January 10, 20233 yr I've noticed that on almost every landing when idle the thrust on landing (generally around the retard callout give or take), I hear the ding of the A/T going off. I never had this happen before or i have never heard it on a real A320 landing video. What am I doing to cause that to happen? Or is it normal and I just never noticed it somehow? Intel Core i7 12700K (5.0GHz Max Boost Clock) 12-Core CPU 32GB G.Skill Performance DDR4 SDRAM 3600MHz Graphics Processor:12GB Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, GDDR6x System 2TB Western Digital, NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
January 10, 20233 yr 2 minutes ago, Zimmerbz said: I've noticed that on almost every landing when idle the thrust on landing (generally around the retard callout give or take), I hear the ding of the A/T going off. I never had this happen before or i have never heard it on a real A320 landing video. What am I doing to cause that to happen? Or is it normal and I just never noticed it somehow? No that's not normal. Seems like the airplane doesn't know it's landing and therefore thinks returning the thrust to idle is worth a master caution. But no idea why this is happening. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
January 10, 20233 yr Author 2 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said: No that's not normal. Seems like the airplane doesn't know it's landing and therefore thinks returning the thrust to idle is worth a master caution. But no idea why this is happening. Yeah, that is weird. I am stable, approach armed, fully configured for landing. Intel Core i7 12700K (5.0GHz Max Boost Clock) 12-Core CPU 32GB G.Skill Performance DDR4 SDRAM 3600MHz Graphics Processor:12GB Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, GDDR6x System 2TB Western Digital, NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
January 10, 20233 yr Commercial Member The master caution might ding off if you're idling the thrust levers too slowly. Aamir Thacker
January 10, 20233 yr Author 6 minutes ago, Aamir said: The master caution might ding off if you're idling the thrust levers too slowly. I bet that is it... I have been trying to do it a little more gradual so I'll try to do it quicker and see if that helps. Intel Core i7 12700K (5.0GHz Max Boost Clock) 12-Core CPU 32GB G.Skill Performance DDR4 SDRAM 3600MHz Graphics Processor:12GB Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, GDDR6x System 2TB Western Digital, NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
January 10, 20233 yr 5 minutes ago, Zimmerbz said: I bet that is it... I have been trying to do it a little more gradual so I'll try to do it quicker and see if that helps. Common technique is reducing it to idle without hesitation before touchdown (not literally pulling it apart, but not at all like in the 737 when you are supposed to only reach idle on touchdown). For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
January 10, 20233 yr Commercial Member The FWC (flight warning computer) is looking for this, so if you don't do it in time, it will flag it and set off the "ding" to let you know "hey, this isn't in a detent and you've not hit the instinctive disconnect, you know about it?", the timings and FWC logic is simulated. So, feel free to just slap it right into idle, the engines have a reasonably realistic spooldown rate, so you won't end up with 0 thrust instantly. Edited January 10, 20233 yr by Aamir Aamir Thacker
January 10, 20233 yr I always reduced to idle at 30ft and did so quickly but smoothly. There was a video by Easysimjetpilot (a RW A320 pilot) that suggested to reduce throttles more slowly and I started trying this technique. I didn't really help much, although I have never heard the ding. I wonder if that is why more pilots are doing things this way? Mark CYYZ
January 10, 20233 yr 1 hour ago, MarkW said: I always reduced to idle at 30ft and did so quickly but smoothly. There was a video by Easysimjetpilot (a RW A320 pilot) that suggested to reduce throttles more slowly and I started trying this technique. I didn't really help much, although I have never heard the ding. I wonder if that is why more pilots are doing things this way? I guess "slowly" is relative, anyway it should be on idle before touchdown. I don't know any real life pilot who lands the A320 with throttles still above idle, while some actually do so on the 737. Anyway MSFS' ground effect is a bit too strong so I'd not recommend taking too much time with the throttles, or you'll be floating down the runway. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
January 10, 20233 yr 2 hours ago, Aamir said: The FWC (flight warning computer) is looking for this, so if you don't do it in time, it will flag it and set off the "ding" to let you know "hey, this isn't in a detent and you've not hit the instinctive disconnect, you know about it?", the timings and FWC logic is simulated. So, feel free to just slap it right into idle, the engines have a reasonably realistic spooldown rate, so you won't end up with 0 thrust instantly. Guilty of this ... Worried that i will be left without thrust and drop like a rock the final 5 to 10 feet ( been flying the 737 too much) AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2 Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders
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