February 26, 20215 yr This is my results shown in another thread, but I wanted to share them here so you can see the potential going to V5. Again V5 has some lighting and weather issues(Storms), but I'm sure they are working on that currently. Please note I was using higher settings on V5 which is why you actually see lower FPS in the same area, but I assure you there is a noticeable gain going to V5, and as you can see from my results once you go to a more powerful video card you will be rewarded massively in V5. Prepar3d V4SEATAC w/ mostly high settings and ORBX PNW and DD SeattleRTX2080 34FPSRTX3090 36FPSDT SeattleRTX2080 40FPSRTX3090 45FPSPrepar3d V5SEATAC w/ mostly higher settings and ORBX True EarthRTX2080 31FPSRTX3090 50FPSDT Seattle RTX2080 35FPSRTX3090 55FPS Here it really shows the work LM have done with off loading much of the work to the GPU. V5 w/True earth is really stunning and the smoothness is something to be seen. Edited February 26, 20215 yr by TurboKen Flight Simulator's - Prepar3d V5/MSFS | Operating System - WIN 11 | Main Board - GIGABYTE X870E Aorus Elite WIFI7 | CPU - AMD 9800X3D | RAM - CORSAIR 64GB 6600Mhz | Video Card - EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra | Monitor - DELL 38" Ultrawide | Case - CORSAIR 750D Full Tower | CPU Cooling - CORSAIR H170i Elite LCD 420mm Push/Pull | Power Supply - EVGA 1000 G+ | Sound System - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 600 w/subwoofer
February 26, 20215 yr Author Moderator @TurboKen, I agree they’re very impressive numbers. There’s just one tiny problem. I’d have a greater chance of buying a flux capacitor than a series 20 or 30 graphics card. I’m amazed you’re not running in 4K with a 3090. My humble 1080Ti will have to make do for the foreseeable future. Your signature shows you still have v4.5. Any reason why? Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
February 27, 20215 yr The framerates with an RTX 2080 are actually lower in P3Dv5 than P3Dv4 when using high density scenery? Does this mean that any graphics cards less powerful than this would also result in lower framerates in P3Dv5? Edited February 27, 20215 yr by Christopher Low Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
February 27, 20215 yr The good thing about LM is that you can take advantage of their 14-day refund policy. You can buy P3Dv5, install it to have it side by side with P3Dv4 and compare both with regard to their performance. (And if you use the XML method for add-on sceneries, it is quite easy to run them on both sims). If you like the sim, you can keep it, if not, remove it and apply for a refund...
February 27, 20215 yr Author Moderator I've seen enough reports indicating there is a significant performance boost in v5. DX12 processes graphics more efficiently resulting in around 20% so for 50GBP it seems a logical choice. Yes, add-on scenery is easy to import but I still have a lot of scenery.cfg stuff but I'm well versed in that. Just a case of deciding when. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
February 27, 20215 yr 6 hours ago, Christopher Low said: The framerates with an RTX 2080 are actually lower in P3Dv5 than P3Dv4 when using high density scenery? Does this mean that any graphics cards less powerful than this would also result in lower framerates in P3Dv5? Not necessarily, it could be quite settings dependent as v4 settings are not equivalent to v5 settings Kevin Firth - AMD 9800X3D; Asus Prime X670E; 64Gb Cas30 6000 DDR5; RTX5090; AutoFPS
February 27, 20215 yr 41 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: I've seen enough reports indicating there is a significant performance boost in v5. DX12 processes graphics more efficiently resulting in around 20% so for 50GBP it seems a logical choice. Yes, add-on scenery is easy to import but I still have a lot of scenery.cfg stuff but I'm well versed in that. Just a case of deciding when. Yes, v5 gives a good performance boost with a fast graphics card as with DX12 there is a little less load on the cpu and more on the gpu. In my case : V4 / AG both Dense / LOD High / only clouds + terrain shadows / 25 hertz V5 / AG both Very Dense / LOD Max + HR text / clouds + terrain + buildings shadows / 30 hertz 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
February 27, 20215 yr Author Moderator 3 minutes ago, GSalden said: Yes, v5 gives a good performance boost with a fast graphics card as with DX12 there is a little less load on the cpu and more on the gpu. I suppose it all boils down to whether the 1080Ti is still considered a “fast graphics card”. 🤔 After all, it only cost around 750GBP 2.5 years ago. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
February 27, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said: I suppose it all boils down to whether the 1080Ti is still considered a “fast graphics card”. 🤔 After all, it only cost around 750GBP 2.5 years ago. That is absolutely correct. About 2,5 ya I bought 2 1080Ti cards, 1,5 ya I was able to sell them well and bought 2 2080Ti cards. One new and one second handed. Half a year ago I sold the 2080Ti cards, bought a new 3090 and 2 months later a second handed one. Two months ago I bough 2 1Tb M2 SSD’d extra as the others ( 2 2Tb SSD ) where filled up to 85%. 🥳 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
February 27, 20215 yr 28 minutes ago, GSalden said: That is absolutely correct. About 2,5 ya I bought 2 1080Ti cards, 1,5 ya I was able to sell them well and bought 2 2080Ti cards. One new and one second handed. Half a year ago I sold the 2080Ti cards, bought a new 3090 and 2 months later a second handed one. Two months ago I bough 2 1Tb M2 SSD’d extra as the others ( 2 2Tb SSD ) where filled up to 85%. 🥳 Good Lord! No wonder we can't buy a 3090 GSalden bought them all up! Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
February 27, 20215 yr Author Moderator @GSalden, a man who lives on the cutting edge of technology. I wish I’d gone for a 3090 when they were available although I have read that some have expired which is concerning. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
February 27, 20215 yr FYI : at one time I 3 3090s... 🤠 Inno3D X3 for my left view client Inno3D X4 for my server And I was able to purchase a AORUS Xtreme. The idea was to put that one in my server and return the X4. However, when I tried the AORUS it was broke and they did not have another one. However, I am fully satisfied with both current cards... 😁 regards, Gerard 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
February 28, 20215 yr On 2/27/2021 at 6:54 AM, Christopher Low said: The framerates with an RTX 2080 are actually lower in P3Dv5 than P3Dv4 when using high density scenery? Does this mean that any graphics cards less powerful than this would also result in lower framerates in P3Dv5? TurboKen mentioned he was using higher settings in P3D v5 and TrueEarth vs non-TE. So it's not a like-for-like comparison. I think the point was that he can manage near enough the same FPS with higher settings and more complex scenery in v5. Which tracks with my experience. I've not found v5 to be slower than v4 in any respect, short of having literally all sliders right including EA (which v4 of course never had). Which is not to say that I get huge FPS with all sliders right in highly complex scenery with complex add-ons; I don't. But I get better FPS than I would in v4 in the same scenario. And with careful trimming of the settings I have got good visuals and very flyable FPS in London and other high-demand areas which I just could not do in v4.5. Temporary sim: 9700K @ 5GHz, 2TB NVMe SSD, RTX 3080Ti, MSFS + SPAD.NeXT
March 1, 20215 yr On 2/25/2021 at 4:38 AM, Ray Proudfoot said: So other than eating more VRAM what makes DX12 so much better than DX11? The response from ASOBO was once it moved to DX12 it will give them the ability to add more eye candy. LOL more you say.... Flight Simulator's - Prepar3d V5/MSFS | Operating System - WIN 11 | Main Board - GIGABYTE X870E Aorus Elite WIFI7 | CPU - AMD 9800X3D | RAM - CORSAIR 64GB 6600Mhz | Video Card - EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra | Monitor - DELL 38" Ultrawide | Case - CORSAIR 750D Full Tower | CPU Cooling - CORSAIR H170i Elite LCD 420mm Push/Pull | Power Supply - EVGA 1000 G+ | Sound System - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 600 w/subwoofer
March 1, 20215 yr On 2/26/2021 at 10:54 PM, Christopher Low said: The framerates with an RTX 2080 are actually lower in P3Dv5 than P3Dv4 when using high density scenery? Sorry that's not true. I did mention above the results shown that I was using a higher scenery and draw distance settings then I was on V4. However that was simply to show the power of V5, I should have spent more time making the settings closer to equal. Unfortunately I sold my RTX2080 so I cannot perform anymore side by side testing. But there was probably 15% or better improvement between the two. With more Vram even more gains then that. Flight Simulator's - Prepar3d V5/MSFS | Operating System - WIN 11 | Main Board - GIGABYTE X870E Aorus Elite WIFI7 | CPU - AMD 9800X3D | RAM - CORSAIR 64GB 6600Mhz | Video Card - EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra | Monitor - DELL 38" Ultrawide | Case - CORSAIR 750D Full Tower | CPU Cooling - CORSAIR H170i Elite LCD 420mm Push/Pull | Power Supply - EVGA 1000 G+ | Sound System - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 600 w/subwoofer
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