July 13, 20214 yr Mate you will barely notice the difference. save your money. mike Edited July 13, 20214 yr by mikeymike
July 13, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, mikeymike said: Mate you will barely notice the difference. save your money. mike What makes you say this? Best regards, Dimitrios 9950X3D - 64 GB - RX 7900 XTX - TrackIR - Power-LC M39 WQHD - Honeycomb Alpha yoke, Saitek pedals & throttles in a crummy home-cockpit - MSFS for props, P3D for jets
July 13, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, mikeymike said: Mate you will barely notice the difference. save your money. mike Did you go from a 9900k to 11700k? 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
July 13, 20214 yr 33 minutes ago, micstatic said: Did you go from a 9900k to 11700k? no i will stay with my 19 9900k for at least another 2 years , i update every 4 to 5 years. but i go high end when i do, i dont understand the mentality of upgrading every year for a 5% gain. cheers mike
July 13, 20214 yr Check this comparison out. Looks like maybe 10-12% performance increase for 5-7% price increase? Am I reading this correctly? Still a lot of time involved swapping out hardware and re-installing Windows even if you don't have to buy a new motherboard. CPU Benchmarks and Hierarchy 2021: Intel and AMD Processor Rankings and Comparisons | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com) Edited July 13, 20214 yr by yurei My MSFS 2020 repaints: Flightsim.to - Profile of HStreet Working on MSFS 2024 versions.
July 13, 20214 yr I'm actually interested in this question as I was considering replacing my motherboard anyway. I'm coming from 8600k, so I'm hoping that the 11700k will give me quite a jump. What's got me a little bit worried however are the temps with the 11700k. Any thoughts? Benjamin van Soldt Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case
July 14, 20214 yr Yeah I don't like the temps on the 11700k either. I'm probably going to hold on my 9700k then jump when they do the shrink and alder lake series. Hopefully early next year I'll be rebuilding. But there have been some people who went from 9700k/9900k who upgraded to the 11700k and reported good gains. Who knows. 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
July 14, 20214 yr Incremental gains on single-threaded loads for new generations of Intel (or AMD) CPUs are always going to be small, though. A few % at most. Eking out more efficiencies, and better pipelining / branch prediction. The only thing that really gives significant performance increases on single-threaded loads is clock speed, and on current technology we're never going to hit 7GHz+ which is what you'd need to really start seeing major performance improvements like in the days of Moore's Law, although better overclockability helps of course (if we can run a newer CPU at, say, 5.5GHz reliably, that's a definite improvement on 5GHz). Multi-threaded performance, adding more cores etc is where it's at these days. In a flight sim context, gains with new CPUs tend to come from the OS and other tasks on that PC running faster, and having less contention for the core that the main sim thread is running on, because there are more cores overall. I definitely saw a performance uplift going from 4 cores to 8. Personally, I replace my sim machines when they wear out these days. I'm still running an 8th gen and a 9th gen and I don't intend to rebuild them anytime soon. My desktop is a 7th gen, though, and given Win11 probably won't support it I'm planning to replace the motherboard and CPU for something a little newer. Maybe even dabble with AMD. Temporary sim: 9700K @ 5GHz, 2TB NVMe SSD, RTX 3080Ti, MSFS + SPAD.NeXT
July 14, 20214 yr I have a 9900k, and am looking to replace it. Think of them what you like, but benchmark charts show significant gains for 11th gen Intel CPUs over the 9900K: 15 - 20 % for single thread, 30+ % for overall performance for the 11900K, and the 11700K isn't far behind. Is it worth the money and the trouble? That depends on who you ask (although I think a Windows re-installation is not necessary). Best regards, Dimitrios 9950X3D - 64 GB - RX 7900 XTX - TrackIR - Power-LC M39 WQHD - Honeycomb Alpha yoke, Saitek pedals & throttles in a crummy home-cockpit - MSFS for props, P3D for jets
July 14, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, d.tsakiris said: I have a 9900k, and am looking to replace it. Think of them what you like, but benchmark charts show significant gains for 11th gen Intel CPUs over the 9900K: 15 - 20 % for single thread, 30+ % for overall performance for the 11900K, and the 11700K isn't far behind. Is it worth the money and the trouble? That depends on who you ask (although I think a Windows re-installation is not necessary). I will admit that the early data looks promising. If Intel has managed to achieve a double-digit uplift in single-threaded performance, it will be impressive. I might look to upgrade my image generator PC early if that's the case. Temporary sim: 9700K @ 5GHz, 2TB NVMe SSD, RTX 3080Ti, MSFS + SPAD.NeXT
July 14, 20214 yr I have an i7 11700k after upgrading from an i7 7700k. If overclocked correctly then temperatures aren't actually as bad a people make out, granted it still is a hot chip, but the same can be said about AMD's 5000 series. I'm using a Corsair H100i Capellix AIO. I peak at around 50 degrees C under load when running P3D etc! My overclock peak is 4.9 but is set to different clock speeds depending on CPU usage. When running P3D it's at 4.7, and having tried higher clock speeds I haven't noticed much difference with performance going any higher. I set it to 5.2 and gained 4-6 fps, with temps peaking around 75. I feel like I don't really need to push it this high as average FPS is way above 30 even at 4.7 (using FSL/PMDG and heavy scenery etc). So from a 7700 to 11700 I noticed a huge difference, couldn't really comment on 9900 to 11700 though. Edited July 14, 20214 yr by Avionixz CPU: i7 11700K @ 5.0 Ghz | GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 4080 Super 16GB | Mobo: ASUS ROG Strix Z590-F | RAM: 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 3600MHz | Harddrive: 3x Samsung 1Tb 970 Evo Plus M.2 SSD | Peripherals: TrackIR 5, Fulcrum One Yoke, Winwing URSA Minor, Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, Turtle Beach VelocityOne Rudder Pedals
July 14, 20214 yr 15 hours ago, d.tsakiris said: I have a 9900k, and am looking to replace it. Think of them what you like, but benchmark charts show significant gains for 11th gen Intel CPUs over the 9900K: 15 - 20 % for single thread, 30+ % for overall performance for the 11900K, and the 11700K isn't far behind. Is it worth the money and the trouble? That depends on who you ask (although I think a Windows re-installation is not necessary). If you are talking mainly FS2020 performance gains, I'd wait until the Jul 27 sim update where this level of CPU performance improvement and possibly more, is anticipated. If it pans out, you may not need to upgrade anything. 9800X3D | 4090 | 64GB | 2+1TB NVME | 2TB SSD | 2TB HDD | 85/50/43” TVs | Quest 3 | DOF H3 Motion Rig | Buttkicker | T.16000M Flight Kit MSFS @ 4K Ultra DLSS Performance FG 80 FPS | VR VDXR Godlike 80Hz SSW | MSFS VR DLSS Quality, Ultra Preset - Windows 11 Acer Nitro 5 | i5-11400H | RTX 3060 6 GB | 32GB DDR4 | 15.6" FHD IPS 144Hz | 2 x 512 GB SSD | Windows 11
July 15, 20214 yr No, I don't have MSFS. Best regards, Dimitrios 9950X3D - 64 GB - RX 7900 XTX - TrackIR - Power-LC M39 WQHD - Honeycomb Alpha yoke, Saitek pedals & throttles in a crummy home-cockpit - MSFS for props, P3D for jets
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