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Kodiak Spiral roll to crash.... but only sometimes

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So after flying maybe 20 flights with the Kodiak 70%-80% of the time I have no issues. BUT maybe 20%-30% of the time its tough to control on TO and then when I engage the AP it spirals to the ground. The CG is within range so it does not seem to be that. It seems to generally occur when I fly in FSEconomy (Although some of the FSEconomy flights have been fine)

What am I missing?

Thanks,

Dave

I heard you need a lot of right rudder either via physical pedal input and or right rudder trim.

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Just now, ryanbatcund said:

I heard you need a lot of right rudder either via physical pedal input and or right rudder trim.

Thanks; but as I said, I have flown this quite a bit today, have a feel for it but 20% of the time it just becomes uncontrolable and triggered by engaging the AP. 

2 hours ago, lehbird said:

BUT maybe 20%-30% of the time its tough to control on TO and then when I engage the AP it spirals to the ground.

If it is tough to control on takeoff, engaging the AP is not the right thing to do.

First trim the aircraft, then engage AP..

Bert

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There are two problems I see:

1) Make sure the plane is trimmed and stable, hands-free before turning on the AP. If not, the AP will try to trim the plane but may not catch up if the engine throws it off too fast.

2) MSFS uses a different trim for the autopilot -which is wrong. You may have trimmed the aircraft for climb, engage AP, cruise, turn it off and then it is suddenly out of trim because it jumps back to the climb trim you had set before. That's a core sim bug and I think it persists to date.

7 hours ago, lehbird said:

The CG is within range so it does not seem to be that. It seems to generally occur when I fly in FSEconomy

 

Check the CG after you hit start flight in FSEconomy. FSE will change the payload and fuel to match the one of the FSE world but depending of the aircraft config it might result in all the fuel in one tank only or a payload that modify the CG. I don't have the Kodiak, so can't tell for sure but it happens to me more than once with various add ons on FSE.

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2 hours ago, Bushido5 said:

Check the CG after you hit start flight in FSEconomy. FSE will change the payload and fuel to match the one of the FSE world but depending of the aircraft config it might result in all the fuel in one tank only or a payload that modify the CG. I don't have the Kodiak, so can't tell for sure but it happens to me more than once with various add ons on FSE.

Thanks. I don't think it is playing nice with FSE right now.  Not sure FSE is loading any payload when you start, plus I have been having an issue where my "flight is cancelled" at the end of the flight because "I didn't burn any fuel".

So there is a configuration issue between the FSE model and the model within MSFS, the fuel tank configuration is likely different. You have to make a request on the FSE forum so that they change the config or make a specific MSFS version of the Kodiac.

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