It's a bad time to buy a new PC?

[ryanbatc 12,871]

I'm kinda out of the loop with PC parts been so busy with life.  I'm thinking of a Q1 2021 build but wow...there are no new GPU's or Ryzen CPU's to be found.  Is this due to production delays from Covid?  Or is this a crypto mining issue again?

I guess I could go with an i7 10700K as well.  But I'd be stuck with my GTX 1080 ti

Do we know when things will be back in stock?

What about 4k MSFS with a 3080?  Will it work?  What about VR?  Is the assumption that if you can run 4k you could also run VR?

[Bob Scott 7,722]

Production shortfalls due to supply constraints (broad-based shortages of Samsung silicon wafers, substrates, and other components) is what's been driving the shortage of 3000-series nVidia GPUs.  Their CFO recently predicted it would take at least several months still for supply to catch up with demand.

I wouldn't want to limit my future options by pulling the trigger on a new 10GB video card with DX12 on the horizon.  With DX12 at 4K res, 10GB of VRAM may well become a real showstopper.  If it were me already sitting on an 11GB 1080Ti, I'd wait and see how things evolve before I'd spring for a new card with even less VRAM.

 

[ryanbatc 12,871]

Ok thanks, my wife will like that haha!

Hope you and your family are well Bob!

[RobJC 2,069]

I have thought about building a new PC as well, but the availability of critical parts just isn't there. I am going to suffer through a few more months until we have the next great thing that causes the current scalpers to rotate into that. Then I will probably get a 3080 or 6800 XT. I can wait. 

[martin-w 3,240]

Its overwhelming demand yes, but there are other factors. Covid is having a big impact on companies. Critical electronic manufacturing hubs have been idle. So its a confluence of events, not anticipating big demand, wafer shortages and other component shortages due to covid etc.

Edited December 7, 2020 by martin-w

[martin-w 3,240]

3 hours ago, RobJC said:

I have thought about building a new PC as well, but the availability of critical parts just isn't there. 

 

Its mainly the latest AMD and Nvidia cards that are hard to get now. Personally, I had a few issues finding a 1000 watt PSU, and now of course an EVGA RTX 3090, but I had no issue securing other components. 10900K was easy, RAM was easy. Storage was easy. Motherboard was easy. 

Edited December 7, 2020 by martin-w

[VeryBumpy 272]

I have not seen or heard a single word or news blurb that any manufacturer is stepping up, increasing production or seeking other manufacturing sources.

These companies are easily meeting their board member's goals and fiscal needs thus they don't give a word not allowed about the current high consumer demand nor plan to do anything about it.

With the blatant lack of company agility, I predict this electronics shortage to last another 12 months before things become 'normal' again.

Edited December 7, 2020 by VeryBumpy
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[G-RFRY 1,712]

The fastest why to get the new tech GPU`s is to buy a new prebuilt PC, PC builders are keeping some stock of the new GPU`s for them selves to sell with complete builds you get bumped up the list for that.

[hs118 707]

1 hour ago, martin-w said:

 

Its mainly the latest AMD and Nvidia cards that are hard to get now. Personally, I had a few issues finding a 1000 watt PSU, and now of course an EVGA RTX 3090, but I had no issue securing other components. 10900K was easy, RAM was easy. Storage was easy. Motherboard was easy. 

This was my experience. I opted to shoulder on with my EVGA 1080 Hybrid for a while longer but built a whole new 5.1Ghz Intel computer around it.

[G-RFRY 1,712]

How much power do you need most go OTT.

(1) Wasting Money on Power Supplies: How Many Watts You Need for a PC PSU (2020) - YouTube

[CaptainNick 575]

Last week I took the plunge and bought a 55” 4K quantum tv to use as a monitor. It was an open box deal that was literally too good to not purchase vs a much smaller 4K monitor. I’ve been running MSFS in the high 30’s low 40’s with my current setup in my Sig. P3DV5 gets considerable more FPS with lots of orbx and add on planes, active sky yadda yadda yadda. Of course I’m running conservative ish settings...

I’m now in the market for a 5800x and a 3080 or a 3090 if the price is right....but looks like I will be waiting a while.

As for VR...with my 2070 Super, VR runs just fine on my Odyssey Plus. Obviously the graphics sliders are turned down for this.

Edited December 8, 2020 by CaptainNick

[ryanbatc 12,871]

Excellent thanks for the info gents!

Nick, is that VR in p3d or msfs?

[CaptainNick 575]

26 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

Excellent thanks for the info gents!

Nick, is that VR in p3d or msfs?

I can't comment on one of them at this time, nda etc but yes. 

[martin-w 3,240]

9 hours ago, G-RFRY said:

How much power do you need most go OTT.

(1) Wasting Money on Power Supplies: How Many Watts You Need for a PC PSU (2020) - YouTube

 

Indeed. Most do go OTT. That has always been my experience. I'm the guy that usually points that out to people.

However... with Nvidia now recommending a 750 watt PSU as absolute minimum for the 30 series cards, and some users with 850 watt having issues, and some users like me with a CPU with hefty power requirements, and regarding it as a good idea to hit the sweet spot in the PSU efficiency curve,  the time for a 1000 watt PSU is probably here. 🙂

And I can afford it. 😉

Edited December 8, 2020 by martin-w

[martin-w 3,240]

11 hours ago, VeryBumpy said:

I have not seen or heard a single word or news blurb that any manufacturer is stepping up, increasing production or seeking other manufacturing sources.

These companies are easily meeting their board member's goals and fiscal needs thus they don't give a word not allowed about the current high consumer demand nor plan to do anything about it.

With the blatant lack of company agility, I predict this electronics shortage to last another 12 months before things become 'normal' again.

 

Nvidia on GeForce RTX 30 Shortages: We Don't Get Enough Chips

Nvidia does not deny that it cannot supply enough of its latest add-in-boards (AIB) because of overwhelming demand and because it cannot get enough wafers with chips from its partner Samsung Foundry. The company admits that there are constraints beyond chip supply, so the issue with shortages is indeed very complicated.  

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-shortages