MSFS: BAE 146-100 into KPHL, Rwy 27L

[Treetops45 1,082]

A first attempt at an ILS landing with the new JF 146.

Bit of a mess, I may not have everything set correctly. Only picked up the glideslope about a mile out & I had hand flown it to there because the AP wasn't locking on for the 'S' approach.

But it did ILS the last bit quite nicely while I juggled the throttles, airbrakes & flaps.

Wanted to land next to the runway though.

Learning experience - get the speed down a long way out and stick to straight in approaches.😀

T45

 

 

 

 

[anden145 2,285]

Nice! Although slightly left of the center-line. 🙂

Edited May 1, 2022 by anden145

[ryanbatc 12,859]

Nice - what's your take on the product?  Worth the price?  What sort of avionics does it have?

[johnbow72 2,722]

Any landing you can walk away from ....... 😊😊

[Victoroos 205]

Is it normal in teh BAE to leave the speedbrake out during final app?

But word not allowed nice shots!

[Torsen 495]

8 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

Nice - what's your take on the product?  Worth the price?  What sort of avionics does it have?

I was on the same questions as in the first place I wanted to get the maddog. But the high price of the maddog for a visually not on msfs standards product (not talking about the functionality but without getting the visuals and the model ramped up I can continue to fly exactly the same dog in p3d and not spending 90 eur here including vat. Plus some design decisions to use old external load manager for parts and you even have to download simbrief flps and not able to just use them in the efb directly... some small things nagging...) drove me away from that idea. I have flown the BAe both in p3d and XP and although its high fidelity for sure its not going into the highest league. At the moment its coming with the working title fmc known from the cj4 adapted to the quirks of the BAe. Its a pilots plane. The thrust modulation system will support you in the phases of flight to manage the engines but its no autothrottle. You can wonderfully fly old style VOR/NDB for what it was build for. Historically the first BAe came only with this style of navigation and were later equipped with several nav solutions. JustFlight (as shown in dev shots) is still working on the UNS fms and will provide it later. Even GTN750 support is planned as some real world firefighting BAe are using it. Its a clockwork shop and I like it... Not everyones taste but me like it for sure. It is sounds and lighting wise nicer than the esp versions though its not upscaled and you can even with some work use old paints from the esp platforms. As you get all -100 to -300 plus mil variant and the Quite Traders the price is def ok imho. EFB with direct simbrief integrations, map, aircraft config, doors etc included. Weather radar waiting for asobo as usual. JF did two smaller updates already and smoothing things out. Some users reported oscillations on lnav with the wt fms, I had them on one flight too. Other flights were fine. Trim a bit too sensitive atm but worked on.

Cheers

T.

Edited May 2, 2022 by Torsen

[Torsen 495]

3 hours ago, Victoroos said:

Is it normal in teh BAE to leave the speedbrake out during final app?

But word not allowed nice shots!

Yes indeed, the speedbrake can be deployed at any time and usually used at about 500ft on approach. But depends on company procedures.

Cheers T.

[Victoroos 205]

2 hours ago, Torsen said:

Yes indeed, the speedbrake can be deployed at any time and usually used at about 500ft on approach. But depends on company procedures.

Cheers T.

Cool!

[pmplayer 9,484]

Nice shots !

LOC and GS works perfect for me, other than that you have a Airportproblem or something with your NAV Data is goeing on/wrong.

And to say : Worth every penny this Addon - IMO ! Best Produkt Addon so far i bought since beginning with MSFS 2020 !!

 

cheers 😉

[GACSavannah 227]

8 hours ago, Victoroos said:

Is it normal in teh BAE to leave the speedbrake out during final app?

But word not allowed nice shots!

Yes. Primary reason is go-around performance. Those little Lycoming engines (modified version of the engine used in a Bradley Tank/Fighting Vehicle) do not spool up very fast nor do they have an abundance of power. Opening the speed brake, and compensating for the drag with extra thrust allows better go around performance because you can pretty much instantly remove the drag and you already have the engines spooled up, so you get much faster performance response.

 

Those engines were not very reliable. We used to joke that Bae stood for "Bring Another Engine" 🙂

[Victoroos 205]

23 hours ago, GACSavannah said:

Yes. Primary reason is go-around performance. Those little Lycoming engines (modified version of the engine used in a Bradley Tank/Fighting Vehicle) do not spool up very fast nor do they have an abundance of power. Opening the speed brake, and compensating for the drag with extra thrust allows better go around performance because you can pretty much instantly remove the drag and you already have the engines spooled up, so you get much faster performance response.

 

Those engines were not very reliable. We used to joke that Bae stood for "Bring Another Engine" 🙂

hahaha, that is why they need four? Those poor hair dryers.

Thanks for the explanation! 🙂