Hi,

I have the base Captain Sim 737-300 and it has a different autopilot panel to the one in the manual. it looks more complex.

I can't find any instructions on it's use and CS don't reply.  

Any help would be appreciated.

 

John

 

 

IRL it works real close to 737NG, and that one should have plenty of manual around

However CS made it based on their 757 system, so there are few bugs here and there works as what 757/767 is rather than 737 is, so..... go figure...

I have only used Mike Ray's 737 Classic book as a manual and would recommend that. I never even downloaded the CS manual. [Heh, as you'll see below, there's a reason for that!] I'm no rivet-counter, but it seems to work well enough to me and is basic Boeing of that era. CS manuals are usually way over-complete, filled with stuff that is not modelled, and I can't say whether they included a tutorial or not. (Wouldn't be surprised if the answer was no.) Ray's book is not cheap ($54 on Amazon) but is nicely spiral bound, entertaining, well-illustrated and sticks to the more important aspects. Whatever complexities you're encountering, Captain Ray will cover them, so CS must have gotten pretty close on their 737. On a more general note, anything with an FMC is pretty intimidating if you're not familiar with it, but once you learn one, you've learned all of them in principle. (I'm assuming that's what you're finding complex, because the rest is pretty straight forward knob twiddling for lateral and vertical control.) I remember struggling to master the FMC until it clicked. 

EDIT: I saw this on the CS boards, which is too bad. It's ridiculous not to include a tutorial at a minimum. I know CS has described themselves as a "two guys and a truck" operation, but sadly, I think they've been down to one guy and a Vespa for a long time.

The RW Boeing 737 manuals are available online and in retail.
We do not include any flight ops related manuals into our products anymore.

The 757 is, as mentioned, very similar, so you might take a look at the sticky on the FSX VERSION of the 757 section of their boards for orientation on the basics.  I see I even made some contributions there back in the day. The 737 has more features through the FMC, but those have more to do with panel states and the like. If anyone finds a CS 737 Classic tutorial floating around, please let us know. Otherwise, I might have to tackle it myself.  More than happy to help out in the meantime @Jonmal if you want to PM me.

Edited August 14, 20223 yr by Tim_Capps

5 hours ago, Tim_Capps said:

EDIT: I saw this on the CS boards, which is too bad. It's ridiculous not to include a tutorial at a minimum. I know CS has described themselves as a "two guys and a truck" operation, but sadly, I think they've been down to one guy and a Vespa for a long time.

The RW Boeing 737 manuals are available online and in retail.
We do not include any flight ops related manuals into our products anymore.

I think you're right. It would certainly explain why their development slowed to a crawl a few years ago, why we haven't seen a high quality VC from them for a while, etc. I heard they lost their systems programmers and a lot of the people that do the VC work.

That would go a long way towards explaining the low effort releases. Wouldn't be surprised if the 737CL was in the works for years then they just pushed it out to market as soon as they decided to pivot to MSFS. Their MSFS products are an embarrassment... ported models with no flight dynamics, no VC. I'm a begrudging consumer of the 737CL and the 75/76 in P3D. I'm never giving them a cent again at this point.

Thanks to all. Glad I got it in the sale for £10!!

I'll try to find the 757 manual and maybe come back for the kind help offered.

John