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eyepoint/seat height/raise or lower horizon

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In FSX we had a keyboard command ctrl+Q or Q that artificially raised or lowered the horizon line relative to the pilots view over the cockpit panel.  Is there a setting in the cameras.cfg (or available directly from keyboard) that replicates this in MSF2020 ?  I took the standard default 172 and tried just modifying the eyepoint setting, but that doesn't give the same visual that moving the horizon line in FSX did.   On the keyboard keypad, pressing 2 or 8 raises or lowers the horizon line nicely for the drone view.   That's the horizon control i'm looking for but in the cockpit view.

Jim

 

 

Have you tried the spacebar?

I think up and down arrows do it for me.

Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind).

I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio.

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The spacebar does help a little, but it doesn't give anywhere near the actual control that we had with the Ctrl+Q or Q.  The closest thing we currently have is the drone pitch control mentioned at the beginning.  That's what I'm looking for but in the cockpit view.

14 minutes ago, anitelite said:

The spacebar does help a little, but it doesn't give anywhere near the actual control that we had with the Ctrl+Q or Q.  The closest thing we currently have is the drone pitch control mentioned at the beginning.  That's what I'm looking for but in the cockpit view.

Have you tried the up and down arrow keys?  You can actually move sideways as well.  There are also two keys for move forwards and backwards in the seat.

Edit:  I just found this for using the arrow keys...

  • Decrease Cockpit View Height - DOWN
  • Increase Cockpit View Height - UP
  • Translate Cockpit View Backward - RIGHT ALT + DOWN 
  • Translate Cockpit View Forward - RIGHT ALT + UP
  • Translate Cockpit View Left - LEFT
  • Translate Cockpit View Right - RIGHT

Edit 2:

Here is a full list...

https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/microsoft-flight-simulator-2020-keyboard-controls/

 

Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind).

I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio.

Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's.  Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.

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Thanks for the suggestions Bobcat, but the only control that so far helps in any way, is the spacebar command.  That does actually raise and lower the horizon line slightly

6 minutes ago, anitelite said:

Thanks for the suggestions Bobcat, but the only control that so far helps in any way, is the spacebar command.  That does actually raise and lower the horizon line slightly

No problem. 

Strange.  The keyboard controls above should work perfectly for everyone unless they have been over-written.  They work perfectly for me. 

The first thing I do in any aircraft is raise my seat a little, then save it to control-alt-2.  I can bring the eye position back at any time then by pressing alt-2.  I reserve alt-1 for the default position.

Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind).

I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio.

Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's.  Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.

I have made many camera views and have mapped these to the numberpad...I guess similar to Xplane. So I can fly with one hand and change views with the other resting on the keypad. The hat switch and the right-click mouse also work but my custom views are quick and easy. This is simple to set up after you do the first one. The up and down arrow keys help with the head position, but can get confusing when trying to keep the horizon level and the plane flying level. Say you are landing and then press spacebar or the arrow keys...it can throw off your height perception...which is already difficult enough in a sim.

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Thanks Mike. 

I just watched a short video on this custom view thing and that may very well be what I end up doing.  There just doesn't seem to be an easy way to pitch the horizon up or down like there was in fsx.  Thanks for the suggestion.

Jim

 

 

 

 

 

 

29 minutes ago, anitelite said:


Thanks Mike. 

I just watched a short video on this custom view thing and that may very well be what I end up doing.  There just doesn't seem to be an easy way to pitch the horizon up or down like there was in fsx.  Thanks for the suggestion.

Jim

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's not hard to learn, and the result is an enjoyable easy way to view all around the pit jumping from one set of instruments to the next. works a treat in the kodiak. Specialized views from start up to shut down. hardest part is getting the view just the way you want it, but it can be done.

Best thing to do is make a keyboard profile for your specific plane. I've got one for the Kodiak and the Twotter. 

*one more edit, while your in the controls editor you might jot down the keys for translating the cockpit camera around. in order to help get the camera just where you want it.

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