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I had a crash of fsx a few weeks ago which caused me to have to reinstall from the bottom up due to a corrupted activation error I got upon startup. After many days I thought I had all in working order. I bought fs2crew for the level d 767-upon installing I was not presented with the "trusted" prompts-and after installation could not get it to work-despite the fact my fsx.cfg file was filled with "trusted" entries for fs2crew. I then started to load other aircraft and found:Level D 767, Aopa piper cherokee, real air marchetti-work fine(the level d and Aopa piper have entries in the "trusted" part of fsx.cfg-the Real Air does not.The Eaglesoft sf22, Fsd seneca, Dreamfleet atr, and fs2crew don't display any gauges (and some have missing virtual cockpit features).I have tried reinstalling these non working products- never get the "trusted" prompt upon initial load-and can't get them to work.There seem to be no "trusted" entries for the non working aircraft above in the fsx.cfg file (but there are for fs2crew which still remains non working despite this). I hope this isn't an ugly bug in Vista Ultimate showing its' head. I have uac turned off and dep turned off.The problem seems to be that the "trusted" service is not running when installing these add ins-and thus the gauges are not allowed to work.Thanks for any help......http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpgForum Moderatorhttp://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

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Manually edit fsx.cfg file (while sim is unloaded, of course), and remove the entire "Trusted" section...Start FSX and you will find that all products that have "signed gauges," such as those in the SR20/22 models should now load and display properly.As you load a/c for the first time that do NOT have "signed gauges" you will be asked to manually approve or disapprove of each unsigned gauge.In fact, "unsigned gauges" will present two dialogs; one for approval (Yes/No) and another for Run (R/D).Hint: if you intend to "approve" and "run" all of the gauges, you can speed up the process by keeping your fingers on the R & Y keys... then it's simply a matter of pressing R Y R Y R Y R Y as many times as needed to "approve" all the gauges... ;)

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I already tried that-the problem is that I don't get the "trusted" dialogs at all-the aircraft's just load minus the gauges.It does seem to work for the modules, as they load up fine.In fscrew's case-the language is there under trusted-but the gauges still don't load.I wonder if I manually put the language in under trusted if that would work-though it would not help me with new installs.http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpgForum Moderatorhttp://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

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I had the same problem (compounded with an 'initialization error' in the Avidyne) and just figured it out by reinstalling the Cirrus from the original Flight1 wrapper (instead of directly from the unzipped .exe file you get after running the wrapper). This seemed to add the proper licenses and the cockpit initialized correctly (after loading the 2D cockpit first). For the record, with the Cirrus I never got the 'trusted' dialogs either (other Eaglesoft planes gave the dialog), so maybe it's just a quirk with this specific installer.

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No, that's working as designed. If you check out Eaglesoft's "news" page, you'll see that they have gotten "official" signed status (or something like that, Bill can explain it better) so that after the first time you say you trust their gauges you don't have to say it anymore for any other Eaglesoft gauges.Thomas[a href=http://www.flyingscool.com] http://www.flyingscool.com/images/Signature.jpg [/a]I like using VC's :-)N15802 KASH '73 Piper Cherokee Challenger 180

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Be sure you are not loading one of the 'lite' Cirruses with no VC. Even then, load up the 2D cockpit view first (or switch right to it), wait a few secs, and then switch to the virtual: at least this is how I make mine appear (this hint is from the Eaglesoft support site).

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Geofa, your issue seems to be installation related rather than "Code Signed/Trusted Developer Status" related.Code signed "trusted status" gauges are simply the same gauges used previously with the Code Signing added. Code Signing is new in FSX and is for users/FSX/MS security and has nothing to do with Eaglesoft Code other than we paid good money and do the extra work required for "Code Signing/Trusted Developer" status:-)Hope this helps.

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I know it has nothing to do with the Eaglesoft code-as I mentioned above there are 4-5 add ins that seem to be affected, and any new add ins at this point that I try to install. I am trying to figure out what the problem is though! I don't know diddly about "trusted", code signed etc. are. I just know my sim is not working....and I did nothing to deserve this :-)I am trying the Microsoft resetsldl command now-I used it to correct the activation error that caused me to have to reinstall fsx a few weeks ago only because the sim crashed on me once, and I notice there is a switch that resets the "trusted". I am hoping something works...I also notice Vista just issued a service pack that is supposed to "help" activation issues-trouble is I keep getting an error on that when it tries to install.http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpgForum Moderatorhttp://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

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Ah, good old Vista and installation/activation issues...sounds like you've got a handful there:-(

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I'm going to try reinstalling the sim...again (7th time now) and see if that helps.Which leads me to an idea for a third party developer...How about a program that tracks all your add ins (I have about 24 now) and automatically reinstalls all of them with their various activation schemes, passwords, 4 digit credit card numbers etc. every time the sim needs to be reinstalled!http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpgForum Moderatorhttp://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

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>I'm going to try reinstalling the sim...again (7th time now)>and see if that helps.>I hope it's not a Vista thing. Unfortunately I am not that familiar with Vista.Sounds like you are in it heavy. If you are completely at a loss, a clean install can help, followed by careful 1-at-a-time installs and testing of 3rd-party apps/software. But I know you know that already Geof.I would be very cautious about messing with Windows Trusted Store. I have destroyed XP installs that way. The Activation code in FSX seems particularly finicky...much more so than the OS it seems.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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Not what you want to do, but if I were in your situation.... I'd format...

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. . and so you need to re-activate FSX. This is the indicator that it has lost it's activation.

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I reinstalled FSX last week and it asked me to reactivate. I can only think that when you uninstalled some registry item remained and so maybe your new installation still carries your old activation code. What I did after uninstall, I ran searches with 'regedit' for anything from 'flight simulator' to 'fsx' and manually removed the host of leftover entries. Only after that I reinstalled, and it was like the first time.

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Lets go back up the post list to where you posted the following >>I am trying the Microsoft resetsldl command >now-I used it to correct the activation error >that caused me to have to reinstall fsx a few >weeks ago only because the sim crashed on me >once, and I notice there is a switch that resets>the "trusted". I am hoping something works...>I also out of the clear blue sky had a BSOD (Vista Home Premium) with FSX not running. It destroyed my registry entry's for FSX activation, FS9 and AFCAD that looks at the FS9 registry entry.In order to get FSX to reintall I also had to run the error 1722 patch file (resetsldl.exe) to clear the trusted store.Since then I have not been able to install anything that needs a entry added to the FSX.cfg trusted menu section. What is fustrating is this also includes the SP1a SDK update for adding the dropdown menu for the Traffictoolbox.A Format of C:drive will surely correct the issue but if another BOD occurs then a current BU of the registry may be the only answer.

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Geofa,As I mentioned in another thread, I also got the activation problem some time ago. When trying to run a repair of FSX, the installer had problems reading some file on the first DVD. I tried to uninstall FSX, but the installer failed. So I gave up, temporarily, on FSX and reinstalled FS2004.The other day I manually removed the traces of the FSX installer on my disk and in the Registry. Wow - what a task. I examined the folders in the WindowsInstaller folder (a hidden folder) and found a folder with a exe file (ARPPRODUCTICON.exe) with a FSX icon. I traced the folder name (some obscure number) in the Registry and removed all references to it. After a couple of hours work I finally managed to run a FSX install from my DVDs without any errors. I then installed SP1. But when I ran FSX I had no autogen. I tried a repair install, but this didn't help. I then uninstalled FSX and manually removed FSX folder left on the disk. I then installed FSX and SP1 once more, and this time everything seems allright with FSX. I now have reinstalled all FSX addons.All this trouble has cost me about four full days of work. And I'm suspecting that the MS installer structure and logig has become to smart. Yesterday a security patch for .NET Framework 2 failed to install when I ran Windows Update. After a couple of attempts to install the patch, I tried a repair install of Framework 2. Seemed to work, but the patch still failed to install. I then tried to uninstall Framework 2, but this failed. The installer refused to uninstall. So now I seem to be stuck with this problem and need to spend some day to manually remove .NET Framework 2 to be able to perform a reinstall. This is not good. I would be happy if somebody could give me a tip where to find a good .NET Framework Cleaner. And it seems that there is a market for a FSX Cleaner Utility as well. I would easily pay 30 bucks for a generic MS Installer Cleaner Utility like that, considering how much time I have to spend on those silly things. The fastest thing to do nowadays, when you run into trouble, is to reformat your harddisk. Pretty absurd, isn't it?Ulf BPS Before investing in Vista/DX10 I would like to have some utility on the market that makes it easy for me to configure Vista to a none fancy state with standard Windows GUI and only the essential services activated. I'd pay another 30 bucks for that wizzard.

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Considering I have been spending 3 weeks on this thing it does seem like a reformat will be easier-though terribly painfull.I do have a concern though that this will be a regular event for the future.I agree this is absurd. Makes me want to almost reistall dos and go back to fs4!http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpgForum Moderatorhttp://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

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That's the price to pay for smart installers and copy protection.Ulf B

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If you haven't already, you might want to check on some of the win sites, as maybe some of them can shed additional light on the best way to handle the problem.If that doesn't bear any fruit, then the format may be the simplest, most straightforward solution. And I do not say that lightly. I don't like saying that, but since it is my opinion that the activation and trusted store scheme is not robust, and since it seems to be so tightly hooked into the OS and its functioning, there seems no other feasible alternative in my mind.I have Acronis TrueImage, which, theoretically (I have not tested), would allow me to restore from a disk image, should my FSX start misbehaving. I did an image of an FSX+SP1 clean install. Before any mods. RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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