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Hey folks. I have CH Pro rudder pedals. They have never given me trouble in the past. Suddenly, I hit the throttle on a Cessna 172 and start to use the pedals to steer the plane. The pedals start to work but after a few seconds the plane just veers off the runway to the left and I don't seem to have control with the pedals anymore. However, after may be 3-5 seconds, suddenly they are working again. Of course, by that time I am off in the grass against a fence :-).

I have unhooked the cable and hooked it to a different USB port but that hasn't helped. It is not a fluke; it has done it now 5 times in a row.

I could accept the possibility that the pedals are failing but the symptom seems so consistent that it doesn't make me feel like its just a random hardware failure of the pedals.

Advice? Thanks.


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Any flight assistant activated that could cause that?


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Just now, teletom said:

Any flight assistant activated that could cause that?

I just looked at the assistant settings and the rudder options are not set to ON.


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Check the rudder axis in control options what it's set to ... 


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You could test the rudders in Windows with the USB game controller thingy. Some time ago I used a tool to monitor USB devices for weird inputs, not sure but think it was something like VKB joystick tester


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Strange but it appears that due to the position of the rudder pedals under my desk (same place they've always been), I am pressing on a brake pedal while trying to steer the plane. I have never had this problem before. Is it possible that the sensitivity of the brake pedal setting is more than it used to be?

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Try to steer with your heels and leave the toes off of the pedal. That way you can't be touching the brakes. (I once took apart a CH Pro pedals and then could not fit all the pieces back in again, so I would be reluctant myself to take CH Pro pedals apart and look inside). 


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22 hours ago, Rob G said:

Hey folks. I have CH Pro rudder pedals. They have never given me trouble in the past. Suddenly, I hit the throttle on a Cessna 172 and start to use the pedals to steer the plane. The pedals start to work but after a few seconds the plane just veers off the runway to the left and I don't seem to have control with the pedals anymore. However, after may be 3-5 seconds, suddenly they are working again. Of course, by that time I am off in the grass against a fence :-).

I have unhooked the cable and hooked it to a different USB port but that hasn't helped. It is not a fluke; it has done it now 5 times in a row.

I could accept the possibility that the pedals are failing but the symptom seems so consistent that it doesn't make me feel like its just a random hardware failure of the pedals.

Advice? Thanks.

You are not alone. I experienced the same issues a few days ago. Never had any issues for years…

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Maybe some Windows update altered your Energy settings in Windows and made the USB devices going to a sleep mode?

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Given that your pedals are on the floor, under the desk, (unless of course you've found a way of using them on the desk), I wouldn't mind betting they're chock full of dust, dead insects and the remains of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.


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2 hours ago, Ron Attwood said:

I wouldn't mind betting they're chock full of dust, dead insects and the remains of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

How could you tell from his post that he lives in a college dormitory? 🙂


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3 hours ago, MDFlier said:

How could you tell from his post that he lives in a college dormitory? 🙂

Was it just me then?

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On 12/6/2022 at 9:20 AM, Fielder said:

 (I once took apart a CH Pro pedals and then could not fit all the pieces back in again, so I would be reluctant myself to take CH Pro pedals apart and look inside). 

yeah ... they tend to explode and reassembly involves blindly lining up various parts sight unseen when you but the lid back on. 😄

 

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Oddly enough, the CH ProPedals still work fine despite the two parts I could not figure out how to put back in. I use it for living room Xbox MSFS. I use the Russian VKB pedals for the PC. 


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