I am wondering why if you are coming from the west or north you have to do the long loop to get to JFK RW 22L/ R.

Yesterday I flew (passenger) from San Diego to KJFK.  We approached JFK at 15,000 ft from the northwest, continued down the Jersey shore for 20 miles. headed east over the Atlantic, turned north over the Nassau County/Suffolk County border (south shore of Long Island.  Flew 15 miles north to the north shore of Long Island, turned left and proceeded to ROSLY (which is in Roslyn Long Island) where we finally intercepted the 22L approach.  That loop to 38 minutes!!

I know we have traffic from KTEB,KLGA KEWR and Westchester, but can't ATC create a slot/corridor for north and east arrivals to intercept Rosly drect from the north at 2000 ft and save each plane a 1/2 hour ride.  I know ATC uses the water off NJ/LI to gather the planes in a file and send them on a loop, but maybe use 22R for north/ and west arrivals and 22R for south and east arrivals??

Any clue what this is??

I don’t know the reason why, probably just the way the airspace and arrival is structured.

I normally come in along Long Island on the Parch 3 arrival for 22. 
 

I’ve done that northerly arrival a few times and it’s very scenic depending down over the city and out to see but it’s not great on fuel burn, I had it on the jumbo once doing about  40 miles at 3000ft over the ocean with the flaps out to do 210kts and you don’t know exactly how many track miles you have left either.

1 hour ago, paulyg123 said:

I know we have traffic from KTEB,KLGA KEWR and Westchester, but can't ATC create a slot/corridor for north and east arrivals to intercept Rosly drect from the north at 2000 ft and save each plane a 1/2 hour ride.

I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in, but my guess is that it's designed to keep you above and out of the way of LGA traffic. If you were landing on 22L, then it's likely LGA was landing on 22, and perhaps taking off too, depending on the winds and traffic.

Cheers!

1 hour ago, Luke said:

I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in, but my guess is that it's designed to keep you above and out of the way of LGA traffic. If you were landing on 22L, then it's likely LGA was landing on 22, and perhaps taking off too, depending on the winds and traffic.

Cheers!

That's the answer.  The JFK and LGA traffic are inherently intertwined.  

The N90 airspace (JFK, EWR, LGA, TEB, MMU, CDW, HPN, etc.) airspace is one of the most complex and congested, if not the most, in the world. Add to that PHL to the south and BOS/BDL to the north.  Some advantages of PBN SIDs and STARs have been gained, but not the extent that we have seen in other US metroplex airports.  

Rich Boll

 

I landed on 22L twice in August, coming from SCEL and KIAH, and both times we did a big loop NE of JFK. I'm sure this loop is for allowing all NY departing traffic to go through without any big issues.