Things could get worse in the future for AMD and Nvidia. But good for Intel as they are already gaining back market share due to the unavailability of AMD products. APPLE is King in the future deeper pockets. 

Apple claims half of TSMC 5nm production capacity for 2021 (guru3d.com)

Edited February 9, 20215 yr by G-RFRY

Heard this morning that a shipping container full of PC parts that would normally be $2000, is now $10,000. 😲

No wonder prices for ALL PC components are skyrocketing. 

Mining $2000 is peanuts now, now big in China as well so some parts never leave the Fareast.  

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Graphics Cards Gets Listed For Double the MSRP (guru3d.com)

Dig deep for your GPU`s in future. And for 6 GPU`s this.

EVGA's 6-GPU PSU For Mining Will Fuel Your Hate for Crypto | Tom's Hardware

Edited February 12, 20215 yr by G-RFRY

20 hours ago, G-RFRY said:

Mining $2000 is peanuts now, now big in China as well so some parts never leave the Fareast.  

There's a pessimistic view of the future.  Sadly, I expect you are 100% correct.  All I can say is, "so long, flight sims, you were fun when I could build a computer to run you."

It was bound to happen w/ exploding population and demand for consumer entertainment.  It's really hard to fathom but one lousy long human lifespan ago global population was around 1.8B.  It's now pushing 8B, and in just 100y.  It's the first time in my life something like a blithering video card is in far higher demand than supply can meet, and I think its a harbinger.

And I read RTX3080 Ti might be limited to 12Gb of VRAM.  That would be a nice improvement for me, but far less than hoped for.  If I could find a 3090 at a reasonable price I'd probably do it.

On 2/11/2021 at 5:47 PM, G-RFRY said:

Mining $2000 is peanuts now, now big in China as well so some parts never leave the Fareast.  

 

You might be misunderstanding. That was the shipping container itself that cost £2000. The same container, container only, now costs £10,000. It demonstrated how significantly costs have risen to ship electronic  components. 

10 hours ago, Noel said:

It was bound to happen w/ exploding population and demand for consumer entertainment.  It's really hard to fathom but one lousy long human lifespan ago global population was around 1.8B.  It's now pushing 8B, and in just 100y.  It's the first time in my life something like a blithering video card is in far higher demand than supply can meet, and I think its a harbinger.

And I read RTX3080 Ti might be limited to 12Gb of VRAM.  That would be a nice improvement for me, but far less than hoped for.  If I could find a 3090 at a reasonable price I'd probably do it.

 

I think I manged to get my 3090 at the right time. Thought it was pricey at the time, but now they're way more expensive. Thought I was extravagant but turns out I was actually lucky. 

29 minutes ago, martin-w said:

 

You might be misunderstanding. That was the shipping container itself that cost £2000. The same container, container only, now costs £10,000. It demonstrated how significantly costs have risen to ship electronic  components. 

Why has shipping cost increased by 500%?  I have to wonder due to the relative abruptness of this that the tariff war is involved.

Edited February 14, 20215 yr by Noel

1 hour ago, martin-w said:

 

I think I manged to get my 3090 at the right time. Thought it was pricey at the time, but now they're way more expensive. Thought I was extravagant but turns out I was actually lucky. 

It was definitely pricey at that time, and far worse now!  I'll be curious to see if and when you actually NEED 24Gb of VRAM for any flight sim currently in existance, and for the next couple of years too!  W/ MSFS it is probably possible to force this by putting the render scaler up to 200% but what you get for that would be difficult to justify, i.e. the change in image quality.

1 hour ago, Noel said:

Why has shipping cost increased by 500%?  I have to wonder due to the relative abruptness of this that the tariff war is involved.

 

Covid apparently. And BREXIT for us as well. 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-04/u-k-freight-shipping-costs-quadruple-after-brexit-and-covid-19

https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/covid-19-drives-up-ship-operating-costs/

1 hour ago, Noel said:

if and when you actually NEED 24Gb of VRAM for any flight sim currently in existance, and for the next couple of years too!  

 

I don't at all and I'm not simming at the moment. I bought it because, rarely, I can afford the best at the moment. 

That was a rhetorical Martin, I was saying fhan ANYONE, not you in particular.  I read 3080Ti might get only 12Gb of VRAM which is borderline it seems, though I get by so well w/ 8Gb it might be good enough.  I have no idea what to expect from DX-12 in terms of demand on VRAM but I understand it's significant, just no idea by how much.  If I could buy a 3090 for it's actual retail price today I would consider it just to not have to think about GPUs for the next 5+y, even if the top half of that VRAM may hardly ever see an electron.  The sad part was I had the the FE version in the cart for $1499!  After several minutes of no action I made the fatal mistake of refreshing the screen after which it became sold out.  Almost!

On 2/12/2021 at 5:57 AM, stans said:

There's a pessimistic view of the future.  Sadly, I expect you are 100% correct.  All I can say is, "so long, flight sims, you were fun when I could build a computer to run you."

Yep! the fun part is wearing off..fast

On 2/14/2021 at 10:52 PM, Noel said:

 The sad part was I had the the FE version in the cart for $1499!  After several minutes of no action I made the fatal mistake of refreshing the screen after which it became sold out.  Almost!

 

God that's frustrating.

 

I've noticed its gone even more bonkers with PSU's now. they have 1200 watt Corsair and EVGA PSU's on Amazon UK, for, wait for it.....         £1200.

About three times the normal price. Utter insanity.