9 hours ago, Republic3D said:

This bug is happening to a lot of different planes now. It's weird:
 

 

It's not happening when AP is on. I hand fly the plane when it occurs and i am not inputting the commands. I checked sensitivities etc.

I noticed that now below 10000ft there is an aural warning if you are above 250kts.

Is there any way to silence the warning or disable the limitation?

I usually ask for a high speed approach from ATC and there is always the warning now...

How to select the cross pointers flight director?

>> Added Cross Pointers (X-PTR) flight director and setting persistence on restart

1 minute ago, ega said:

How to select the cross pointers flight director?

>> Added Cross Pointers (X-PTR) flight director and setting persistence on restart

 

 

14 hours ago, Flyfaster_MTN002 said:

Can you provide some context and the actual VNAV you were on? Have not seen either issue...

Had the same thing happen to me. Went back to Default MSFS Livery and problem when away

Regards

Thanks highflyer2020!

@MattNischan:

I'd like to point out some issues with the CJ4 that seem to have their origin in the stock aircraft and can affect IFR flying. I post them here as a sort of wishlist for upcoming releases of your outstanding mod, as I don't think my zendesk reports will yield results anytime soon.

DME only stations
The avioncs in the CJ4 does not display distance information from stations that are DME only (mostly decommissioned former VORDMEs). The stock C172 with the G1000 unit displays identifier and distance, so the information is in the database. This affects instrument approaches where the ILS is not colocated with the DME beacon, e.g. EDDH (115.80ALF) or EGNC (110.70CO).

NDB with 0,5khz frequency
The avionics in the CJ4 does not display bearing information from NDBs that have a 0,5khz decimal frequency, e.g. Southend 363SND near London. The frequency is 362.5 khz, although the charts show 363. In real life, the ADF would tune to the station if you'd put in 363 (possibly even 362), but MSFS does not reflect that behaviour. And as you can not tune decimals for the ADF in the CJ4, NDB navigation (e.g. for the missed approach to rwy15 in LOWS) is hit and miss.

TACAN and DME reading
Afaik, the DME signal of TACAN stations can be received by civilian DME receivers when tuned to the respective frequency while in the CJ4 no DME signal is displayed (nor bearing indication, which is correct).

Maybe you can find ways around these issues and thus make the CJ4 even more true to life.

 

Edit: I updated my github issue accordingly and saw that the DME only issue was reported over there by another user as well

Edited January 10, 20215 yr by Tom_L

One thing I noticed Direct to works if you copy and paste from the legs page to the active waypoint but if you select direct to from the FMS and select a first approach fix while you are on a star arrival it will not accept it.

41 minutes ago, Tom_L said:

Maybe you can find ways around these issues and thus make the CJ4 even more true to life.

After trying your cases, I do see a bug where we improperly think a VOR is not tuned if the sim doesn't report to us that it has a radial signal. Fixing this will fix the DME only and TACAN station problem (confirmed with ALF DME and TGO VORTAC). As far as the NDB goes, according to the sim database, the frequency for SND is 362. We can't control the radio tuning behavior itself, as we just tell the sim the frequency that is tuned and the sim returns to us the radio data. There's no way to change the sim's tuning behavior to be more lax from aircraft code itself.

If you find there's a NDB that you feel should tune but doesn't, you can go to IDX p.2 -> DATABASE to look up the station and see what frequency the sim thinks the NDB is at.

-Matt

39 minutes ago, MattNischan said:

and TGO VORTAC

You might want to try with a "pure" TACAN (there's a bunch of them west of Venice in northern Italy, like ISTRANA (111.70 ISA) or AVIANO (116.40 AVI), as VORTAC have a VOR portion and thus the radial information is receivable by civilian aircraft.

39 minutes ago, MattNischan said:

the frequency for SND is 362

Here's something odd: the database on IDX pg.2 in your FMS indeed shows 362.0 khz as the frequency for SND. However, neither 362 nor 363 leads to an indication when tuned to ADF1 and BRG SRC set to ADF1. And on the world page the information for SND shows 362.5 khz as the frequency (as does my Navigraph chart when looking up the details for SND - on the chart it says 363). This is true for the stock and the Navigraph database. The G1000 of the stock C172 has the ability to tune decimals and indicates when tuned to 362.5 khz.

I am not a programmer, but maybe there's a way to "cheat" in a way to tell the sim to display any indication in a range +/- 0,5 khz of any given frequency? Anyway, many thanks for your efforts.

Edited January 10, 20215 yr by Tom_L

51 minutes ago, Tom_L said:

You might want to try with a "pure" TACAN (there's a bunch of them west of Venice in northern Italy, like ISTRANA (111.70 ISA) or AVIANO (116.40 AVI), as VORTAC have a VOR portion and thus the radial information is receivable by civilian aircraft.

ISA confirmed works with this fix also. TGO is also a DME only station in the sim.

51 minutes ago, Tom_L said:

Here's something odd: the database on IDX pg.2 in your FMS indeed shows 362.0 khz as the frequency for SND.

I just doublechecked, and all NDBs only return whole number frequencies from the aircraft sim navdata loader. So definitely a bug in the sim there if what we get back from the sim when we ask does not match the actual underlying data.

51 minutes ago, Tom_L said:

I am not a programmer, but maybe there's a way to "cheat" in a way to tell the sim to display any indication in a range +/- 0,5 khz of any given frequency?

There is not, no. Literally all we can do is tell the sim the frequency we have tuned. It's up to the sim then to decide what happens after that and populate or not populate the radio simulation variables with the data aircraft code can read for display and navigation. That being said, I do see in the FMS guide that fractional ADF tuning (up to 1 decimal) should be on the TUN page, so I will add it. I have confirmed that does allow SND to be tuned.

-Matt

Edited January 10, 20215 yr by MattNischan

13 minutes ago, MattNischan said:

So definitely a bug in the sim

Zendesked! And it wouldn't hurt if anyone reading this also files a report over at the MSFS support site along the lines "CJ4 and other aircraft with ADF receivers with 1.0 khz frequency spacing don't display data from NDBs having a 0.5 decimal frequency like e.g. 363 SND Southend near London, which has a frequency of 362.5 khz according to the data displayed on the world map"

Edited January 10, 20215 yr by Tom_L

35 minutes ago, MattNischan said:

I do see in the FMS guide that fractional ADF tuning (up to 1 decimal) should be on the TUN page, so I will add it. I have confirmed that does allow SND to be tuned.

Uuuh, I kind of stopped reading after "There is not, no" 😌. That's great news, however ASOBO should fix the underlying issue as neither charts (at least at first glance, as in Navigraph charts there's always the possibility to invoke the details for each element) nor the FMS database will tell the exact frequency. Not a very big issue, but kind of nagging....

2 hours ago, Denwagg said:

One thing I noticed Direct to works if you copy and paste from the legs page to the active waypoint but if you select direct to from the FMS and select a first approach fix while you are on a star arrival it will not accept it.

I haven't been able to reproduce this yet, but do you mind throwing an issue on our GitHub so it doesn't get lost? I think I saw one other person in our Discord mention it (maybe it was yourself, even). Definitely will want to track that down.

-Matt

On 1/8/2021 at 11:27 PM, JughedJones said:

This has been a consequence of having using a livery that has a .panel file.     theres a whole list of 'authorized' liveries on WTs discord. 

I only have the original file and no extra liveries but the problem remains!

Edited January 10, 20215 yr by imb12