2 hours ago, jarmstro said:

But what is the purpose of these waypoints? I just dont understand? One TIMECLI  waypoint I had was 54 miles from the airport?

I believe these may be used by the "skip to" feature -- I'm probably not remembering the real name, but I mean the feature that allows you to skip forward to significant points in your flight, including the top of climb and top of descent. I believe MSFS uses these pseudo-waypoints internally so that it knows where to place you when you skip to these points in the flight.

Edit: Of course, there's no reason these "internal pseudo-waypoints" should appear in GPSs and the like; I guess Asobo just doesn't have a way of marking them as "internal".

Edited August 23, 20214 yr by martinboehme

2 hours ago, orchestra_nl said:

The problem might be limited to the GNS 530/430.

The WT G1000 nxi does not show this behavior, so my hope is, that as WT is able to introduce their flight plan management into the core of the sim, this will all disappear.   Why it is there at all, I have no idea..

Edit: Just read the previous post.. "internal waypoints".. that would make sense.. along with the famous "USER" waypoint 😉

Edited August 23, 20214 yr by Bert Pieke

I read somewhere that these waypoints don't get generated if you choose IFR instead of VFR in the msfs flight planning menu. You can then always cancel the IFR flight plan later via the ATC menu. 

Haven't tried it myself because I just add the dep and arrival airports manually in the GNS530. 

Just to give you guys an update, we are pretty sure it's a bug and not intended behavior. And yes, it was introduced in SU5. Please do vote on the issue here:

 

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/vfr-flight-plan-bug-su5/427720/68

38 minutes ago, Violins77 said:

Just to give you guys an update, we are pretty sure it's a bug and not intended behavior. And yes, it was introduced in SU5. Please do vote on the issue here:

 

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/vfr-flight-plan-bug-su5/427720/68

Voted.

5 hours ago, saifs said:

I read somewhere that these waypoints don't get generated if you choose IFR instead of VFR in the msfs flight planning menu. You can then always cancel the IFR flight plan later via the ATC menu. 

Haven't tried it myself because I just add the dep and arrival airports manually in the GNS530. 

That is true.  I can confirm it. 

5 hours ago, Violins77 said:

Just to give you guys an update, we are pretty sure it's a bug and not intended behavior. And yes, it was introduced in SU5. Please do vote on the issue here:

 

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/vfr-flight-plan-bug-su5/427720/68

I wonder. It seems to me more deliberate in that TIMEDEC lines you up squarely on approach which makes life easy for those with a poor draw distance or lack of skill? But half the challenge and enjoyment of the flight is ltherefore lost.

10 hours ago, jarmstro said:

I wonder. It seems to me more deliberate in that TIMEDEC lines you up squarely on approach which makes life easy for those with a poor draw distance or lack of skill? But half the challenge and enjoyment of the flight is ltherefore lost.

If this is indeed intended behaviour, then we should see these waypoints appear in the GPS and we should be able to remove them. What is weird is that they cannot be removed and the autopilot insists on following them, even if they don't even show on the GPS map. It's more likely to confuse anyone than do any good.