vram it might become a bit tight in the future. 
Both cards would probably be quite above the recommended price given the supply/demand situation.

going for the top tier 6900xt or 3090 is bound costing you an arm and a leg.

Not available. Maximum is maybe 2070 or 3070, and then we go directly to 3090. All the others cannot be found in the next couple of months...

Edited December 16, 20205 yr by harpsi

I walked into a MicroCenter this morning and they had dozens of 3080's and plenty of 3090s.  I couldn't help myself and bought a 3090.  At MSRP it felt like a deal, although, yeah, it was quite expensive either way.  I guess I'll build a top of the line system around it, but I have no idea whether to go with a 10900k or a 5900x.

13 hours ago, TravelRunner404 said:

I walked into a MicroCenter this morning and they had dozens of 3080's and plenty of 3090s.  I couldn't help myself and bought a 3090.  At MSRP it felt like a deal, although, yeah, it was quite expensive either way.  I guess I'll build a top of the line system around it, but I have no idea whether to go with a 10900k or a 5900x.

 

I manage to get a 3090 too. UK supplier. 

I went for the 10900k. To be honest, 5900x didn't offer enough of an improvement for me to wait. And to be honest, Intel is familiar to me.

13 hours ago, TravelRunner404 said:

I walked into a MicroCenter this morning and they had dozens of 3080's and plenty of 3090s.

It looks like there is a huge bottleneck of freight trying to to access the UK before 31st December and probably that is where all the UK bound 3080s, 3090s and Radeon 6xxxs are, if indeed they exist at all. it is virtually impossible to buy a new graphics card of any type at all above word processing standard here. 

3 hours ago, Reader said:

 it is virtually impossible to buy a new graphics card of any type at all above word processing standard here. 

 

Almost, but not exactly Impossible. I picked up an EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 the other day from Scan. I guess they must have had quite a few, because the pre orders would have been priority. Clearly there were some over and I manged to nip in quick. Few hours later they were all gone and back to pre order. 

You will find Zotac 3090's around. Trouble is, they're the ones with the POSCAP issue, so probably why they aren't selling so quick. Gigabyte have a few cards around too, the blower version in particular. Not sure what the POSCAP  situation is with that version. 

I saw your posts. Have you actually got your hands on it?

https://tweakers.net/reviews/8356/4/microsoft-flight-simulator-op-reis-met-ryzen-5000-en-geforce-3000-cpu-benchmarks.html

German site but translates well.  Interesting results at 4k, shows about a 10% difference with the 5900x over the 10900k.  One problem is this was tested before the November update.

1 hour ago, Reader said:

I saw your posts. Have you actually got your hands on it?

 

Scan tells me via their usual emails that it's ordered, payment authorised and also "picked". Picked is the one I was waiting for. Picked, so they have it and are about to ship. "Shipped" I will be breathing a sigh of relief. Wont be till the 20th it arrives, as its always takes a few days to get the Guernsey. 

🙂 I not one of Scan's super fans but I've never had something not be in stock when they say it is. 

50 minutes ago, TravelRunner404 said:

https://tweakers.net/reviews/8356/4/microsoft-flight-simulator-op-reis-met-ryzen-5000-en-geforce-3000-cpu-benchmarks.html

German site but translates well.  Interesting results at 4k, shows about a 10% difference with the 5900x over the 10900k.  One problem is this was tested before the November update.

 

10% you say. Depends on the application I suppose. But what's 10% at the critical end? When I say critical end I mean when you really need it. So if you are hovering around 20 FPS, that's a mere 2 frames. If we are down to 20 FPS we should be looking at our settings with a view to dropping them in my view. b  🙂 10900K and a RTX 3090 is more power than I need by a very long way. 

And I don't know what it is, I know its not logical, but I just prefer Intel. That weird CPU temp and frequency spiking they do is weird. Built a rig for someone a while back and had to mess with the fan curve to prevent the fans from ramping up in bursts. Had to limit the fans to not ramp up till 50C. 

2 hours ago, TravelRunner404 said:

German site but translates well.  Interesting results at 4k, shows about a 10% difference with the 5900x over the 10900k.  One problem is this was tested before the November update.

I must be interpreting the "ultra" fps results in regards to the difference between the 5900x and the 10900k (38 fps vs 31.5 fps), but isn't that a 20% increase in favor of the 5900x? That seems a bit substantial to me. Might give hopes to the upcoming 11900K being even better than the 5900x.

That seems to be a lot greater than the fps I have seen from other sites.

He may have meant 5950X. In which case its 11%