1 hour ago, fppilot said:

Laying this heavily at the feet of Honeycomb is to me akin to someone badgering a company like RXP about gauge implementation into an aircraft panel when it would require modification by RXP of the aircraft model developer's code.  I have seen that happen multiple time

To be clear, I lay this at the feet of all involved. However, I spent the most money on the Honeycomb products which claim to be fully functional with MSFS and simply aren't. 

I just went through this with TP-Link and one of their newest, top-of-the-line routers that claims to work wonders with FiOS only to find it runs like word not allowed on FiOS. I worked directly with their engineers to show the issues to them and they were perplexed. Five other routers worked just fine. Running direct to my PC worked just fine. Adding the TP-Link router into the setup created all sorts of issues. They're a good company. They spent MONTHS working with me (I owned a major QA shop so I tend to end up helping a lot of companies with bugs) on beta drivers to get it right. All along they kept blaming Verizon for differences in FiOS. I get it, but they're the ones that marketed it as a great solution for FiOS customers. Blaming Verizon only goes so far. In the end someone needs to take responsibility to do something about it. I just know that if I did all the work Honeycomb did to make such amazing products, and they were wonky with the top product on the market, I'd be pretty vocal about it.

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A couple of long time aftermarket developers here, of products other than flight controls, have clearly stated that a 10° HDG and CRS  issue has been around since FS9 and required their workarounds. 

20 hours ago, Stona said:

What workarounds are you using

I had to look back to see why you quoted the message you quoted.  In a post somewhat previous to the one you posted I mentioned that some developers had to create workarounds.  Those within their products. 

My rather easy process in MSFS is in the aircraft that are affected (not all are in my experience) I use the mouse wheel to tune 10° increments, and individual clicks with the respective L and R mouse buttons to tune in 1° increments.

Edited January 9, 20215 yr by fppilot

Can’t agree, more with all the arguments of support.

I plugged in my Alpha and Bravo and went straight into MSFS, It was fantastic, working straight off the bat, I’m simply someone who enjoys touring the world in my GA aircraft, and don’t read much into the 1 degree, 10 degrees, I just love the enjoyment of escaping reality and being in the world of Simulation.

What does pee me off is the lack of support for P3dv5, by Honeycomb. Over the years, my investment into P3d, have been enormous, the amount of scenery and aircraft I have purchased, borders on ridiculous, can I get my Honeycombs to work straight of the bat in P3d, NO!!!!, and my age and health defies me the ability to watch all these great people producing videos of support, they just go straight over my head.

Without support, I’m truly going to have to part ways with P3d, simply because, this wonderful Yoke and Throttle have me sold, I love them, but if HoneyComb, won’t or can’t support this fantastic Flight Simulation as well as MSFS, then they don’t leave some of us older generation with much choice.

HoneyComb, Ultra Fantastic yoke and throttle, please support all versions your hardware works in.

Rant Rant.

 

Kind Regards 

Brian (BJ from Oz)

5 hours ago, baxterbj said:

Without support, I’m truly going to have to part ways with P3d

Two things, Brian. First, I don't know what aircrafy you are using but I loaded the Honeycomb driver program and the default aircraft I tried worked without any tinkering. I am talking about the Bravo quadrant here. I don't know if this holds for all aircraft but it worked for the Cessna 172 at least, lights and all. And second, it's worth noting that you can use the Alpha yoke and the Bravo quad without any Honeycomb software and get almost all the functionality. You will lose lights for the Bravo but you can program all the inputs just like any other yoke or quadrant. I agree that the Honeycomb programming interface is for advanced users.

23 minutes ago, MarkDH said:

Two things, Brian. First, I don't know what aircrafy you are using but I loaded the Honeycomb driver program and the default aircraft I tried worked without any tinkering. I am talking about the Bravo quadrant here. I don't know if this holds for all aircraft but it worked for the Cessna 172 at least, lights and all. And second, it's worth noting that you can use the Alpha yoke and the Bravo quad without any Honeycomb software and get almost all the functionality. You will lose lights for the Bravo but you can program all the inputs just like any other yoke or quadrant. I agree that the Honeycomb programming interface is for advanced users.

First I've even heard of a "Honeycomb driver program". Where is this? There's nothing in the box that I see. 

12 minutes ago, Agrajag said:

First I've even heard of a "Honeycomb driver program". Where is this? There's nothing in the box that I see. 

Look again, there should be a user manual in the box, which on page 10 invites you to visit  https://flyhoneycomb.com/pages/drivers.

10 minutes ago, MarkDH said:

Look again, there should be a user manual in the box, which on page 10 invites you to visit  https://flyhoneycomb.com/pages/drivers.

Thanks. Useful.

Thanks MarkDH, I’ll try without the P3dv5 configuration tool from HoneyComb and just try throughout P3dv5.

Ill look for any manuals as it only had small booklets?

 

Kind Regards 

Brian(BJ from Oz)

3 hours ago, baxterbj said:

Ill look for any manuals as it only had small booklets?

Yes, the "user manual" is indeed a small booklet and not worth bothering with.