XP12 is downloading !  At last !

I've been all of the posts at the AVSIM forums, about XP12, XP12 vs MFS, MFS vs XP12, ...

Being away from the home PC is at the same time good to avoid he stress if installing and testing a "new" simulator, and stressing when I keep reading all sorts of messages and trying to make my mid about X-Plane 12.

I confess I never ost hope in LR, starting with Austin, a person I have to have in very high / good consideration becuase as much as he sometimes can look a bit full of himself, that characteristic is probably what brought us X-Plane, after he started it as a personal Project and decided to make it publicly available.

As I write this message at the loal coffee shop ( 🤪, no, not like the ones in Holand !!! ), XP12 is downloading in the home PC.

It was not an easy buy. The purchase refused my Credit Card twice ?  Was this a sign fr

om the Universe that I should keep loyal to MFS only ? I had just pushed the latest update of MFS before I tried purcasing XP12 for the first time 🙂

Well, time will tell what XP12, and MFS, will be in my simmer life, but I sincerely believe they're, for the very 1st time, start a cycle of joy & investment in two concurrent platforms at the very same time !!! And latter today I'll push the latest IL-2 Great Battles update - Normandy - released this week !

I know the three sims have a "place in my simmer hard", and I am grateful to their dev teams for all of the excellent simulation moments they have been providing me, each on it's own.

My plans for XP12, after initial install & confguration, will be to try out the updated version of the Toliss A319, the default aircraft and try the only two payware helicopters I had for XP11 - UH-1H and Bell 412 which I am not sure if are already compatible ?

Then I will try to push a modified AS K21 glider from the .Org and make some tests with the new thermals and the flight model. Some basic maneuvers like forward slips, stalls, lazy eights... will keep me occupied.

I look fwd for testing the new Real World Injected Global Weather !  

I am sure I will Praise XP12 as much as I do MFS and IL-2.

👍

Cheers 🍺!!!!

and Uninstalling ..............

But why not trying the free demo first than risking asking a refund later? 🙂

8 minutes ago, Murmur said:

But why not trying the free demo first than risking asking a refund later? 🙂

Ah ! Because I am sure I will never feel the need to ask for refund Marco 🙂

X-Plane 12 is something I have een waiting for quite a while and sure about being a GREAT flight simulator !

2 hours ago, jcomm said:

XP12 is downloading !  At last !

I've been all of the posts at the AVSIM forums, about XP12, XP12 vs MFS, MFS vs XP12, ...

Being away from the home PC is at the same time good to avoid he stress if installing and testing a "new" simulator, and stressing when I keep reading all sorts of messages and trying to make my mid about X-Plane 12.

I confess I never ost hope in LR, starting with Austin, a person I have to have in very high / good consideration becuase as much as he sometimes can look a bit full of himself, that characteristic is probably what brought us X-Plane, after he started it as a personal Project and decided to make it publicly available.

As I write this message at the loal coffee shop ( 🤪, no, not like the ones in Holand !!! ), XP12 is downloading in the home PC.

It was not an easy buy. The purchase refused my Credit Card twice ?  Was this a sign fr

om the Universe that I should keep loyal to MFS only ? I had just pushed the latest update of MFS before I tried purcasing XP12 for the first time 🙂

Well, time will tell what XP12, and MFS, will be in my simmer life, but I sincerely believe they're, for the very 1st time, start a cycle of joy & investment in two concurrent platforms at the very same time !!! And latter today I'll push the latest IL-2 Great Battles update - Normandy - released this week !

I know the three sims have a "place in my simmer hard", and I am grateful to their dev teams for all of the excellent simulation moments they have been providing me, each on it's own.

My plans for XP12, after initial install & confguration, will be to try out the updated version of the Toliss A319, the default aircraft and try the only two payware helicopters I had for XP11 - UH-1H and Bell 412 which I am not sure if are already compatible ?

Then I will try to push a modified AS K21 glider from the .Org and make some tests with the new thermals and the flight model. Some basic maneuvers like forward slips, stalls, lazy eights... will keep me occupied.

I look fwd for testing the new Real World Injected Global Weather !  

I am sure I will Praise XP12 as much as I do MFS and IL-2.

👍

Cheers 🍺!!!!

the Nimbus UH-1 from XP11 is amazing but not sure it works yet in xp12 but yesterday i bought the SA 315B Lama XP12 version and it's 😮spectacular.

 

SA 315B comprehensive features list

•  Support for the entire X-Plane 12 cycle including patches and possible updates
• Quick-start-document in English
• Comprehensive flight manual documents in EN, FR and DE
• Completely redesigned flight model to reflect all XP12 changes
• X-Plane 12 weather effects compatible
• "Safe-state" system which stores all tablet customizations when changing aircraft or exiting the simulator. Restores them when the Lama is reloaded
• Lama's own "Artifical Stabilisation" system, which is of course integrated into the "Safe-State" system. Once thoroughly made, stability settings for the three control axes are stored and restored each time the Lama is reloaded
• Automatic checklist including switchable acoustic speech and also switchable camera guidance to the operated switches for the complete sequence from "Cold and Dark" to "Ready to fly" and back again. Thus, the complete start-up and shut-down process can be marveled at and followed like in a movie theater
• Full simulation of the SX-16 "Nightsun" searchlight including sound, gimbal assembly, focus adjustment, focus dependent light intensity and realistic on/off behavior
• Rescue winch that automatically switches the attachment point for the bottom load rope from the load hook to the winch
• Second selection option for the baskets on the outside of the helicopter
• Possibility to mount a bubble door on the pilot's side
• Ability to unhook both doors independently and fly without doors
• FMOD 2 which, besides minor optimizations, now locally accounts for the opened doors
• Instrument lighting switchable between red and green color
• Vibration animations in the cockpit
• High detail 3D-model and textures by khamsin studio
• PBR textures
• Completely animated rotor head and blade flex
• Including Geforce plugin by Dreamfoil Helicopters (not native APPLE-arm M1/M2 compatible)
• Very accurate flight model (including Autorotation) up to MTOW of 1950 kg
• individual user setup friendly:
  • Uses only default joystick axes (throttle, collective, pitch, roll and yaw)
  • All custom commands access able via default X-Plane menu
• Complete recreation of real power management including:
  • Real startup and shutdown procedures
  • Real centrifugal clutch management
  • Real turbine RPM-limiter
  • Real safety microswitches
  • Real usability of Collins-Pitch-Indicator
• Hide able 3D-tablet including:
  • Custom weight-and-balance menu
  • Attach or detach external parts
  • Toggle able glass reflections
  • Toggle able custom downwash effect
  • Toggle able cockpit vibrations
  • Ability to choose out of four strobe light variants for addon liveries
  • Avitab integration
  • Toggle able power management helper bug
  • Let the groundcrew turn one blade up front for you
• Four different strobe light effects for different liveries
• Livery depending IAS gauge in km/h or KTS
• Working slungload scale
• VR compatible
• Very FPS friendly

 

 

Ah !  Great Beerz !!!!

I can still remember the LAMA flying under the colours of Portuguese Air Force, as well as it's bigger brother - the Alouette 🙂

A sure buy for me !!!

Meanwhile - my initial report:

- PERFORMANCE: with pretty most everything maxed out, impecable performance in my Ryzen 5600x and RTX 3060Ti !  - THANK YOU Alec for the rig you carefully helped me building last year for MFS !  It now serves 3 amazing sims - XP12, IL2, MFS !

Tests were made with only default aircraft, mostly the C172, the Vans RV-10, the Cub, the A330, and the K21, with and without dense weather found through BadBadWeather.

- SCENERY: More than enough for my use of XP, whch is mostly procedural, although MFS will most probably always be my sim of choice when soaring tasks are my objective and specially after the upcoming Soaring. MFS excels in terms of scenery realism ! but XP12 is more than acceptable, and I might try Orthos, although I really don't think I'll go down that route...

- FLIGHT: I liked each aircraft I tried, the 330 being the one that felt more "strange", and I did miss proper Airbus systems, namely A/T, FMGC, etc... The handling wasn't bad though, I believe ( ? )

I did manage to spin the default C172, something I am not able to do with the default C172 in MFS. 

- WEATHER: The tests I made from airfields chosen based on the reported bad weather METARs were very convincing, surely not inferior to what I get from MFS. Cloud rendering is different, but feels ok the way it is, and I believe it'll be fine tuned later, if not by LR by tallented 3pds like the author of the Enhanced SkyScapes.

BTW: There used to be a screen output option that exhibited the kollsman window settings on the aircraft altimeter. Now I can only display METAR data e weather variables at the present aircraft position. I miss being able to see in that screen output what is being set o the altimeter because it is sometimes very difficult to read it there 😕

- ATC, Traffic and AI:  Didn't test it yet...

Now downloading IL-2 Normandy update - 3 yrs waiting for it !!! 🙂

Edited September 10, 20223 yr by jcomm

4 hours ago, jcomm said:

XP12 is downloading !  At last !

I've been all of the posts at the AVSIM forums, about XP12, XP12 vs MFS, MFS vs XP12, ...

Being away from the home PC is at the same time good to avoid he stress if installing and testing a "new" simulator, and stressing when I keep reading all sorts of messages and trying to make my mid about X-Plane 12.

I confess I never ost hope in LR, starting with Austin, a person I have to have in very high / good consideration becuase as much as he sometimes can look a bit full of himself, that characteristic is probably what brought us X-Plane, after he started it as a personal Project and decided to make it publicly available.

As I write this message at the loal coffee shop ( 🤪, no, not like the ones in Holand !!! ), XP12 is downloading in the home PC.

It was not an easy buy. The purchase refused my Credit Card twice ?  Was this a sign fr

om the Universe that I should keep loyal to MFS only ? I had just pushed the latest update of MFS before I tried purcasing XP12 for the first time 🙂

Well, time will tell what XP12, and MFS, will be in my simmer life, but I sincerely believe they're, for the very 1st time, start a cycle of joy & investment in two concurrent platforms at the very same time !!! And latter today I'll push the latest IL-2 Great Battles update - Normandy - released this week !

I know the three sims have a "place in my simmer hard", and I am grateful to their dev teams for all of the excellent simulation moments they have been providing me, each on it's own.

My plans for XP12, after initial install & confguration, will be to try out the updated version of the Toliss A319, the default aircraft and try the only two payware helicopters I had for XP11 - UH-1H and Bell 412 which I am not sure if are already compatible ?

Then I will try to push a modified AS K21 glider from the .Org and make some tests with the new thermals and the flight model. Some basic maneuvers like forward slips, stalls, lazy eights... will keep me occupied.

I look fwd for testing the new Real World Injected Global Weather !  

I am sure I will Praise XP12 as much as I do MFS and IL-2.

👍

Cheers 🍺!!!!

😂😂

Best regards, my friend! 😉👍

6 hours ago, Humpty said:

and Uninstalling ..............

🤣

You're very wrong !

Actually, will buy my first heli for XP12 real soon !  The Lama.

 

Edited September 10, 20223 yr by jcomm

1 hour ago, Lonepilot said:

😂😂

Best regards, my friend! 😉👍

Grande Pedro ! 👍👍👍

P.S.: Didn't yet get the chance to check LPSC 🙂

BTW, the AeCTV Gbrob 103 is now with us at LPMN !  Come fly one of theses weekends !!!!

 

Edited September 10, 20223 yr by jcomm

17 minutes ago, jcomm said:

🤣

You're very wrong !

Actually, will by my first heli for XP12 real soon !  The Lama.

 

I am already counting the days XP12 stays on your disk hAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

But I have this issue in XP12 , I get a vulkan device loss error and there is no way to report it , the display will lose the signal and I have to hard reboot blody

44 minutes ago, jcomm said:

🤣

You're very wrong !

Actually, will by my first heli for XP12 real soon !  The Lama.

 

José, nice to see you aboard the XP12 ship my friend. Looking forward to your review after flying the glider! Take care!

47 minutes ago, evaamo said:

José, nice to see you aboard the XP12 ship my friend. Looking forward to your review after flying the glider! Take care!

Yes Enrique !

Would bem great to get the PSX plugin running too 😁

4 minutes ago, jcomm said:

Yes Enrique !

Would bem great to get the PSX plugin running too 😁

Last year I began to program a new plugin to support the XP11 744 with all the light options working etc... with 12 now out, I'll have to wait if there are changes in the SDK... so many things to do and so little time!

This were my first two requests regarding XP12. Sen't it to Austin this morning. I will report back any additional information I receive from him:

XP12. request.1) I am  very happy with the new Moon and correct phases !!! Thank You so much Austin !  I have actually tricked XP12 (as per Murmur's suggestion... ) to think the date was somewhere in 2023, and the Moon was at the right spot and in the right phase !

But there is still no way to define, in the Flight Configuration menu, a full date in the form : YYYY-MM-DD. We can just set day and month, although internally now X-Plane correctly makes the necessary calculations. 

I know the reason is probably because then someone might ask that the weather, if set to Real Weather, would have to be historically correct to, but that's not simulated by default in any other platform, although in XP11 and FSX / P3d Active Sky allowed for it, anyway it would be great to have that possibility, specially now that X-Plane correctly computes "Sky Objects".

Could you plan to introduce the full date setting in the Flight menu ?

 

XP12.request.2) Austin, in the Data Output options there used to be, in XP11, a line of data that showed the actual altimeter setting that was dialed in the Kollsman window. Now we have a line for local METAR data and another line where some of the weather variables that are effective at the present aircraft location are shown, but there is no way to read the altimeter setting. 

For a guy like me with aggravating close vision problems, reading the altimeter setting was a LOT easier through that output line on aircraft with conventional, clockwork-type instruments. I miss that info, that you might add to the line with the actual meteo variables at present aircraft position ? Or maybe a separate Data Output line with the settings of all of the altimeters installed in the aircraft like in an airliner where there could be up to 4 altimeters, including the standby instruments, and these could even not be in sync ?

14 hours ago, jcomm said:

This were my first two requests regarding XP12. Sen't it to Austin this morning. I will report back any additional information I receive from him:

Two things I would like to see:

1) Localized haze/fog, or at least a generic fog/haze layer when there's low visibility; in XP12 the visibility goes back to max when above the first cloud layer, so if there's a broken cloud layer, the ground is perfectly visible in cloud gaps, even if the visibility on the ground is very low;

2) Now that XP has an excellent photometric rendering engine, it would be nice to model moon lighting for global illumination. As it is now, in XP12 a full moon or a new moon do not show any difference in lighting levels; moon lighting is already simulated in FlightGear, for instance.